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HRUSOVSZKY                        Number: 503
  To: MARTIN BELCKE                            Date: 04/21/94 11:21p
Subj: Re: Hello                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


 MB> Well, 5 are setup vertically and 6 are setup horizontally with
 MB> a cable connecting all of them together.
 MB> We use Lantastic 4.01 with AE-2 Ethernet cards.  The main
 MB> servers are dedicated servers and the rest of the machines are
 MB> work stations and/or work station/servers.

Martin, do you get much faster speed (throughput) on a dedicated server
as compared to server/workstations?

--jah

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From: JIMMY BONDS                            Number: 504
  To: ED FORTIN                                Date: 04/21/94  4:17p
Subj: Test                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RE: Test
BY: Ed Fortin to Boyd Goodin on Tue Apr 19 1994 22:59:00

 > Just checking to see if the messages are getting through....how'bout a
Made it to Alabama, so it must work <G>..

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From: GEORGE VANDERVORT                      Number: 505
  To: MARTIN BELCKE                            Date: 04/21/94  3:32p
Subj: echolist files                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello MARTIN!

Wednesday April 20 1994 22:12, MARTIN BELCKE wrote to CHARLES RING:

 MB>
 ->> The April el*.lzh came through yesterday, all of them 16k corrupt fil
 ->> they go over the sat that way, or is there a problem here?
 MB>
 MB> Corrupted here, too.
 MB>
 MB> --Martin--

All the April EL*.LZH must have been Corrupt, because They got Bit-Bucketed,
before my TIC processor ever saw them..?

Regards,
George Vandervort
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From: GARY CRAIN                             Number: 506
  To: GEORGE VANDERVORT                        Date: 04/21/94  1:13p
Subj: echolist files                          Refer: NONE
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On Apr 20, 1994, at 20:03, George Vandervort of 1:382/8 wrote:

 GV> As of April 20th.. 20:00 hours CDT
 GV> None of the April EL*.LZH files have come thru over the KU-Band
 GV> Satellite feed.

  i got them here, a few miles north and east of you like this;
_ _ _ O / _ _ C_U_T_ H_E_R_E_ _ _ _
      O \
ELDAT404.LZH   16588    Recv: Mon  04-18-94  13:38:40
ELIST404.LZH   16588    Recv: Mon  04-18-94  13:38:40
ELKEY404.LZH   16588    Recv: Mon  04-18-94  13:38:40
ELRUL404.LZH   16588    Recv: Mon  04-18-94  13:38:40
_ _ _ O / _ _ C_U_T_ H_E_R_E_ _ _ _
      O \

  As you can see, you didn't miss anything since they were all corrupt!

Gary

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From: GEORGE HANNAH                          Number: 507
  To: DON WAYBRIGHT                            Date: 04/21/94  8:48p
Subj: Re: FILE_ID.DIZ                         Refer: NONE
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 -=> Quoting Don Waybright to All <=-

 DW> Does anyone out here have or know of a utility that will scan into and
 DW> archive looking for a File_ID.Diz and if it finds one will use this
 DW> description to replace the one user/tic provided in the Files.BBS?
 DW> If you have such a util could you leave me the name so I can FReq it.

 Allfix has this ability, but only for incoming tics. It can also be
 configured to leave the existing description. Freq AFIX420E.ARJ
 from my origin 24 hrs.

 AMU has the ability to import file_id.diz for uploaded files into
 the RA filebase. You may be able to use it to create files.bbs and
 import the files.bbs into other BBS software. I don't have it
 online, but look for AMU101.*.


... "Let's win this one and go home." - George A. Custer
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From: GEORGE HANNAH                          Number: 508
  To: RANDY EDWARDS                            Date: 04/21/94  8:48p
Subj: Re: Newbie PC questions                 Refer: NONE
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 -=> Quoting Randy Edwards to All <=-

 RE> Turning to utilities, does anyone have a "Tick killer" utility?
 RE> What I'm looking for is for some utility that would automagically
 RE> examine the Tick files in a subdir and would kill off certain specific
 RE> file-echos before I send the files through my null modem to the OS/2
 RE> machine where they'll be processed.  If I can zap the file-echos that
 RE> I don't need that'll speed up my transfers across the null modem
 RE> significantly.  Does such a beast exist?

 How about processing the tics, then sending your outbound directory
 via null modem?



... CHASTITY: The most unnatural of sexual perversions.
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From: JIM WATSON                             Number: 509
  To: ED MARQUIS                               Date: 04/21/94  9:15a
Subj: Services                                Refer: NONE
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Ed Marquis wrote in a message to Jim Watson:

 > Who we feed echomail to is none of the "NEC's" business. Neither
 > would a request for a link cut from the NEC be honored, unless the
 > NEC was the moderator of the echo.

EM> It is your NEC's business if a dupe loop is formed that
EM> affects the backbone. Many times a moderator (or others)

It is NOT the NEC's business, unless that loop is within the feed that the NEC
manages.  Such is not is the case here.

EM> will contact an NEC to investigate a dupe loop that is
EM> plagueing an echo.  The NEC has the right to request your
EM> topology for any backbone echo in order to try to eliminate
EM> the dupe loop even if you pick up your mail from outside of
EM> your net.

An NEC has no "rights" whatsoever within Fidonet, as they are not a "ratified
defined position".  They can ask me, and if they are nice about it, I'll
probably tell them.  But several have already gotten the "Pound Salt" message
when I was -told- "I must cut this person's feed". Seems I was "destroying the
net's CRP".

Sounds personal to me.

EM> Sysops, NEC's, REC's and RHUBS must work together to
EM> eliminate dupe loops. If you were to deny a request for your
EM> topology, chances are your feed would be cut if you were the
EM> source of the problem and would not work with the *EC's to
EM> resolve it.

If there was a legitimate technical problem, you betcha I would do whatever it
takes to cure it.  Currently there is only two types of such:

1) Non-conforming messages, in which case my system will stop them.  And if it
continues, I'll stop feeding them.  This one has -never- happened.

2) A dupe loop.  In which case the node feeding from here needs to cut the link
to me, or cut the one to their other feed.  If they can't seem to handle it,
I'll cut it for 'em.  This one has happened probably a half dozen times in the
last 3 or 4 years.

But the only way -my- uplink would get cut is if I'm causing technical problems
for them.  Being I'm not going to allow such a problem to continue unabated,
I've not got anything to worry about.

EM> I'm sure that P.C. would cut a feed at the request of an REC
EM> or higher. Chances are that the REC would be acting upon the
EM> recommendation of the NEC of a node within their net that is
EM> causing a problem.

For a recurring -technical- reason, yes, I would expect my feed cut. For any
other reason, even bop-a-rootie only provides provisions for the
-moderator- to cut a link.

Seems you've not noticed that the *EC structure is basically worthless these
days.

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From: ELVIS HARGROVE                         Number: 510
  To: ALL                                      Date: 04/22/94  4:43a
Subj: planet connect                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 @ORIGIN :BOO!  Board Of Occult  McAllen Tx.                          N
Well, I sure hope SOMEONE sees this.  Heck I hope *I* see this.  They tell me
if it don't come back as a dupe, I've done something wrong!  (Strange system.
All this time I've been avoiding making dupes.)

^..^
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From: RUSSELL NABER                          Number: 511
  To: MARTIN BELCKE                            Date: 04/22/94  5:48a
Subj: hello                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello MARTIN!

Wednesday April 20 1994, MARTIN BELCKE writes to BOB SLOWINSKI:


 ->> JUST wondering if someone could enlighten me on how they have their
 ->> two networked machines setup.

 MB> Well, 5 are setup vertically and 6 are setup horizontally with a cable
 MB> connecting all of them together.

 MB> We use Lantastic 4.01 with AE-2 Ethernet cards.  The main servers are
 MB> dedicated servers and the rest of the machines are work stations and/or
 MB> work station/servers.  The Planet Connect machine is a dedicated machine
 MB> with a 40meg hard-drive.  One of the other machines pulls the info from
 MB> the PC hard-drive across the network every 2 hours to the work directory
 MB> on one of the main servers.

 MB> What else did you want to know?

 MB> --Martin--

What kind operating systems on each machine?


Russell

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From: KEN KAVANAGH                           Number: 512
  To: KEITH SIPPY                              Date: 04/22/94 10:12a
Subj: sat computer show                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

      On Thursday April 21 1994, Keith Sippy writes to All:

Hello Keith!

 KS> Did anyone see the computer show that was supposed to be on the sat?  I
 KS> unfortunately missed it.  So much for my memory...  (Glad my computers
 KS> memory is better. <g>)  Anyway, I'd like to know how it was.  If it was
 KS> good, I'll try harder to catch it the next time.

I couldnt find it..I had my parents looking for it on their satellite, another
friend looking..never found it..I musta got  the channels confused or
sumthin..g3 8 wasn't it?

Cheers, Ken


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From: DON JOHNSON                            Number: 513
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 04/22/94  4:32a
Subj: Information                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Is there an information packet on what is required, and how one gets a network
on Planet Connect?

I've sent netmail, but no response.

Don Johnson

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From: DAVE POUNDS                            Number: 514
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 04/22/94  1:21p
Subj: Re: Test                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

It got here to biloxi MS

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From: DAVE POUNDS                            Number: 515
  To: JOHN LYON                                Date: 04/22/94  1:23p
Subj: Re: ibmNET                              Refer: NONE
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how do I find more info on the satellite to pc hook up

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From: MARTIN BELCKE                          Number: 516
  To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY                          Date: 04/22/94  3:13p
Subj: Re: Hello                               Refer: NONE
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-> Martin, do you get much faster speed (throughput) on a dedicated serv
-> as compared to server/workstations?

Absolutely.  The dedicated server has no other tasks to perform.  The
server/work-stations are my 2 mailer nodes.  Only reason they are
"servers" is so that the network can access the local drives on those 2
machines.  Before I decided to use the local drives for network usage
(mail packet inbound, etc), they were just work stations.  The 2 main
servers are strickly servers and have no other tasks to perform.

--Martin--

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From: DON WAYBRIGHT                          Number: 517
  To: GEORGE HANNAH                            Date: 04/22/94  6:50p
Subj: Re: FILE_ID.DIZ                         Refer: NONE
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In a message George Hannah to Don Waybright it was said:


 GH>  AMU has the ability to import file_id.diz for uploaded
 GH> files into  the RA filebase. You may be able to use it to
 GH> create files.bbs and  import the files.bbs into other BBS
 GH> software. I don't have it  online, but look for AMU101.*.

Thanks for the help there George.... Will do.


Rds,
-=Don=-

... Richmond's 1st Satellite Connection

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From: SID BALCOM                             Number: 518
  To: ANYONE                                   Date: 04/22/94  9:52a
Subj: PC & DesqView                           Refer: NONE
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        Does PTCCMAIN not run under DesqView? I've tried it on two different
computers and I get lots of errors. When I run it in single user, it works
great. I don't like the idea of having to have a dedicated computer to bring in
the satellite stuff.

        If it WILL run under DesqView, what's the trick to getting error free
reception?

++ Sid ++




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From: JOHN CAMPBELL                          Number: 519
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 04/21/94 11:49p
Subj: Ilink                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Boyd,
   What is the current status of ILINK.... I would like to pick it up,
but interested into what is going to be involved. I have seen some
information that is in the personal directory, but that does not really
give alot of information.
Thanks
John
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From: BRIAN HESS                             Number: 520
  To: CHRIS GUERTIN                            Date: 04/11/94  8:01p
Subj: AD-* File Echoes                        Refer: NONE
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Hello Chris!

Sunday April 10 1994 19:51, Chris Guertin wrote to Brian Hess:

 CG> Check out what Brian Hess wrote on 06 Apr 94  17:47:00:

 BH>> Hello Chris!

 BH>> Sunday April 03 1994 15:27, Chris Guertin wrote to All:

 CG>> What are the AD-* file echoes?

 CG> <etc>

 CG> Thanx for the detailed reply Brian.

I know how disappoint i was for so long.. when i could not find out which area
was what my self... the one area main area i have been disappointed in Planet
Connect has been the lack of orgainze (sp?) information as to what is going
on...

Thank you,
         Brian

... We never know whether we are victors or whether we are defeated.

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From: BRIAN HESS                             Number: 521
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 04/11/94  8:02p
Subj: K-12freeway                             Refer: NONE
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Hello Boyd!

Sunday April 10 1994 23:58, Boyd Goodin wrote to All:


 BG>    To all that responded to this issue I would like to thank you
 BG> all for your support. These areas will always be in with the
 BG> regular mail bundles so that you can still drop them off to this
 BG> system for processing.

THANKS!!!! there VERY popluar here...

Thank you,
         Brian

... If little else, the brain is an educational toy.

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From: KEN KAVANAGH                           Number: 522
  To: DAVE PETRUCCI                            Date: 04/21/94  8:11p
Subj: big files!                              Refer: NONE
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      On Wednesday April 20 1994, Dave Petrucci writes to Boyd Goodin:

Hello Dave!

 >>> Boyd,
 >>> Just curious, what is the CTM0005.ZIP file all about?
 >>> Dave P.

 >> All i know is that it is an OS2 file.

its a service update file for Cset/2 (IBM's OS.2 C & C++ comiler)

Cheers, Ken


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From: KEN KAVANAGH                           Number: 523
  To: LARRY JUKER                              Date: 04/21/94  8:13p
Subj: ibmNET                                  Refer: NONE
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      On Tuesday April 19 1994, Larry Juker writes to All:

Hello Larry!

 LJ> Anyone know if ibmNET is on the satelite?

just the file areas..You must be an ibmNET node to receive the message areas.

Cheers, Ken


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From: CHARLES RING                           Number: 524
  To: GEORGE VANDERVORT                        Date: 04/22/94  5:40p
Subj: echolist files                          Refer: NONE
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Hello George!

20 Apr 94 20:03, George Vandervort wrote to Charles Ring:


 GV> As of April 20th.. 20:00 hours CDT
 GV> None of the April EL*.LZH files have come thru over the KU-Band Satellite
 GV> feed.

Yesterday morning i received little but small files, all the larger ones trahed
by errors. I found that my 3' KU dish needed to be re-aimed. Strange, since
nothing on it was loose. It was off enough to make a big difference.


Charles

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From: KIM BERGMAN                            Number: 525
  To: ALL                                      Date: 04/23/94 12:17p
Subj: Link test                               Refer: NONE
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Hello All,


Just testing my link.  Please respond if you get this.


Kim

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From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY                        Number: 526
  To: MARTIN BELCKE                            Date: 04/23/94  4:29p
Subj: Re: Hello                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->> Martin, do you get much faster speed (throughput) on a dedicated
->> server as compared to server/workstations?

 MB> Absolutely.  The dedicated server has no other tasks to
 MB> perform.  The server/work-stations are my 2 mailer nodes.  Only
 MB> reason they are "servers" is so that the network can access the
 MB> local drives on those 2
 MB> machines.  Before I decided to use the local drives for network
 MB> usage (mail packet inbound, etc), they were just work stations.
 MB>  The 2 main servers are strickly servers and have no other
 MB>  tasks to perform.

OK...please allow me to pick your brain a little more <G>

I'm running 3 nodes right now, and would like to speed things up
_WITHOUT_ switching BBS Software.  I have a 386DX/40 as a
Server/Workstation.  It has 2 Hard Drives in it...a 1 GIG drive
partitioned equally to drives C, D, and E, and a 660 Megger partitioned
equally to drives F, G, H, I, J, and K.  This machine has 8 megs of ram,
and is my MAIN machine, the BBS software residing on the C-Drive.  I am
running under DOS 5 and Lantastic/AI v4.1 with 10Mbps Ethernet Cards.
This machine is ALSO Node 1.  Node 2 and 3 are on 386DX/40s that ONLY
have 1 meg of ram and 1 single 3.5" floppy for BootUp ... No hard drive.
They use Drive C on machine 1 for their BBS operations. These are
workstations only.
Then, my Planet Connect machine is a 386DX/40 and utilizes its own
180Meg Hard Drive, and is networked as Drive Y.  It is a
Server/Workstation.
Currently, my mail is copied to DRIVE C (from DRIVE Y) and
processed/tossed there (on Drive C).  I now am thinking about how to do
the Tossing on Drive Y for all my downlinks, and THEN copying MY mail to
drive C for tossing into My Message bases, as it makes sense that that
alone would speed this thing up quite a bit.
But, in your opinion, how would you speed this system up without
spending $50K?  Seriously, I've considered a 486DX/2-66 for a dedicated
file server, but don't see that it would enhance the speed that much, as
all BBS operations are being done on _ONE_ single hard drive, and I fear
that is the problem in system slowdown at times.

Thanks very much in advance.

--jah

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From: MARTIN BELCKE                          Number: 527
  To: RUSSELL NABER                            Date: 04/23/94  3:01p
Subj: hello                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->  MB> What else did you want to know?
->
-> What kind operating systems on each machine?

MS-DOS 5.0 on all systems.  Also, QEMM 6.x on all systems.  I will not
run Qemm 7.x because of the forced stealth - a real nightmare.

--Martin--

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From: BILL WOLF                              Number: 528
  To: KEITH SIPPY                              Date: 04/22/94  7:32p
Subj: sat computer show                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Did anyone see the computer show that was supposed to
 > be on the sat?  I unfortunately missed it.  So much
 > for my memory...  (Glad my computers memory is better.
 > <g>)  Anyway, I'd like to know how it was.  If it was good, I'll try harder
 > to catch it the next time.

Yeah, I heard it was real good, however I missed it as well. As luck would have
it, my power supply went out on my data receiver, and while I was tuning the
dish for a stronger signal, I strayed off the PC Satellite, and ended up on
another one.  :-)  Waiting for my copy of the show to arrive in the mail.

But from what John said on the phone at the night of the show, some real good
features are coming out for the PC software, as well as new services.

TakeCare,
Bill

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From: GILL BLUE                              Number: 529
  To: KEITH SIPPY                              Date: 04/23/94  7:01a
Subj: sat computer show                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Keith
 I caught the show. It was very good. I am looking forward to the next
one watch for info as to time and dates for the next one

                                                      Gill


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From: GILL BLUE                              Number: 530
  To: JIMMY BONDS                              Date: 04/23/94  7:02a
Subj: Test                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Jimmy
 I see you loud and clear here in Opp, Alabama. What part of Alabama are
you in ??  Gill


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From: WALLACE SHELDON                        Number: 531
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 04/23/94  5:57p
Subj: Re: big files!                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

BG> There were a few Big files that went over the sat Sunday. If you
BG> never got them then I have them here for file request. The
BG> CTM0005.ZIP file is not going over the sat since it is over 2 megs
BG> and you can get it from here.

CG> Hmmm.  It costs to call long distance to get it.  Why is it not being
CG> sent out over the sat?

 JH> I would like to see it sent over sat again also.

Joe,  it appears that it was never sent, because of it's size.  To call long
distance to get it could cost as much or more than one months subscription.  I
agree, it should be sent over the sat.

        Wally


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From: EDDIE MONEY                            Number: 532
  To: SID BALCOM                               Date: 04/23/94  2:06p
Subj: PC & DesqView                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Sid!

Friday April 22 1994 09:52, Sid Balcom wrote to Anyone:

 SB>         Does PTCCMAIN not run under DesqView? I've tried it on two
 SB> different computers and I get lots of errors. When I run it in single
 SB> user, it works great. I don't like the idea of having to have a dedicated
 SB> computer to bring in the satellite stuff.

The program itself is a cpu HOG. It wants all the processor to itself.
Wish they would get a new program that is not the hog that this one is. I have
a 386 dx40 that recieves the sat stuff and that is all it can do.


 SB>         If it WILL run under DesqView, what's the trick to getting error
 SB> free reception?

I think a 486 dx33 or better is best.


Eddie

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From: ELDON WAKEFIELD                        Number: 533
  To: DON WAYBRIGHT                            Date: 04/23/94  3:07p
Subj: RE: FILE_ID.DIZ                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Don we use a program called MTA_35 you will find it on most of the CD-Roms it
will unzip or unarc the file, also Scan for virus strip out bbs ads if you
want. and will rezip the file and also use the FileIDZ and make a files.bbs or
dir a real noce program Eldon

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From: JEFF CUTLER                            Number: 534
  To: ALL                                      Date: 04/23/94 10:59a
Subj: netmail                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

    Does planet connect offer the routing of Netmail through them.  Now that I
am getting a feed from PC I am not a part of the NEC's CRP which means he does
not have to route outbound netmail for me.  Can I do the outbound through PC?

        'Clean, Clear, and Naked'
        Jeff

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From: JEFF WARD                              Number: 535
  To: KEN KAVANAGH                             Date: 04/23/94 12:51p
Subj: sat computer show                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I couldnt find it..I had my parents looking for it on their
 > satellite, another
 > friend looking..never found it..I musta got  the channels
 > confused or sumthin..g3 8 wasn't it?

 Well, I had it on G3-8. I even made a video tape of it. Maybe yuou had the
wrong time or something? It came on at 9:00pm on April 20. Looked fine from
here. Later!

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From: JOHN LYON                              Number: 536
  To: DAVE POUNDS                              Date: 04/23/94 10:11p
Subj: Re: ibmNET                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> how do I find more info on the satellite to pc hook up
->

  Call 615-623-4694.


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From: MIKE COPPOCK                           Number: 537
  To: SID BALCOM                               Date: 04/23/94  7:21p
Subj: PC & DesqView                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to Anyone, Sid Balcom said:

sb> on two different computers and I get lots of errors. When I
sb> run it in single user, it works great. I don't like the idea
sb> of having to have a dedicated computer to bring in the
sb> satellite stuff.

    You might want to upgrade the UART to a 16550AFN - it has a built in
character buffer that will ease the problem of time slicing.. The PC data
stream is 19.2k Sync.  And you just don't want to miss a single bit..

mc

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From: RICHARD WALLEN                         Number: 538
  To: JEFF BROWN                               Date: 04/24/94 11:47a
Subj: Fido Packet errors                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On Tue about 17:39, Jeff Brown retorted in a message to
All about Fido Packet errors when...

Hello Jeff!

 JB> I have been getting CRC errors in some of the fido packets.
 JB> I have checked the same packets that were received at
 JB> different times, and they are all bad.  This is a big
 JB> problem that needs to be fixed.  I have been getting 2-3 bad
 JB> packets each day, that is alot of messages being lost.
 JB> Thanks!

This has been noted here also over the past few days.  Though it really didn't
start until this past Friday where it was noticable... 4-22.  The mail running
here has dropped to about half of what it was due to missed bundles erroring
during receipt.  There have also been a few files corrupted to the same size...
I believe the magic number was 16588 or there abouts.

A little more each day...
           Richard Wallen

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From: MARTIN BELCKE                          Number: 539
  To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY                          Date: 04/24/94  7:42p
Subj: Re: Hello                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> But, in your opinion, how would you speed this system up without
-> spending $50K?  Seriously, I've considered a 486DX/2-66 for a dedicat
-> file server, but don't see that it would enhance the speed that much,
-> all BBS operations are being done on _ONE_ single hard drive, and I f
-> that is the problem in system slowdown at times.

John,

Give me a voice call sometime [phone].  There is no "best" time
to call.  I am in the computer room most of the time in the evenings and
throughout the day.  Answering machine will take a message if I am not
in.

--Martin--

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From: RANDY EDWARDS                          Number: 540
  To: KIM BERGMAN                              Date: 04/24/94 10:01p
Subj: Link test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On Apr 23 12:17 94, Kim Bergman of 1:358/25 wrote:

 KB> Just testing my link.  Please respond if you get this.

   You've reached deep into the woods of Vermont's Northeast Kingdom just fine.
 You're getting out Kim.
.
Randy                                 BBS [phone] (V.FC)
FidoNet 1:325/806 1:325/805           InterNet [e-mail]

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From: JOHN LITTLE                            Number: 541
  To: JEFF CUTLER                              Date: 04/24/94  1:12p
Subj: netmail                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jeff Cutler wrote in a message to All:

 JC>     Does planet connect offer the routing of Netmail through
 JC> them.  Now that I am getting a feed from PC I am not a part
 JC> of the NEC's CRP which means he does not have to route
 JC> outbound netmail for me.  Can I do the outbound through PC?

Netmail has nothing to do with EchoMail, and any NEC is required to route
netmail for all nodes in the net.  I don't think there is a requirement for you
to contribute to any CRP for this feature.  I think that is the way the policy
reads.

Thanks,
           John
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From: JOE LYDA                               Number: 542
  To: KIM BERGMAN                              Date: 04/24/94  3:50p
Subj: Link test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Kim!

In a message to All <04/23/94> Kim Bergman wrote:

KB> Hello All,


KB> Just testing my link.  Please respond if you get this.


KB> Kim
got it in Tennessee

Joe

 * WCE 1.5/2107 * DOS 6.0  $49 confirmation that you need a REAL DOS!

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From: KEITH SIPPY                            Number: 543
  To: JEFF CUTLER                              Date: 04/24/94 11:02a
Subj: netmail                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JC>     Does planet connect offer the routing of Netmail
 JC> through them.  Now that I
 JC> am getting a feed from PC I am not a part of the NEC's
 JC> CRP which means he does not have to route outbound
 JC> netmail for me.  Can I do the outbound through PC?

I think they do outbound, but not inbound.  It isn't too clear if both are
actually on the sat.  Might want to try.  I believe it isn't the NEC who is
responsible for netmail, but the NC.  I happen to be the NC of our net and
still get netmail from the RC (and other sources) and route landline.  That
hasn't changed for our net.

Keith


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From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY                        Number: 544
  To: MARTIN BELCKE                            Date: 04/24/94  5:17p
Subj: Re: Hello                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->>  MB> What else did you want to know?
->>
->> What kind operating systems on each machine?

 MB> MS-DOS 5.0 on all systems.  Also, QEMM 6.x on all systems.  I
 MB> will not run Qemm 7.x because of the forced stealth - a real
 MB> nightmare.

Huh?  I'm running QEMM v7.1 (I think that's the one...the latest 7.x)
here and there is no forced stealth...it asked me if I wanted to run
Stealth mode, and I entered "Hell No!" <G>

--jah

... First Arkansas, then Gennifer, and Now US!
--- Via Silver Xpress V3.01

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From: BILL CLARK                             Number: 545
  To: MARTIN BELCKE                            Date: 04/24/94  9:47p
Subj: hello                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a msg on <Apr 23 15:01>, MARTIN BELCKE of 1:232/10 writes:

 MB> MS-DOS 5.0 on all systems.  Also, QEMM 6.x on all systems.  I will not
 MB> run Qemm 7.x because of the forced stealth - a real nightmare.

"Forced stealth" under Qemm 7.0x????

I run Qemm 7.03 on three machines here, including the Planet Connect node, and
none are running Qemm's Stealth mode.  It's totally optional, just as it was
under Qemm 6.x.

:-)  Bill

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From: BILL WOLF                              Number: 546
  To: ELVIS HARGROVE                           Date: 04/23/94  2:11p
Subj: planet connect                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >  @ORIGIN :BOO!  Board Of Occult  McAllen Tx.
 >                N
 > Well, I sure hope SOMEONE sees this.  Heck I hope *I*
 > see this.  They tell me
 > if it don't come back as a dupe, I've done something
 > wrong!  (Strange system.
 > All this time I've been avoiding making dupes.)

It worked Fine.  Welcome!

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From: JIM DUNMYER                            Number: 547
  To: KEITH SIPPY                              Date: 04/23/94  8:37a
Subj: SAT COMPUTER SHOW                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


 > Did anyone see the computer show that was supposed to be on the sat?

Yeah, and it was OK. Good info on protecting your setup from lightning, and
some interviews from the BBS expo. Dunno if it was worth $150.00 or not, but it
might turn out that way...

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From: CYRUS CATHEY                           Number: 548
  To: ELVIS HARGROVE                           Date: 04/25/94  4:13a
Subj: planet connect                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  :}Well, I sure hope SOMEONE sees this.  Heck I hope *I* see this.  They tell

I saw it.
 ■ QMPro 1.01 41-3544 ■ <<Power Windows!  Windows, OS/2, MIDI, News>>


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From: CYRUS CATHEY                           Number: 549
  To: KIM BERGMAN                              Date: 04/25/94  4:15a
Subj: Link test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KB:}Just testing my link.  Please respond if you get this.
  :} * Origin: The Sailboard  (403)-854-4309   Hanna, Alberta (1:358/25)

Got it!

 ■ QMPro 1.01 41-3544 ■ <<Power Windows!  Windows, OS/2, MIDI, News>>


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From: BILL CLARK                             Number: 550
  To: KEITH SIPPY                              Date: 04/25/94  4:57p
Subj: netmail                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a msg on <Apr 24 11:02>, Keith Sippy of 1:283/121 writes:

 JC>     Does planet connect offer the routing of Netmail
 JC> through them.  Now that I
 JC> am getting a feed from PC I am not a part of the NEC's
 JC> CRP which means he does not have to route outbound
 JC> netmail for me.  Can I do the outbound through PC?

 KS> I think they do outbound, but not inbound.  It isn't too clear if both
 KS> are actually on the sat.  Might want to try.  I believe it isn't the NEC
 KS> who is responsible for netmail, but the NC.  I happen to be the NC of
 KS> our net and still get netmail from the RC (and other sources) and route
 KS> landline.  That hasn't changed for our net.

You can route netmail thru 1:3615/50, but it all goes landline.  PC_Site to
1:3615/50 via landline; from 1:3615/50 to 1:396/1 via landline, and then thru
the normal landline *EC/backbone channels to the appropriate RC via landline,
and from the RC to the NC via landline, and finally from the NC to the node via
landline.

:-)  Bill

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From: BILL CLARK                             Number: 551
  To: JOHN LITTLE                              Date: 04/25/94  5:00p
Subj: netmail                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a msg on <Apr 24 13:12>, John Little of 1:259/98 writes:

 JL> Netmail has nothing to do with EchoMail, and any NEC is required to
 JL> route netmail for all nodes in the net.  I don't think there is a
 JL> requirement for you to contribute to any CRP for this feature.  I think
 JL> that is the way the policy reads.

You better reread Policy4.  Policy4 makes no mention of routed netmail and the
NEC (Net Echo Coordinator).  It is the Net Coordinator (NC) that has that
routing requirement specified in Policy 4, and then only on inbound routed
netmail.  The NC has no requirement to forward routed netmail outside his/her
net - see Policy 4.

:-)  Bill

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From: DAVE PETRUCCI                          Number: 552
  To: JOHN LITTLE                              Date: 04/25/94  9:44p
Subj: Re: netmail                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > JC>     Does planet connect offer the routing of Netmail through
 > JC> them.  Now that I am getting a feed from PC I am not a part
 > JC> of the NEC's CRP which means he does not have to route
 > JC> outbound netmail for me.  Can I do the outbound through PC?

 >Netmail has nothing to do with EchoMail, and any NEC is required to route
 >netmail for all nodes in the net.  I don't think there is a requirement for
 >you to contribute to any CRP for this feature.  I think that is the way the
 >policy reads.
 >           John

John,
       This would only apply to inbound routed netmail.  NC's are not
       required to route any outbound netmail unless agreed to... Dave P.

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From: JOSEPH LAFERLA                         Number: 553
  To: KIM BERGMAN                              Date: 04/25/94  5:58p
Subj: Link test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Kim!

23 Apr 94 12:17, Kim Bergman wrote to All:

 JB> Hello All,


 JB> Just testing my link.  Please respond if you get this.

Looked at this message somewhat late but yes it came home up here in
Yellowknife as well.

Am now running my mailer software, tosser etc under OS2.  Anxiously awaiting PC
under OS2 as well.

All the best


Greetings from the Far North

Joe

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From: GORDON MALONE                          Number: 554
  To: SID BALCOM                               Date: 04/23/94  6:05a
Subj: Newbie PC questions                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Sid!

 >         I just got my first data stream yesterday, and OhMiGawd! I've
 > got dataflying all over the place. I had to stack a whole bunch of it
 > over in the corner until I can get it straightened out.

It is a "little" overwhelming at first, isn't it...... :)

 >         I've got some wierd questions, also.

 >         What software tosses the Usenet news groups? And, can we
 > redistribute the news groups?

What BBS Package are you running? You might be able to use one of the PD
tosserd like I thinks it Fredmail? I'm punning PCB and I use Merlin's PCBUUCP.
Very nice package. Does everthing including reassembling binaries and updates
the dir files to boot! :)

 >         Are the weather maps supposed to be current? The ones I saw seem
 > to be 2 days old. And, can we redistribute the weather stuff?

I was wondering the samething. I don't think we are supposed to be
redistributing those. I think they are basically allowed to d/l'd off your
board by live callers...... Jim/John or Boyd should know...

Taker EZ!

Gordon

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From: GORDON MALONE                          Number: 555
  To: SID BALCOM                               Date: 04/24/94  2:25a
Subj: PC & DesqView                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Sid!


 >         Does PTCCMAIN not run under DesqView? I've tried it on two
 > different computers and I get lots of errors. When I run it in single
 > user, it works great. I don't like the idea of having to have a
 > dedicated computer to bring in the satellite stuff.

 >         If it WILL run under DesqView, what's the trick to getting error
 > free reception?


I've been playing over here and have found it to run well under DV on a 386/40.
I am set to 3/3 ticks and have noticed trashed files when heavy forgraound
lookup activity is going on. I talked to Boyd about this and let him know that
DV give the include code away openly to help developers make their software DV
aware and he sounded like that was already on the slate. I was talking to
another PC user and he claims to get no errors running on an 386/40 using 1/1
ticks with heavy activity in the foreground..... I haven't benched it yet, but
my experience has been that performance is severely degredated with such little
processing time.......

Let me know what your tests yeild.......

Best Wishes,

Gordon

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From: RICHARD D. BONEBRAKE                   Number: 556
  To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY                          Date: 04/25/94  1:14p
Subj: Hello                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >->>  MB> What else did you want to know?
 >->>
 >->> What kind operating systems on each machine?

 >  MB> MS-DOS 5.0 on all systems.  Also, QEMM 6.x on all systems.  I
 >  MB> will not run Qemm 7.x because of the forced stealth - a real
 >  MB> nightmare.

 > Huh?  I'm running QEMM v7.1 (I think that's the
 > one...the latest 7.x)
 > here and there is no forced stealth...it asked me if I
 > wanted to run
 > Stealth mode, and I entered "Hell No!" <G>

I run qemm v7.4 and I run Stealth all the time with no problems and yes it does
ask if you want to use it or not.

Sincerely,
Richard D. Bonebrake


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From: JEFF CUTLER                            Number: 557
  To: EDDIE MONEY                              Date: 04/25/94  9:52a
Subj: PC & DesqView                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Eddie!

 EM> The program itself is a cpu HOG. It wants all the processor to itself.
 EM> Wish they would get a new program that is not the hog that this one is. I
 EM> have a 386 dx40 that recieves the sat stuff and that is all it can do.

    I have to agree on this one.  We are running a 386DX 40 as well.  We are
running it under desqview and a Novell Netware lite.  It shares the computer
with our mail only node running front door.  During the first broadcast of the
day I have front door just set to answer the phone without exiting for any
reason.  Of course PTCCMAIN gets the front window as well.  Its tricky but I
can get by the first broadcast of the day without errors.

        'Clean, Clear, and Naked'
        Jeff

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From: JEFF CUTLER                            Number: 558
  To: JOHN LITTLE                              Date: 04/25/94  2:56p
Subj: netmail                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello John!

 JL> Netmail has nothing to do with EchoMail, and any NEC is required to route
 JL> netmail for all nodes in the net.  I don't think there is a requirement
 JL> for you to contribute to any CRP for this feature.  I think that is the
 JL> way the policy reads.

    Here in region 12 there was a big brawl over that discusion.  From what I
could see the agreement was NEC's are responsible for inbound netmail coming to
me, but he/she is not have to route my outbound netmail.

        'Clean, Clear, and Naked'
        Jeff

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From: JEFF CUTLER                            Number: 559
  To: KEITH SIPPY                              Date: 04/25/94  3:03p
Subj: netmail                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Keith!

 KS> I think they do outbound, but not inbound.  It isn't too clear if both are
 KS> actually on the sat.  Might want to try.  I believe it isn't the NEC who
 KS> is responsible for netmail, but the NC.  I happen to be the NC of our net
 KS> and still get netmail from the RC (and other sources) and route landline.
 KS> That hasn't changed for our net.

    I am just worried about outbound netmail.  There have been too many
arguments in our area over particpating in cost recovery programs and nodes
that opt for another source.  Thanks for the info on outbound netmail.  I am
not sure how our NEC will feel about non paying nodes routing netmail through
him, and considering our current situation I don't think it will happen.

        'Clean, Clear, and Naked'
        Jeff

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From: ROB NELSON                             Number: 560
  To: JOHN LITTLE                              Date: 04/25/94  8:54p
Subj: netmail                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JL> Netmail has nothing to do with EchoMail, and any NEC is
 JL> required to route netmail for all nodes in the net.  I don't
 JL> think there is a requirement for you to contribute to any
 JL> CRP for this feature.  I think that is the way the policy
 JL> reads.

Actually the NEC doesn't have to do squat except keep tabs on who gets what
from where.  It's the NC's responsibility to route (inbound) netmail for nodes
in his net.  Outbound netmail may only be routed through nodes that agree to
route it, that includes routing oubound stuff through the NC.

Cheers,
           Rob
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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 561
  To: WALLACE SHELDON                          Date: 04/25/94  9:13p
Subj: Re: big files!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

WS> Joe,  it appears that it was never sent, because of it's size.  To
WS> call long distance to get it could cost as much or more than one
WS> months subscription.  I agree, it should be sent over the sat.

WS>        Wally

If I remember, there was a few people that said they recieved it??
No I won't poll for it either. (thats the whole idea behind getting a dish
RIGHT)?
It's just another file that either didn't make it or the .tic didn't make it.
I end up with all kinds of "extra" files/.tics at the end of the month.

-Joe
* SPITFIRE v3.4
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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 562
  To: SID BALCOM                               Date: 04/24/94  7:09a
Subj: PC & DesqView                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SB>        Does PTCCMAIN not run under DesqView? I've tried it on two different

 >computers and I get lots of errors. When I run it in single user, it works
 >great. I don't like the idea of having to have a dedicated computer to bring
 >the satellite stuff.

SB>        If it WILL run under DesqView, what's the trick to getting error fre

 >reception?


Even with 16550 uart chips which correct most errors, planet connect
receives tons of errors in desqview ONLY when you're in another window
typing.  If you start say, planet connect receive and 2 nodes of a bbs
reception will be fine.
--- FreeMail 1.09
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From: FLOYD DRENNON                          Number: 563
  To: JOHN LITTLE                              Date: 04/25/94  7:52p
Subj: netmail                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi John,

24 Apr 94, 13:12, John Little wrote to Jeff Cutler:

 JL> Netmail has nothing to do with EchoMail, and any NEC is required to route
 JL> netmail for all nodes in the net.  I don't think there is a requirement

Say what?  No one is *required* to route anything they choose not to.

 JL> for you to contribute to any CRP for this feature.  I think that is the
 JL> way the policy reads.

You should read policy again and then rethink your position.


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From: DAN WILLIAMSON                         Number: 564
  To: BOB SLOWINSKI                            Date: 04/24/94  4:01p
Subj: hello                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Bob Slowinski wrote:

BS> JUST wondering if someone could enlighten me on how they
BS> have their two networked machines setup.

I use LanTastic 5.0 (the old 2 MBPS cards not AI) among 3 units with the link
between the BBS and the PLANET boxes set up in full peer-to-peer (both systems
are servers and clients). The PLANET machine opens a network channel to the BBS
and tests to see if it doing intensive mail tossing (a flag called "toss.bsy").
If not busy then it sets its own flag "planet.bsy" and uses PCFU to move the
files across the network to the BBS inbound directory. If the BBS drops for a
mail toss during transfer the "planet.bsy" flag tells it to come back later to
do its work. The only reason the PLANET machine is set as server is so that I
can manipulate it remotely from my OS/2 command center. It has worked
consistently with the C-Band dish all along and has given me no problems using
a 16 MHz 286, a 16 MHz 386SX, and a 33 MHz 386DX as the PLANET motherboard. I
am currently configured with a 33 MHz 386DX on the BBS using 16550AFN comm
chips and a 16 MHz 386SX on the PLANET side. The OS/2 unit also serves a second
LAN aside from the BBS/PLANET Lantastic setup connected to my usenet feed etc..
At present I swallow the mail during the errorlevel drops produced by PC rather
than initiating transfers from the remote side. This produces mail in a large
lump rather than a gradual trickle that you could get by processing hourly from
the remote side. Works well for this net.

Hope that helps some,

Dan


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From: BRAD SETTLES                           Number: 565
  To: JEFF BROWN                               Date: 04/23/94 10:25a
Subj: Fido Packet errors                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

** Quoting Jeff Brown to All dated 19 Apr 94  17:39:12 **
J> I have been getting CRC errors in some of the fido packets.  I have checked
J> the same packets that were received at different times, and they are all
J> bad.  This is a big problem that needs to be fixed.  I have been getting 2-3
J> bad packets each day, that is alot of messages being lost.  Thanks!
J> --- CNet/3
J>  * Origin: Terminal Paradise BBS * Adults Only * 717-292-0497 * (1:270/611)
J>
We have been having complaints about that here too.
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From: MARK MALACARNE                         Number: 566
  To: ALL                                      Date: 04/23/94  9:12p
Subj: K12 Freeway?                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ok I'm looking for the areatags for K12?

Can someone post them again or let me know where I can FREQ them?


Thanks!
Mark!

--- Cray Systems .002+
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From: JOHNNY GREEN                           Number: 567
  To: SID BALCOM                               Date: 04/25/94 11:02a
Subj: PC & DesqView                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (22 Apr 94) Sid Balcom wrote to Anyone...

 SB>         Does PTCCMAIN not run under DesqView?


        If you have not already worked this out, contact Jeff at our
        office and he will help you out. He has the best knowledge of PC
        running under DesqView. You can catch him at 1:3615/50.3 also.


        ....Johnny

... │       Home of Planet Connect and Skylink Communications.
│

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From: JOHNNY GREEN                           Number: 568
  To: DON JOHNSON                              Date: 04/25/94 11:05a
Subj: Information                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (22 Apr 94) Don Johnson wrote to Boyd Goodin...

 DJ> Is there an information packet on what is required, and how one gets a
 DJ> network on Planet Connect?

        Best way for now is to send a fax with info on your net such as
        number of nodes, size of feed per day, who the boss is, who will
        send it to us, all this type stuff,.....

 DJ> I've sent netmail, but no response.


        Please send by fax at 615-625-8831.

        .....Johnny

... │       Home of Planet Connect and Skylink Communications.
│

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From: JOHNNY GREEN                           Number: 569
  To: DAVE POUNDS                              Date: 04/25/94 11:09a
Subj: ibmNET                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (22 Apr 94) Dave Pounds wrote to John Lyon...

 DP> how do I find more info on the satellite to pc hook up


        Not sure what you are asking...???

        Info on the system,..???  tech info on the satellite itself...??
        Give me a little more to work with....??


... │       Home of Planet Connect and Skylink Communications.
│

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From: PETER CONWAY                           Number: 570
  To: ALL                                      Date: 04/25/94 12:26p
Subj: * InterNet * Usenet *                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If you're calling a Commercial Internet Provider such as HoloNet(tm) to
get your mail for your BBS, then your paying WAY TOO MUCH.

Getting your Mail from another BBS? Quit going through a middle-man,
it's time to get your BBS a DIRECT Internet connection.

Sysops looking for REAL access to the Internet, I invite you to freq the
following file for complete information on how to get your system
connected to the InterNet for a lot less than you think.

Just some of the services we offer: Domain Name Registration (Have your
own REAL Internet Address such as anybbs.com ),E-mail, Newsgroups, FTP,
Telenet, IRC, Gopher, Archie, WAIS, WWW, PING, SLIP/PPP, Leased Lines
and more....



Freq: INTERUSE.ZIP
                           OR    Send Email to: [e-mail]
From: 1:271/320




Have a question? Give us a call, 804-229-4484. Office hours are
9am-7pm EST.


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From: MARK ADKINS                            Number: 571
  To: MODERATOR                                Date: 04/25/94  2:26p
Subj: Your name/node number                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I need the moderator of this echo's name and node number for a direct Netmail
send.

Please reply.

Thank you,

Mark Adkins
Blue Lake Systems
1:105/285

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From: GEORGE VANDERVORT                      Number: 572
  To: MARK MALACARNE                           Date: 04/25/94 11:54a
Subj: K12 Freeway?                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Mark!

Saturday April 23 1994 21:12, Mark Malacarne wrote to All:

 MM> Ok I'm looking for the areatags for K12?
 MM>
 MM> Can someone post them again or let me know where I can FREQ them?
 MM>
 MM>
 MM> Thanks!
 MM> Mark!
 MM>
 MM> -+- Cray Systems .002+
 MM>  + Origin: -= TLOTL =- In The Rockies! (1:104/918)

Look in your SKYDATA/PERSONAL directory for SATELITE.NA
that contains the AREA-Tags for K12_HYW and other stuff that's not in
Fidonet.na/Filebone..



George Vandervort
 ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb

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From: GEORGE VANDERVORT                      Number: 573
  To: JOHN LITTLE                              Date: 04/25/94 11:57a
Subj: netmail                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello John!

Sunday April 24 1994 13:12, John Little wrote to Jeff Cutler:

 JL> Jeff Cutler wrote in a message to All:
 JL>
 JC>> Does planet connect offer the routing of Netmail through
 JC>> them.  Now that I am getting a feed from PC I am not a part
 JC>> of the NEC's CRP which means he does not have to route
 JC>> outbound netmail for me.  Can I do the outbound through PC?
 JL>
 JL> Netmail has nothing to do with EchoMail, and any NEC is required to route
 JL> netmail for all nodes in the net.  I don't think there is a requirement
 JL> for you to contribute to any CRP for this feature.  I think that is the
 JL> way the policy reads.

Nope... don't be too quick to assume all NEC's and NETS operate like you net
does.

Not all NETS operate the same way...
in my Net the NEC is an Adminitrative Position and NOT a Mail Mover for my Net.

Also in my NET, there are Four, count them.. 1,2,3,4 seperate Downlinks to
Planet Connect, to each his/her own...

Our Primary Mail Feed is an Elected Position, Seperate from the NC & NEC
position, who provides Routed Netmail to/from the Fido Backbone to all Node in
our Net..

Regards,
George Vandervort - NET382 NEC
 ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 574
  To: ELVIS HARGROVE                           Date: 04/25/94  7:25a
Subj: Re: planet connect                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> @ORIGIN :BOO!  Board Of Occult  McAllen Tx.                          N
> Well, I sure hope SOMEONE sees this.  Heck I hope *I* see this.  They
> tell me
> if it don't come back as a dupe, I've done something wrong!  (Strange
> system.
> All this time I've been avoiding making dupes.)

> ^..^
> --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j'
> * Origin: BOO!  Board Of Occult, Rio Grande Valley Texas (1:397/6)


We see you over here.. Quit Mooning us! :-)

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From: DEAN LAKE                              Number: 575
  To: RUSSELL NABER                            Date: 04/25/94 11:35a
Subj: qemm                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Martin Belcke babbled to Russell Naber <on 04/23/94>:

MB} MS-DOS 5.0 on all systems.  Also, QEMM 6.x on all systems.  I will not
MB} run Qemm 7.x because of the forced stealth - a real nightmare.

You can run OPTIMIZE in the "Custom Installation" mode with QEMM
7.03 -- it allows you to install with or without stealth.

I've had some "mysterious random problems" disappear completely
since upgrading from QEMM 6.x to QEMM 7.03.  7.03 seems to be
rock solid. Works fine with or without stealth here.  Tried it
both ways for 30 days each.  Using it with DOS 5 and LANtastic 5.

Dean

 * WCE 1.5/2034 *


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From: BRIAN LINDENFELD                       Number: 576
  To: BOYD GOODEN                              Date: 04/25/94 11:18p
Subj: Com Ports                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Well had to share the com ports with com1 now so node1 comes down when I
receive Planet Connect and then come back up after so guess I have to put up
with that till OS/2 becomes available...
Thanks for all you help today and hope to be moving forward from here....

-=Brian=-

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From: N.L. HARGROVE                          Number: 577
  To: JOHN LITTLE                              Date: 04/25/94 12:59p
Subj: netmail                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a msg on <Apr 24 13:12>, John Little of 1:259/98 writes:

 JL> Netmail has nothing to do with EchoMail, and any NEC is required
 JL> to route netmail for all nodes in the net.  I don't think there
 JL> is a requirement for you to contribute to any CRP for this
 JL> feature.  I think that is the way the policy reads.

Sorry to inform you but no one is required to route Netmail.  Especially if it
places a burden of cost on them.  An net mail should be route via the Net
Coordinator not the Net Echomail Coordinator.  As you said Netmail has nothing
to do with echo mail.

If anyone has a problem routhing net mail then they should use the first rule
of thumb that I apply.  "Is it going to cost me money?"  If so then it will
cost someone else money too.


The Digital Media Publisher
N.L. (Jake) Hargrove
ReaderSoft Software

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From: GARY CRAIN                             Number: 578
  To: GEORGE HANNAH                            Date: 04/25/94 11:10a
Subj: netmail                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On Apr 25, 1994, at 17:08, George Hannah of 1:255/7 wrote:

 GH> However, it is your NC's job to route outbound netmail and
 GH> inbound netmail for you. I think this would be your best route,
 GH> since most software is setup with this type of routing in mind.

  Since this is not exactly topical, I was going to ignore it.  But, with all
the mis-information that's being tossed about I thought I'd just quote Policy4
to clear the air.
_ _ _ O / _ _ C_U_T_ H_E_R_E_ _ _ _
      O \
2.1.7  Not Routing Mail

You are not required to route traffic if you have not agreed to do so.  You
are not obligated to route traffic for all if you route it for any, unless
you hold a Network Coordinator or Hub Coordinator position.  Routing traffic
through a node not obligated to perform routing without the permission of
that node may be annoying behavior.  This includes unsolicited echomail.
4.2  Routing Inbound Mail

It is your responsibility as Network Coordinator to coordinate the receipt
and forwarding of host-routed inbound netmail for nodes in your network.  The
best way to accomplish this is left to your discretion.
_ _ _ O / _ _ C_U_T_ H_E_R_E_ _ _ _
      O \

  Which when condensed says, an NC must route INBOUND mail.  Period.
Gary

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From: RANDY EDWARDS                          Number: 579
  To: KIM BERGMAN                              Date: 04/26/94  7:08p
Subj: Fido Packet errors                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On Apr 25 23:19 94, Kim Bergman of 1:358/25 wrote:

 KB> How are you detecting these errors?  I haven't noticed any CRC errors
 KB> but I'm just getting started with PC so maybe I'm not doing it right.

   You won't detect any errors with PCUtil or other utilities.  It is the
PTCCMAIN program (the main Planet Connect program) that detects the errors.

   When PTCCMAIN receives a file with errors in it, you'll see it on the
monitor if you're watching, but PTCCMAIN won't even save this file to disk
since it's bad.  What happens is that during the second send of the files for
that day chances are you'll get a good receive on the 'bad' file that wasn't
saved then.
.
Randy                                 BBS [phone] (V.FC)
FidoNet 1:325/806 1:325/805           InterNet [e-mail]

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From: MARTIN BELCKE                          Number: 580
  To: JOHN LITTLE                              Date: 04/26/94  4:44p
Subj: netmail                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Netmail has nothing to do with EchoMail, and any NEC is required to r
-> netmail for all nodes in the net.  I don't think there is a requireme
-> you to contribute to any CRP for this feature.  I think that is the w
-> policy reads.

NEC's are NOT required to route netmail.  In fact, NEC's aren't required
to do anything.  Routed netmail goes by way of the *C structure, as per
Policy 4.  Many of the *EC structure have agreed to accept routed
netmail and do route it, but the have never been, nor are they REQUIRED
to do this.

--Martin Belcke--

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From: STEVE ADAIR                            Number: 581
  To: ALL                                      Date: 04/26/94 10:56p
Subj: Another Link test <g>                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Folks,

Well this seems to be the place for all us newbies to test our return links
onto the Satellite.  Anybody hear me??  Thanks!

Oh.. one quick question.  When I send my replies to Planet Connect I know that
it should go to the Satellite, but does it also go to the rest of Fido that
is NOT hooked onto the bird??  Thanks again.

God bless.


In Christ, Steve <[e-mail]>
==========================================================================
Jude 23 Ministries/The Firehouse bbs (803)-322-6822  FamilyNet 8:1011/0
[e-mail] "And others save with fear, pulling [them] out of the
fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh." (Jude 1:23)
==========================================================================


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From: STEVE ADAIR                            Number: 582
  To: JIM DUNMYER                              Date: 04/26/94 11:03p
Subj: SAT COMPUTER SHOW                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

<<Quoting: JIM DUNMYER   To: KEITH SIPPY >>



JD> > Did anyone see the computer show that was supposed to be on the sat?

JD> Yeah, and it was OK. Good info on protecting your setup from lightning,
JD> and some interviews from the BBS expo. Dunno if it was worth $150.00 or
JD> not, but it might turn out that way...

Lightning???  You mean now I have to worry about lightning too??  I have a
steel yard 20 yards from our house.  The lightning really homes in on all
that steel piled up.  I think that would act as a lightning rod for us...
but just something else to worry about eh?? <g>

Btw, tonight (Tuesday) around 9:30 P.M. the alarm went off on my receiver.
Did this happen with anyone else?  I ran outside to see if the dish was
alright, and it was, and the lnb light was on, but there was no data signal
coming in.  Anyone else have this problem?  That event only lasted for
about 5 minutes.  Oh, I lost my documents that PC sent me on how to turn
off that LOUD alarm that goes off... can someone tell me what the dip
switch settings are to turn off the alarm??

Thanks and God bless.


In Christ, Steve <[e-mail]>
==========================================================================
Jude 23 Ministries/The Firehouse bbs (803)-322-6822  FamilyNet 8:1011/0
[e-mail] "And others save with fear, pulling [them] out of the
fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh." (Jude 1:23)
==========================================================================


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From: ED FORTIN                              Number: 583
  To: JEFF CUTLER                              Date: 04/26/94  7:04p
Subj: Netmails                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

------------------------------------------------------------
 -=> Quoting Jeff Cutler to All <=-

 JC> Does planet connect offer the routing of Netmail through them.
 JC> Now that I am getting a feed from PC I am not a part of the NEC's CRP
 JC> which means he does not have to route outbound netmail for me.  Can I


Question...Should you not be included in the CRP for Netmails that are routed
through to you. Although you can route outbound Netmails Via 1:3615/50 I don't
think you can recieve them Via tha Bird! Thus your NC still has to poll for
his\her Netmails. Hence you are now part of the cost. Although it doesn't
equivilate to very much on a monthly basis, should you not still contribute..?

---
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From: ED FORTIN                              Number: 584
  To: ALL                                      Date: 04/26/94 11:28p
Subj: Hobbies Echo                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Has anyone been recieving mail in the hobbies echo. Although it's in the list
of echo's there seems to be NO Messages..?

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From: MICKEY FERGUSON                        Number: 585
  To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY                          Date: 04/27/94  2:42a
Subj: Re: Hello                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to Martin Belcke, John Hrusovszky said:

JH>Stealth mode, and I entered "Hell No!" <G>

Pity.....stealth works just great in the _latest_ version of QEMM.
I'm running it here on the machine that brings in the mail w/o any problems
whatsoever.  The _only_ thing that I've found that will not work with stealth
in the latest QEMM is the Brother's Keeper genealogy program....must be a bug
in Brother's Keeper!

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From: ED MARQUIS                             Number: 586
  To: JOHN LITTLE                              Date: 04/26/94  5:48a
Subj: netmail                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Netmail has nothing to do with EchoMail, and any NEC is required
 > to route netmail for all nodes in the net.

The NC is required but not the NEC.  Most NEC's route netmail along with the
Echomail as an alternate routing method.

Ed

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From: TIM BELLAART                           Number: 587
  To: MARK MALACARNE                           Date: 04/25/94 11:17p
Subj: K12 Freeway?                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Mark!

23 Apr 94, Mark Malacarne writes to All:

 MM> Ok I'm looking for the areatags for K12?

 MM> Can someone post them again or let me know where I can FREQ them?

Here you go Mark.

Tim

 _ _ _O_/_ _C_u_t_ _H_e_r_e_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
      O \
K12_FWY.ACAD.COMP     Academic Computing Info & Issues
K12_FWY.ART.ED.CLASS  Art Classroom
K12_FWY.BUS.ED.CLASS  Business Education Classroom
K12_FWY.CLASSIC.LANG  Classical Language Arts Classroom
K12_FWY.COUNSELING    School Counseling & Guidance
K12_FWY.EDU.ISSUES    Issues Concerning Educational Policies, Reform, etc.
K12_FWY.ENGLISH.CLAS  English Language Arts Classroom
K12_FWY.FRENCH.CLASS  French Language Arts Classroom
K12_FWY.GERMAN.CLASS  German Language Arts Classroom
K12_FWY.HLTH.PHYS.ED  Health & Physical Education Classroom
K12_FWY.HOME.ECON     Home Economics, Safety & Life Skills Classroom
K12_FWY.LIBRARY.SCI   Library Science Classroom (school and public)
K12_FWY.LOGISTIC.SUP  Logistical Support Svcs (food/transport/bldg&grnds,etc.)
K12_FWY.MATH.CLASS    Mathematics Classroom
K12_FWY.NET.ISSUES    Issues Concerning K12Freeway Network
K12_FWY.NEWS          K12Freeway Community Newsroom (news only, no discussion)
K12_FWY.OTHER.LANG    Other Language Arts Classroom (Japanese, Russian, etc.)
K12_FWY.PARENTS       Parents as Teachers/Curricular Resources
K12_FWY.PERF.ART      Performing Arts Classroom (band, drama, etc.)
K12_FWY.POPULATION    K12Freeway Conference on World Population
K12_FWY.PRINCIPALS    School Administrators conference
K12_FWY.RELIGION      Religious Education Classroom (non-public schools)
K12_FWY.SCI.CLASS     Science Classroom
K12_FWY.SOC.STUDIES   Social Studies Classroom
K12_FWY.SPANISH.CLAS  Spanish Language Arts Classroom
K12_FWY.SPEC.ED       Compensatory Education: learning disabled, etc.
K12_FWY.TAL&GIFTED    Teaching Talented & Gifted Students
K12_FWY.TEACHING      Philosophy/Science/Art/Craft/Profession of Teaching
K12_FWY.TECH.ED.CLAS  Technology Classroom
K12_FWY.UNION.ISSUES  School Employee Labor Union-related issues & information
K12_FWY.VOCATIONAL    Vocational & Trades Classroom

 _ _ _O_/_ _C_u_t_ _H_e_r_e_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
      O \

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From: ELVIS HARGROVE                         Number: 588
  To: RANDY EDWARDS                            Date: 04/26/94  2:35a
Subj: Link test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*@ORIGIN :BOO!  Board Of Occult  McAllen Tx.                          N
-> You've reached deep into the woods of Vermont's Northeast Kingdom just fine.
-> You're getting out Kim.

I wish someone would tell ME that!  (Even though my name aint Kim.)

From deepest South Texas, five miles from Mexico.

^..^
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From: JOHN DONOHUE                           Number: 589
  To: EVERYONE                                 Date: 04/26/94  9:10a
Subj: AreaFix 1.30 question                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Greetings All;
I'm assisting NET397's Planet Connect hub with his setup. In the
AreaFix 1:30 docs (in the WHATSNEW section) it mentions that AreaFix
will only honor one forward request per node per day. A little
experimentation seems to bear this out. Since the PC Node is feeding two
net hubs, and they are feeding the rest of the nodes in the net, each
hub only being able to do one forward request a day is a problem. Does
anyone know of a way to disable this 'feature'? (Besides say, switching
to RecUser or Squish Area Echo Link Manager)
----
I've also noticed that when we try to send echomail replys back to
1:3615/50, after FrontDoor connects, it gets the text string
"****ILLEGAL ACCESS****' and 3615/50 then disconnects. Does this
indicate a password error, or that 3615/50 doesn't have us entered in
his setup yet, or ?????
'Read-only' Fido echoes aren't exactly what we had in mind. ;-)



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From: BOB MORTIMER                           Number: 590
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 04/25/94 11:00p
Subj: account                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I sent this via RIME Planet Connect conference and in hopes of reaching
you I will re post it here in the Fido Planet Connect conference.

I seem to have a problem with the expire date of our Planet Connect
account. Our original starting date was in Oct 93 during your BETA test
period. Our first quarter payment started Nov 1 1993. We paid for three
months as a HUB. On January 11, 1994 I noticed PTCCMAIN.EXE beeping
at us, warning us of the 9 days to renew. This was 10 days before I
expected it to happen. We faxed you and after a few days called for our
renewal. I was told by Bob that a term was 30 days and a quarter is 3
times that or 90 days. Now I've paid for another quarter as a single BBS
node signing up as a yearly subscriber and I was told that my new expire
date is on July 12 1994.

I don't understand where I we are loosing all the day's.

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From: BILL ROPER                             Number: 591
  To: DEAN LAKE                                Date: 04/26/94 11:58a
Subj: qemm                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I've had some "mysterious random problems" disappear completely
-> since upgrading from QEMM 6.x to QEMM 7.03.  7.03 seems to be
-> rock solid. Works fine with or without stealth here.  Tried it
-> both ways for 30 days each.  Using it with DOS 5 and LANtastic 5.

Hi, Dean...

I run exactly the same thing.....   would one of those
"mysterious random problems" happen to have been the server
locking up as it starts to execute a program?  for absolutely
no apparent reason?

mine will run for a week at a time, and just about the time
I think it is bullet-proof, the darn thing will lock up and
then might do it again several times in that day, only to
work fine for days more....

thanks...

Bill...


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From: JIMMY BONDS                            Number: 592
  To: GILL BLUE                                Date: 04/25/94  2:51p
Subj: Test                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RE: Test
BY: Gill Blue to Jimmy Bonds on Sat Apr 23 1994 07:02:54

 >  I see you loud and clear here in Opp, Alabama. What part of Alabama are
 > you in ??  Gill
Back over in a little hole called Cullman, Al. ands thanks!

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From: JIMMY BONDS                            Number: 593
  To: KIM BERGMAN                              Date: 04/25/94  2:51p
Subj: Link test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RE: Link test
BY: Kim Bergman on Sat Apr 23 1994 12:17:21

 > Just testing my link.  Please respond if you get this.
Getting you here in Alabama!

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From: MICHAEL MCCABE                         Number: 594
  To: ALL                                      Date: 04/26/94  5:29a
Subj: Waffle                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Greetings All!

 Since our ZEC has switched over, it has us all updating/upgrading our systems!



 I am looking for help in setting up Waffle 1.65 as a Door off of RemoteAccess
2.xx

 Waffle loads and runs/works...  My problem is that it will not Return to RA,
but drops carrier   (I did read the doc's, I did add   disable: BYE   in the
static...)


Later...MM...

... Help,  I've plummeted to my death and I can't get up!

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From: MAC BRYANT                             Number: 595
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 04/26/94  9:12p
Subj: Feeds                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  Hello, Boyd!

  I signed up as a non-feeding node with Planet Connect. Now a sysop
  nearby (in another state) wants to poll Fido from me. What is the
  charge for adding this. Seems like I remember something about $10 per
  month? And what does that include? The filebone too?

  Thanks.

  .\\ac

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From: JOHN LE DUC                            Number: 596
  To: BOYD GOODEN                              Date: 04/26/94  2:06p
Subj: clari news groups                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Boyd!

PCUSENET.TXT lista the clari newsgroups as being active, however I have seen no
traffic from any of these groups. Is the PCUSENET file in error?

TTYL,
 John
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From: JOHNNY GREEN                           Number: 597
  To: SID BALCOM                               Date: 04/27/94 11:31a
Subj: PC & DesqView                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (26 Apr 94) Sid Balcom wrote to Johnny Green...

 SB>         Unfortunately, when I was at your office, with a million and
 SB> one questions, there was no one there to give me answers. I've still
 SB> got a million questions, and the only answer I've gotten so far is
 SB> that it doesn't work under DesqView.

        I am really wondering where you got that answer, for it is very
        inacurate. We run it here at the office under DesqView, and
        numerous sysops that have our system do also. Numerous folks
        here in this echo also run under DV as you have received msgs to
        that effect.


 SB>  I wonder if contacting your
 SB> office will do me any good.

        Totally up to you,.....we will be glad to help anyone any way
        we can,....no problem.


 SB> I get the impression that the two girls
 SB> are not too technically qualified.

        As with not going to your auto mechanic for open-heart surgery,
        or to your dentist for a broken refrigerator,..these LADIES jobs
        include handling the paper work, finances, mail, and just plain
        ole keeping Boyd and I straight., ( BTW,...you don't have to be
        technically qualified at all for that last one..<g>...).



... │       Home of Planet Connect and Skylink Communications.
│

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From: DON JOHNSON                            Number: 598
  To: JOHNNY GREEN                             Date: 04/27/94 12:22a
Subj: Re: Information                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Johnny Green had these words of wisdom for Don Johnson.
These words were uttered 25 Apr 94  11:05:47.

JG>         Best way for now is to send a fax with info on your net
JG> such as
JG>         number of nodes, size of feed per day, who the boss is,
JG> who will
JG>         send it to us, all this type stuff,.....

Well, since I really don't have access to a fax, is there a voice number?

Don Johnson

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From: LORI SMITH                             Number: 599
  To: ALL                                      Date: 04/27/94  7:56a
Subj: Test Origin                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Test message to see if origin line is appending MY net
address of 1:2255/60.... Thanks Guys!

                                +Lori+

 * OLX 2.1 * Member * Wildnet Steering Committee
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From: JEFF BOWMAN                            Number: 600
  To: KIM BERGMAN                              Date: 04/26/94  3:14a
Subj: Link test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Kim!

In a message to All <04/23/94> Kim Bergman wrote:

KB> Hello All,


KB> Just testing my link.  Please respond if you get this.


Coming In clear In Canton, Oh
<<sig.imp

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From: ED BOSTON                              Number: 601
  To: ALL                                      Date: 04/26/94  2:23p
Subj: FidoNet replies                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I was curious as to sending replies from FidoNet out onto the network.  Is
it necessary to send the replies through Planet Connect or can I upload
them to a local FidoNet hub?  For the conferences not on the backbone, I
know I would have to go through PC, but if I don't for the rest of the
conferences, I would rather advoid the LD costs.

Ed Boston
[e-mail]

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From: DEAN LAKE                              Number: 602
  To: BILL ROPER                               Date: 04/27/94  1:57p
Subj: qemm                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BR} Hi, Dean...

BR} I run exactly the same thing.....   would one of those
BR} "mysterious random problems" happen to have been the server
BR} locking up as it starts to execute a program?  for absolutely
BR} no apparent reason?

Yep, sounds familiar.  Might do it today on the mailer, tomorrow
on the BBS program, and next week on a door.  Wait 2 weeks, then
start hanging on the mail tosser.  No logic at all to it.

BR} mine will run for a week at a time, and just about the time
BR} I think it is bullet-proof, the darn thing will lock up and
BR} then might do it again several times in that day, only to
BR} work fine for days more....

Based on your description, I would strongly recommend an upgrade
to QEMM 7.03.  I hope you find its the solution.

Dean

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From: MIKE ATKINSON                          Number: 603
  To: JOHN LE DUC                              Date: 04/27/94  6:34p
Subj: Clari News Groups                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> PCUSENET.TXT lista the clari newsgroups as being active, however I have seen
-> no traffic from any of these groups. Is the PCUSENET file in error?

Ditto.  I have a user who would like to have them.

Boyd:  Any chance of getting them added to the feed?

Mike

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From: CHUCK WARREN                           Number: 604
  To: ALL                                      Date: 04/27/94 12:25p
Subj: Is it me????                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Is it me???   I don't think so...

It seems that everytime I FREQ a file from PC, it takes anywhere from
5-10 minutes before I see/get a steady stream of data flowing.  I'm
running a 14.4 USR Dual Std and have no problems like this with others.

I don't have to do this too often, only on occassion when a mail bundle
isn't recv'd by the second pass, but it's disturbing to spend 15 minutes
to get a 450k file!

Boyd, what seems to be the problem?  It's node 1 that I'm connecting
with, and I get the same results no matter how many times I hang-up and
try again.

Chuck


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From: ELVIS HARGROVE                         Number: 605
  To: JOHN DONOHUE                             Date: 04/26/94  4:19p
Subj: AreaFix 1.30 question                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*@ORIGIN :BOO!  Board Of Occult  McAllen Tx.                          N
-> 'Read-only' Fido echoes aren't exactly what we had in mind. ;-)

That's a very generous way of putting it.

I've been using quite a lot stronger language than THAT!

You mean to tell me we may expect this to WORK someday?  GLORY!

^..^
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From: ELVIS HARGROVE                         Number: 606
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 04/26/94  4:25p
Subj: Re: planet connect                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*@ORIGIN :BOO!  Board Of Occult  McAllen Tx.                          N
-> We see you over here.. Quit Mooning us! :-)

Well, I'll be dipped and dabbled around!  I AM getting out!  Will miracles
never cease, and the electron gods be forever blessed!  GLORY!

Now if the REST of the echos only worked!

^..^
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From: ELVIS HARGROVE                         Number: 607
  To: BILL WOLF                                Date: 04/27/94  1:39a
Subj: planet connect                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*@ORIGIN :BOO!  Board Of Occult  McAllen Tx.                          N
-> It worked Fine.  Welcome!

Yeah, but I found out tonight that it both WENT, and returned via landline, and
spent NO time on the bird.  (Strangely enough we don't get this echo off the
sat!)

What a _strange_ world Fido is....  (and apparently getting stranger by the
minute!)

^..^
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From: JIM WATSON                             Number: 608
  To: GEORGE HANNAH                            Date: 04/27/94 12:24p
Subj: Re: netmail                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

George Hannah wrote in a message to Jeff Cutler:

 -=> Quoting Jeff Cutler to All <=-

 JC> Does planet connect offer the routing of Netmail through them.
 JC> Now that I am getting a feed from PC I am not a part of the NEC's CRP
 JC> which means he does not have to route outbound netmail for me.  Can I

GH>  However, it is your NC's job to route outbound netmail and
GH> inbound  netmail for you. I think this would be your best

They are required to route -inbound-, but they don't have to route outbound.


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From: BURT JUDA                              Number: 609
  To: JOHN LE DUC                              Date: 04/27/94  9:35p
Subj: clari news groups                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

John Le Duc writes:

 JLD> PCUSENET.TXT lista the clari newsgroups as being active,
 JLD> however I have seen no traffic from any of these groups. Is
 JLD> the PCUSENET file in error?

clari.* is a Paid subscription hierarchy.  They can't send it thru the bird.


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From: EARL ALBIN                             Number: 610
  To: RICK EDWARDS                             Date: 04/24/94 10:00a
Subj: Quiet                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RR> This conference has been awfully quiet lately. Has no one been sending
RE> messages or is the config messed up at the BBS I call?

Rick,
      I think there is a problem in the bridge into FIDO where the Planet
Connect support is supposed to come from.  I'm sure your message is reaching
all RIME systems that carry the Planet Connect #458 conference.

I do not recall ever seeing a reply in this conference from anyone at PC to a
RIME only system!  Would be a big help if we could get support in here though.

Earl
===
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 * PostLink(tm) v1.20 VALLEYPC (#1066) : RelayNet(tm)

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From: BRAD CHESBRO                           Number: 611
  To: RICK EDWARDS                             Date: 04/24/94  7:32p
Subj: Quiet                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> This conference has been awfully quiet lately. Has no one been sending
-> messages or is the config messed up at the BBS I call?

Hush!  I'm trying to take a nap....


ROBONAP: Sleeps *for* you while you're online.
===
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From: RAY SNOW                               Number: 612
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 04/24/94  3:15a
Subj: Rime and pconn                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Right now its a pretty hot thread on RIME about the "delays" that the satellite
arrangements are imposing, versus the old land phone lines, on network mail.

I have heard it said that RIME might possibly add other options like FTP or
otherwise - in order to get faster mail turn around times. All at a cost to HUB
sites that would challenge current PConn costs on a monthly basis.

Question:
Is PConn going to implement any changes in the next few weeks to its RIME file
processing and upfeeds to the satellite, that would eliminate some of the RIME
leadership's concerns?
===
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 * Rocky Mountain Software  Salt Lake City, Ut  801-963-8721
 * PostLink(tm) v1.20 ROCKYMTN (#1384) : RelayNet(tm)

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From: CHRIS VON MOTZ                         Number: 613
  To: EARL ALBIN                               Date: 04/26/94 12:50p
Subj: Quiet                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I see it here in San Jose , Ca. , and yes , I am on Sat.

Amazing huh??

TTYL,

Chris.
===
 * The Flying Dutchman,San Jose,Ca.[phone],V.32bis.4 NODES
 * PostLink(tm) v1.20 REDBARON (#1077) : RelayNet(tm)

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From: JOHN BURTON                            Number: 614
  To: GEORGE HANNAH                            Date: 04/26/94  6:53p
Subj: netmail                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >  JC> Does planet connect offer the routing of Netmail through them.
 >  JC> Now that I am getting a feed from PC I am not a part of the NEC's CRP
 >  JC> which means he does not have to route outbound netmail for me.  Can I

 >  However, it is your NC's job to route outbound netmail and inbound
 >  netmail for you. I think this would be your best route, since most
 >  software is setup with this type of routing in mind.

eh .....

You may want to recheck your position on this, George...

As NC I am required to routed INBOUND mail...  *NOT* outbound mail...

                                --==jb==--

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From: DAVE PETRUCCI                          Number: 615
  To: ED FORTIN                                Date: 04/27/94 11:36p
Subj: Re: Netmails                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >Question...Should you not be included in the CRP for Netmails that are
 >routed through to you. Although you can route outbound Netmails Via
 >1:3615/50 I don't think you can recieve them Via tha Bird! Thus your NC
 >still has to poll for his\her Netmails. Hence you are now part of the cost.
 >Although it doesn't equivilate to very much on a monthly basis, should you
 >not still contribute..?

Ed,
       Routed INBOUND netmail is an obligation accepted by a NC and
       should not be part of a cost recovery program.. the same
       applies to Nodediffs, Fidonews and Policy updates/changes. Dave P.

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From: JERRY SCROGGIN                         Number: 616
  To: MICHAEL MCCABE                           Date: 04/27/94  6:27p
Subj: Waffle                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MM> I am looking for help in setting up Waffle 1.65 as a Door off of RemoteAcce

 >2.xx

MM> Waffle loads and runs/works...  My problem is that it will not Return to RA

 >but drops carrier   (I did read the doc's, I did add   disable: BYE   in the
 >static...)


i just did this also...i found waffle very unreliable..the rnews tosser
locked up way too ofter and waffle would lock up intermitently when
posting a message...here's how i got waffle to return to the bbs..

add a text file called RETURN to your \waffle\extern directory..

in the text file put    RETURN: /exit=15

then typing RETURN instead of BYE will make waffle exit with an error
level of 15 but with the carrier still high instead of dropping.

hope it helps,,,

jerry

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From: SIKKO DE GRAAF                         Number: 617
  To: ALL                                      Date: 04/26/94 10:29p
Subj: Planet connect in Europe??              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello friends oversea

I get temporarely this echo by normal channels.

Does anyone know if Planet connect will allready supprt Europe or is going to
support?..

greetings sikko de graaf

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From: DAVE POUNDS                            Number: 618
  To: JOHNNY GREEN                             Date: 04/27/94  3:04p
Subj: Re: ibmNET                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JG>         Not sure what you are asking...???
JG>
JG>         Info on the system,..???  tech info on the satellite itself...??
JG>         Give me a little more to work with....??
well I was asking how I find the hard ware to connect my satellite dish to my
computer I have seen the hard ware one time on the home shopping network that
way I can recive the nets over my dish

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From: BILL WOLF                              Number: 619
  To: STEVE ADAIR                              Date: 04/27/94  6:21p
Subj: SAT COMPUTER SHOW                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Btw, tonight (Tuesday) around 9:30 P.M. the alarm went
 > off on my receiver.
 > Did this happen with anyone else?  I ran outside to
 > see if the dish was
 > alright, and it was, and the lnb light was on, but
 > there was no data signal
 > coming in.  Anyone else have this problem?  That event
 > only lasted for
 > about 5 minutes.  Oh, I lost my documents that PC sent

Hmm.. Thats funny you mentioned that.   Do you have a KU dish?

I had the same thing last night. (Tuesday).  It was around
9:30 or could of been 8:30 my time.  The signal went all the way down, no data
coming in, but the lnb was okay.

Figured the storms we had in the area knocked the dish out of alignment.  Went
outside, and all was okay.

Also I noticed my receiver was a tad bit hot - Figured it overheated.  So I
just unplugged it and let it cool off for about 5 minutes.  Plugged it back in,
and away it went. Been on for about 21 hours, and no warning tones.

TakeCare,
Bill

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From: JOHN LE DUC                            Number: 620
  To: SID BALCOM                               Date: 04/27/94 12:14p
Subj: PC & DesqView                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Sid Balcom wrote in a message to Gordon Malone:

SB>         I think I may have a flakey 16550 in there and need
SB> to replace it. At the moment I'm using Netware Lite, which
SB> isn't all that happy under DesqView. So, there's a LOT of
SB> sneakernet going on.

Hmm, I'm running Desqview under NWLITE here with very few problems. I did have
a LOT of probs at first, but a week of trial and error with the server
configuration fixed the probs.  You need to be sure that you have enough client
tasks enabled (along with the associated buffers).  Each task you are running
is a client.  Also make sure your using DV V.2.62, QEMM 7.03, and have the
network parameters set correctly in DVsetup.  The downside to reconfiguring the
server is that the server needs more conventional memory.  Don't forget to
re-optimize after each change!  If you are tight on conventional mem (who
aint?), I had to kick in Vidram, VREMS, and select CGA for monitor type in
DVsetup ....which left me with 548K for the first task.  The remaining tasks
get about 520K.  Expanding Server and the other changes meant that Server could
not be loaded high....that plus the fact that the digifossel can't be loaded
high, really cuts into the base 739K of conventional memory!  With all of that,
I have a native DOS machine, one under Desqview, and a third running Windows
for Workgroups running together with only the usual problems caused by the
worst virus of them all....me.

I have found that trying to unzip a 10 meg file from and back to a Network
drive acrost the LAN is iladvised, but beyond that
everything is pretty smooth.

My problem is with W4W under NWLITE.......maybe Chacago will fix EVERYTHING.

TTYL,
 John
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From: KEN FLORY                              Number: 621
  To: JOHN LITTLE                              Date: 04/27/94  4:51a
Subj: netmail                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JL> Netmail has nothing to do with EchoMail, and any NEC is
 JL> required to route netmail for all nodes in the net.  I
 JL> don't think there is a requirement for you to
 JL> contribute to any CRP for this feature.  I think that
 JL> is the way the policy reads.

OOPS! Any *NC* is required to route *INCOMING* Netmail to this Net. There is no
requirements for *anyone* to route it outside the Net and there are no
requirements on an NEC at all because they don't exist.

Later
Ken
N305C
N305EC


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From: KEN FLORY                              Number: 622
  To: GEORGE HANNAH                            Date: 04/27/94  5:10a
Subj: Re: netmail                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 GH>  However, it is your NC's job to route outbound netmail and inbound
 GH>  netmail for you. I think this would be your best route, since most
 GH>  software is setup with this type of routing in mind.

Don't lead the guy astray. NC's are only required to route INBOUND Netmail.

Later
Ken

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From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY                        Number: 623
  To: GARY CRAIN                               Date: 04/27/94 10:42p
Subj: Re: Netmail                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 GH>> However, it is your NC's job to route outbound netmail and
 GH>> inbound netmail for you. I think this would be your best route,
 GH>> since most software is setup with this type of routing in mind.

 GC>   Since this is not exactly topical, I was going to ignore it.
 GC>   But, with all the mis-information that's being tossed about I
 GC>  thought I'd just quote Policy4 to clear the air.
 GC> _ _ _ O / _ _ C_U_T_ H_E_R_E_ _ _ _
 GC>       O \
 GC> 2.1.7  Not Routing Mail

 GC> You are not required to route traffic if you have not agreed
 GC> to do so. You are not obligated to route traffic for all if you
 GC> route it for any, unless you hold a Network Coordinator or Hub
 GC> Coordinator position.

I find it a bit trivial that someone thinks it is going to 'hurt' them
to route a netmail packet.  After all, most of us are running high
speed, and what does an extra 1 or 2 K at high speed actually cost in
money?  I doubt ANYTHING, since Ma Bell is not charging by the second,
but in x-second time slices, as far as I know.

 GC> Routing traffic through a node not obligated to perform routing
 GC> without the permission of that node may be annoying behavior.
 GC> This includes unsolicited echomail.

I've never personally seen this, so what exactly does routed netmail
look like to the node that it is being routed through?  I have heard of
instances where SysOps delete routed netmail (or read it) when they see
it, but I haven't for the life of me figured out how in the heck they
know it is there.


--jah

... If you're not the lead dog, everything looks the same!

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From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY                        Number: 624
  To: MICKEY FERGUSON                          Date: 04/27/94 10:42p
Subj: Re: Hello                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JH>>Stealth mode, and I entered "Hell No!" <G>

 MF> Pity.....stealth works just great in the _latest_ version of
 MF> QEMM

Hmmm.  I was once told NOT to run stealth on a BBS or it would actually
slow down the BBS.  If that has been remedied (or if it is false), I
will re-optimize to free up more ram.

Further, what's the latest version?  I am running v7.02 here.  Also, if
there is later version is there a patch available to bring me up to
date, or is it another 'fix' that we have to pay for?


--jah

... Hard Work has a Future Payoff.  Laziness Pays off Now.

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From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY                        Number: 625
  To: MAC BRYANT                               Date: 04/27/94 10:42p
Subj: Re: Feeds                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MB>   I signed up as a non-feeding node with Planet Connect. Now a
 MB>   sysop nearby (in another state) wants to poll Fido from me.
 MB>   What is the charge for adding this. Seems like I remember
 MB>   something about $10 per
 MB>   month? And what does that include? The filebone too?

Hi, Mac.  The additional $10.00 includes ANYTHING that you want to send
the other node(s), as long as you are already receiving it via Planet
Connect.

--jah

... If we can send a man to the moon -- why not Bill Clinton?

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From: FOXY FERGUSON                          Number: 626
  To: JOE LYDA                                 Date: 04/27/94  8:01a
Subj: Link Test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hiya, Joe!

JL> * WCE 1.5/2107 * DOS 6.0  $49 confirmation that you need a REAL DOS!

Picked up Novell DOS 7.0 a few weeks back, added some LAN cards and
DESQview/X 2.0, and I am one very *HAPPY* camper!


 * OLX 2.1 * P.O. Box 87 Kingston Springs TN 37082
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From: MICKEY FERGUSON                        Number: 627
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 04/28/94  2:20a
Subj: PC & DesqView                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to Sid Balcom, Tim Klan said:

TK>Even with 16550 uart chips which correct most errors, planet connect
TK>receives tons of errors in desqview ONLY when you're in another window
TK>typing.  If you start say, planet connect receive and 2 nodes
TK>of a bbs reception will be fine.

I had problems [running on a 386DX-40] when tossing mail in the other window
also.  Switching from "DV classic" to DV/X cured both problems.  For reasons I
don't really understand, PTCCMAIN appears to be much happier running under
DV/X than DV-classic.

Another thing....recently we've been getting a lot of stuff in with ZERO
errors but "trashed".....needless to say, we've tried just about everything to
fix this & have fine tuned the system to within an inch of its life!  About
the only time we miss anything now, it is weather related {we run a Ku
system}.  In order of importance, here's what we did:

1.- switched back to the 1128 version of PTCCMAIN [thanks Boyd].

2.- run X00 _BEFORE_ going into DV

3.- make sure X00 _LOCKS_ the port settings of the PTCCMAIN port!!!!!!!

4.- switched to DV/X

We tried all sorts of configs but settled on 1,2, & 4 above and were getting
about 85% on the first pass.  LOCKing the port setting in X00 bumped us up to
about 99% !!!

FYI: we are running two 486DX-33's and a 386DX-40 on an ethernet LAN with NDOS
7 and DV/X.....we are only using the LAN drivers from NDOS7 and allowing DV/X
to provide the client/server software.....uses _LOTS_LESS memory that way!

Mickey

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 628
  To: MARK ADKINS                              Date: 04/29/94  8:41a
Subj: Your name/node number                   Refer: 571
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> I need the moderator of this echo's name and node number for a direct
-> send.

Tim Helton
11030 NW 26th Place
Sunrise, FL 33322

Voice: 305-572-4848
Fax  : [phone]
BBS  : 305-572-3456
FIDO : 1:369/41

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 629
  To: BOB MORTIMER                             Date: 04/29/94  8:46a
Subj: account                                 Refer: 590
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> I sent this via RIME Planet Connect conference and in hopes of reachi

As of yesterday, this echo is now being gated to RIME...

tim
moderator
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From: PETER CONWAY                           Number: 630
  To: ALL                                      Date: 04/27/94  1:16p
Subj: * InterNet * Usenet *                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If you're calling a Commercial Internet Provider such as HoloNet(tm) to
get or send mail for your BBS, then your paying WAY TOO MUCH.

Getting your Mail from another BBS? Quit going through a middle-man,
it's time to get your BBS a true Internet connection.

Sysops looking for REAL access to the Internet, I invite you to freq the
following file for complete information on how to get your system
connected to the InterNet for a lot less than you think.

Just some of the services we offer: UUCP, Domain Name Registration
(Have your own REAL Internet Address such as anybbs.com ),E-mail,
Newsgroups, FTP, Telenet, IRC, Gopher, Archie, WAIS, WWW, PING,
, SLIP/PPP and more....



Freq: INTERUSE.ZIP
                           OR    Send Email to: [e-mail]
From: 1:271/320




Have a question? Give us a call, 804-229-4484. Office hours are
9am-7pm EST.


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From: BOYD GOODIN                            Number: 631
  To: BOB MORTIMER                             Date: 04/28/94  9:46a
Subj: Re: account                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> I don't understand where I we are loosing all the day's.

    Our caculations are not alway correct but the one that bob gave you is
currect. Let me know on the next update and I will fix it.



...Boyd

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From: BOYD GOODIN                            Number: 632
  To: MAC BRYANT                               Date: 04/28/94  9:49a
Subj: Re: Feeds                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> charge for adding this. Seems like I remember something about $10 per
> month? And what does that include? The filebone too?

   That is correct. When you feed fido that also includes the file areas.


...Boyd

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From: BOYD GOODIN                            Number: 633
  To: JOHN LE DUC                              Date: 04/28/94  9:51a
Subj: Re: clari news groups                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> PCUSENET.TXT lista the clari newsgroups as being active, however I have
> seen no traffic from any of these groups. Is the PCUSENET file in error?

    Yes. Clari is a subscription service and we are trying to see what the cost
would be. If it is a good price then we will carry them. I will be changing the
PCUSENET.TXT file shortly to reflect exactly what we have going over.

....Boyd

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From: BOYD GOODIN                            Number: 634
  To: ED BOSTON                                Date: 04/28/94  9:53a
Subj: Re: FidoNet replies                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> know I would have to go through PC, but if I don't for the rest of the
> conferences, I would rather advoid the LD costs.

   All relpies have to be sent to us to avoid a dupe problem.


...Boyd

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From: BOYD GOODIN                            Number: 635
  To: CHRIS VON MOTZ                           Date: 04/28/94  9:59a
Subj: Re: Quiet                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> I see it here in San Jose , Ca. , and yes , I am on Sat.

   Hey Chris!


.....Boyd

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From: MARTY DUPLISSEY                        Number: 636
  To: RANDY EDWARDS                            Date: 04/20/94  7:23p
Subj: Newbie PC questions                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No



Replying to a message of Randy Edwards to All:
 RE>    Turning to utilities, does anyone have a "Tick killer" utility?
 RE> What I'm looking for is for some utility that would automagically
 RE> examine the Tick files in a subdir and would kill off certain

Don't know of any. But seems pretty simple to write. What's it worth$ to
you.(G)


 RE>    Also, do any of you OS/2 users have a recommendation for an OS/2
 RE> AreaFix program?  If so, I'd love to hear your

I use Areafix for Os/2 here. Freqable as afp_130A.lzh.


Later, Marty!

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From: MARK MALACARNE                         Number: 637
  To: DENNIS POWERS                            Date: 04/27/94  9:23a
Subj: K12 Freeway?                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Dennis Powers to Mark Malacarne <=-


Hey Dennis!


 DP> K12_Fwy.SOC.STUDIES  Social Studies Classroom
 DP> K12_Fwy.SPANISH.CLAS Spanish Language Arts Classroom
 DP> K12_Fwy.SPEC.ED      Compensatory Education: learning disabled, etc.
 DP> K12_Fwy.TAL&GIFTED   Teaching Talented & Gifted Students

 -><-Dennis

Thanks!
Mark!



... If it wasn't for C, we would be using BASI, PASAL and OBOL!
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From: MARK MALACARNE                         Number: 638
  To: TIM BELLAART                             Date: 04/27/94  4:08p
Subj: K12 Freeway?                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Tim Bellaart to Mark Malacarne <=-

 TB> Hello Mark!

 TB> 23 Apr 94, Mark Malacarne writes to All:

 TB> Here you go Mark.

 TB> Tim

Thanks!!
Mark!


... Drop Your DOS, We Have your Windows Surrounded...
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From: JOHNNY GREEN                           Number: 639
  To: DON JOHNSON                              Date: 04/28/94 11:02a
Subj: Information                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (27 Apr 94) Don Johnson wrote to Johnny Green...

 DJ> Well, since I really don't have access to a fax, is there a voice
 DJ> number?

        Sure,....615-623-8300 is the main number at the office.

        .....Johnny


... │       Home of Planet Connect and Skylink Communications.
│

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From: JOHNNY GREEN                           Number: 640
  To: DAVE POUNDS                              Date: 04/28/94 11:22a
Subj: ibmNET                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (27 Apr 94) Dave Pounds wrote to Johnny Green...

 DP> well I was asking how I find the hard ware to connect my satellite
 DP> dish to my
 DP> computer I have seen the hard ware one time on the home shopping
 DP> network

        The system that you saw on Shop At Home, was our end-user system
        called SKYLINK. It uses a data-demodulator off of your currently
        existing C-band satellite system. The only mail that is
        transmitted on it is 50 echos from FIDO.


 DP> that way I can recive the nets over my dish

        If it is indeed the nets you are wanting, then you want our
        other service, PLANET CONNECT. If this is what you are wanting
        then all you need from us is the PC receiver which costs $
        299.00. This will connect to your dish and not require you to
        buy another dish unless you want to.

        Download or Freq PCINFO.TXT from our system,( 1:3615/50 )
        , dload from 615-623-8111,  and this file will
        cover the pricing and features of our system. We can also fax
        this info to you if you wish, (it's just too long to go over
        here, especially when most folks here already have one any way.)

        ......Johnny




... │       Home of Planet Connect and Skylink Communications.
│

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From: JOHNNY GREEN                           Number: 641
  To: SIKKO DE GRAAF                           Date: 04/28/94  1:06p
Subj: Planet connect in Europe??              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (26 Apr 94) Sikko De Graaf wrote to All...

 SD> Does anyone know if Planet connect will allready supprt Europe or is
 SD> going to support?..
 SD>
 SD> greetings sikko de graaf


        Hello Sikki...!!! This is Johnny Green from Planet Connect. We
        are currently working on that feed and hope to have everything
        finalized here very soon. We are looking at different
        transponder options and the like to get the feed to you guys and
        gals over there. Be patient and we should be ready to go with in
        the next few months.,( it's real hard to give a more direct time
        table, with all the issues that have to be dealt with.)

        Good to hear from you ..!!!

        ...Johnny


... │       Home of Planet Connect and Skylink Communications.
│

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From: JOHNNY GREEN                           Number: 642
  To: EARL ALBIN                               Date: 04/28/94  1:12p
Subj: Quiet                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (24 Apr 94) Earl Albin wrote to Rick Edwards...

 EA> I do not recall ever seeing a reply in this conference from anyone at
 EA> PC to a RIME only system!  Would be a big help if we could get support
 EA> in here though.

        Not sure which actual feed you sent this through, but I see you
        here and would be glad to help any RIME folks that are interested.

        Just leave me msgs here and I will try my best.

        ....Johnny


... │       Home of Planet Connect and Skylink Communications.
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From: DAVID COLEMAN                          Number: 643
  To: ALL                                      Date: 04/28/94 10:20p
Subj: Test                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am getting PLENTY of mail coming in and am sending one of those
stupid "am I getting out" messages. More importantly, as this is my
first message, and before I send any more, is this done right and if not
what is wrong?

Thanks,
David

 * OLX 2.1 TD * Between two evils, pick the one you never tried before!

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From: FOXY FERGUSON                          Number: 644
  To: ELVIS HARGROVE                           Date: 04/28/94  3:09p
Subj: Link Test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EH>*@ORIGIN :BOO!  Board Of Occult  McAllen Tx.                          N
EH>-> You've reached deep into the woods of Vermont's Northeast Kingdom just
EH>fine.
EH>-> You're getting out Kim.

EH>I wish someone would tell ME that!  (Even though my name aint Kim.)

EH>From deepest South Texas, five miles from Mexico.

Ok, Elvis, you're getting out...

Hiya, from Tennessee, the "Mother" of Texas....   ;-)


 * OLX 2.1 * P.O. Box 87 Kingston Springs TN 37082
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From: MIKE ATKINSON                          Number: 645
  To: CHUCK WARREN                             Date: 04/28/94 12:37p
Subj: Is It Me????                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> It seems that everytime I FREQ a file from PC, it takes anywhere from 5-10
-> minutes before I see/get a steady stream of data flowing.  I'm

I'm not sure which node I've been on but the times I've freq'd something from
PC it always steps right up to a 1640-1650 cps rate.  This has been at various
times of day or night with v.32bis (USR dual)..

Mike

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From: BILL WOLF                              Number: 646
  To: ELVIS HARGROVE                           Date: 04/28/94  7:04p
Subj: planet connect                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > *@ORIGIN :BOO!  Board Of Occult  McAllen Tx.
 >                N
 >-> It worked Fine.  Welcome!

 > Yeah, but I found out tonight that it both WENT, and
 > returned via landline, and
 > spent NO time on the bird.  (Strangely enough we don't
 > get this echo off the
 > sat!)

Hm.. That is strange - as I'm getting this echo from PC.  No land-lines
involved here, other than the one used to deliver this message to Planet
Connect!  :-)

TakeCare,
Bill

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From: JOHN LE DUC                            Number: 647
  To: BURT JUDA                                Date: 04/28/94  5:10p
Subj: clari news groups                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Burt Juda wrote in a message to John Le Duc:

BJ> John Le Duc writes:

 JLD> PCUSENET.TXT lista the clari newsgroups as being active,
 JLD> however I have seen no traffic from any of these groups. Is
 JLD> the PCUSENET file in error?

BJ> clari.* is a Paid subscription hierarchy.  They can't send
BJ> it thru the bird.


Then I was correct, it is an error that they are listed in the current
PCUSENET.TXT file?  My downlinks are bugging me for an explination as to why PC
claims to have them available, but there is no feed. I will have to feed them
from my UUCP account, I guess.

TTYL,
 John
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From: JIM DUNMYER                            Number: 648
  To: STEVE ADAIR                              Date: 04/28/94  5:00p
Subj: SAT COMPUTER SHOW                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


 > Lightning???  You mean now I have to worry about lightning too??  I

The coax cable can act as an antenna and pick up a pretty good voltage spike,
even if the lightning hits only "close by". This spike can fry your receiver or
LNB, or perhaps other connected equipment. They suggest that you install a
lightning arrestor device in the coax; it can be bought from the Planet Connect
folks or probably any local satellite dealer.

Can't help you with your alarm problem, my 'C' band receiver doesn't have one.
(I don't think it does, anyway)

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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 649
  To: BOB MORTIMER                             Date: 04/28/94  4:16p
Subj: account                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BM> I don't understand where I we are loosing all the day's.

Not meaning to butt in here, but the same thing happened to me.
I was told that they would make the difference up at the end of the sub. I lost
4 days when I renewed.
If you look at 3 months vs. 1/4 year, PC is going to come out ahead.
12 months at 30 days per month = 360 days, 5 days short of a full year..

-Joe
* SPITFIRE v3.4
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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 650
  To: LORI SMITH                               Date: 04/28/94  4:27p
Subj: Test Origin                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LS> Test message to see if origin line is appending MY net
LS> address of 1:2255/60.... Thanks Guys!

LS>                                +Lori+

LS> * OLX 2.1 * Member * Wildnet Steering Committee
LS> --- GEcho 1.01+
LS> * Origin: OLX 2.1 * Member * Wildnet Steering Committee (1:2255/60)

Looks ok here Lori.
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From: BILL ROPER                             Number: 651
  To: DEAN LAKE                                Date: 04/28/94  9:24p
Subj: qemm                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> BR} Hi, Dean...
->
-> BR} I run exactly the same thing.....   would one of those
-> BR} "mysterious random problems" happen to have been the server
-> BR} locking up as it starts to execute a program?  for absolutely
-> BR} no apparent reason?
->
-> Yep, sounds familiar.  Might do it today on the mailer, tomorrow
-> on the BBS program, and next week on a door.  Wait 2 weeks, then
-> start hanging on the mail tosser.  No logic at all to it.
->
-> BR} mine will run for a week at a time, and just about the time
-> BR} I think it is bullet-proof, the darn thing will lock up and
-> BR} then might do it again several times in that day, only to
-> BR} work fine for days more....
->
-> Based on your description, I would strongly recommend an upgrade
-> to QEMM 7.03.  I hope you find its the solution.

You don't know how glad I am to hear someone else has had
the same problem......

I have 7.03 coming and will keep my fingers crossed.

thanks....

Bill...


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From: KEN KAVANAGH                           Number: 652
  To: ED FORTIN                                Date: 04/28/94 11:58a
Subj: Hobbies Echo                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

      On Tuesday April 26 1994, Ed Fortin writes to All:

Hello Ed!

 EF> Has anyone been recieving mail in the hobbies echo. Although it's in the
 EF> list of echo's there seems to be NO Messages..?

Boyd may wish to clairify but I do beleive it was stated a few weeks ago or
more that the Hobbies echo  doesn't ??want?? to be distributed by satellite
Most rediculous if I may say so myself  :)  One has best double check  that
with Boyd though.

Cheers, Ken


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From: MARK ADKINS                            Number: 653
  To: ALL                                      Date: 04/28/94 12:01a
Subj: Rime network on line                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'd like to thank our Moderator Tim Helton for allowing me to gate this echo
To<=>From the RIME network.

Mark Adkins
Blue Lake System's Sysop

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From: STEVE UTICK                            Number: 654
  To: RICK EDWARDS                             Date: 04/25/94  8:08p
Subj: Quiet                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RE=}Boy!

RE=}This conference has been awfully quiet lately. Has no one been sending
  =}messages or is the config messed up at the BBS I call?

Well, if it is messed up on yours, it is messed up on mine too.  I think I have
only seen about 10 messages in here in the two weeks I have had RIME up and
running!  Do you know if Planet Connect even monitors this conference at all?
As far as I know, I haven't seen any messages from anyone there in here.

                                Steve
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From: TIM FIERRO                             Number: 655
  To: JOHNNY GREEN                             Date: 04/28/94  3:50p
Subj: PC & DesqView                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JG>         As with not going to your auto mechanic for open-heart surgery,
JG>         or to your dentist for a broken refrigerator,..these LADIES jobs

Don't lumpo all mechanics together in a group.  Why just last
week I had open-heart surgery and got a free lube job at the same
time.  :)


The Racer's Edge Network Delivery System * TRENDS! [phone]/939-7876

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From: GARY CRAIN                             Number: 656
  To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY                          Date: 04/27/94  7:24p
Subj: Netmail                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On Apr 27, 1994, at 22:42, John Hrusovszky of 1:238/300@fidonet wrote:

 JH> I find it a bit trivial that someone thinks it is going to
 JH> 'hurt' them to route a netmail packet.  After all, most of us

  I find it trivial, you find it trivial, but, there are those who will not
route anything.  We must conform, in this case, to the lowest common
denominator and Policy 4.

 JH> is not charging by the second, but in x-second time slices, as
 JH> far as I know.

  In parts of minutes usually.  It is conceivable that a netmail message or two
could roll you cost into the next minute, half minute or whatever.

 GC>> Routing traffic through a node not obligated to perform
 GC>> routing without the permission of that node may be annoying
 GC>> behavior. This includes unsolicited echomail.

 JH> I've never personally seen this, so what exactly does routed
 JH> netmail look like to the node that it is being routed through?

  I don't know about you, but here, running Intermail, netmail looks just like
netmail.  I use MsgTrack to check on netmail going thru here and strip any bits
that I will not honor, such as Crash, FileAttach, Direct, etc.

 JH> I have heard of instances where SysOps delete routed netmail (or
 JH> read it) when they see it, but I haven't for the life of me
 JH> figured out how in the heck they know it is there.

  In my case, it shows up in the netmail folder and is available to be read, at
least until I send it on.  I rarely look at any of it since I know that it's
not for me and doesn't violate any of my standards.  BTW, they are not supposed
to delete netmail, if you know personally of anyone doing it you can make a
hell of a case for a Policy Complaint, if you're so inclined.  Netmail does
have to be routed, but it should be returned from whence it originated.
Gary

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From: JOHN LUNDELL                           Number: 657
  To: ALL                                      Date: 04/28/94 11:40a
Subj: Satellite Reciever For Sa               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 @SUBJECT:Satellite Reciever for Sale                                 N
Uniden 2200
Digital Readout, Variable audio control, Polarity control output and
skew control, video invert switch, audio-video-baseband outputs.
Dimensions: 13" W, 10" D, 3" H
---------------------------------------------------------------
I purchased this little unit just a week ago and used it for the first BBS TV
show and have not used it since.. it's brand new (only used once) and I'm
looking to sell it since i just purchased a full satellite TV system and no
longer have a use for it.  I'm asking $100 + 10 S&H... I'm saving you $50 and
for only having it be used once!  All original packaging etc. still here ready
to ship off to you.  701-775-5601 voice  will accept VISA/MC.. 1:14/644 is my
BBS node number.

Here is what it sells for new:

Uniden 2200 satellite receiver:  NEW ($149.00 plus $10.00 S&H)
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From: JOHN LE DUC                            Number: 658
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 04/28/94  8:33p
Subj: Re: clari news groups                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to John Le Duc:

> PCUSENET.TXT lista the clari newsgroups as being active, however I have
> seen no traffic from any of these groups. Is the PCUSENET file in error?
BG>
BG>     Yes. Clari is a subscription service and we are trying
BG> to see what the cost would be. If it is a good price then we
BG> will carry them. I will be changing the PCUSENET.TXT file
BG> shortly to reflect exactly what we have going over.
BG> ....Boyd

Great!  My downlinks are giving me fits about the "old, outdated file" *I* keep
using and want to know why *I'm* too lazy to get a new one <G>.
A discription file would save me a lot of, "I don't know what that news group
is." mesages.

TTYL,
 John
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From: DEAN LAKE                              Number: 659
  To: BILL ROPER                               Date: 04/30/94 12:09a
Subj: qemm                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


BR} You don't know how glad I am to hear someone else has had
BR} the same problem......

Probably about as glad as I was to stumble across the answer.

Dean

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From: MICKEY FERGUSON                        Number: 660
  To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY                          Date: 04/29/94 11:33p
Subj: Re: Hello                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JH>Hmmm.  I was once told NOT to run stealth on a BBS or it would actually
JH>slow down the BBS.  If that has been remedied (or if it is
JH>false), I will re-optimize to free up more ram.

I can't tell the difference [speedwise] on this 486DX-33 running two copies of
RA plus a mailtoss window...between running stealth & no stealth. Tho I can
see the difference in the available RAM.

JH>Further, what's the latest version?  I am running v7.02 here.
JH>Also, if there is later version is there a patch available to bring me
JH>up to date, or is it another 'fix' that we have to pay for?

We are running QEMM v7.04 here & got it when we upgraded to DV/X V2.0; so I
don't know if there is a patch and/or upgrade.

Mickey

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From: FOXY FERGUSON                          Number: 661
  To: DEAN LAKE                                Date: 04/29/94  9:54a
Subj: Qemm                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DL>Based on your description, I would strongly recommend an upgrade
DL>to QEMM 7.03.  I hope you find its the solution.

Hi, Dean!

We installed v7.04 two, maybe three weeks ago...

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From: FOXY FERGUSON                          Number: 662
  To: DAVID COLEMAN                            Date: 04/29/94 10:54p
Subj: Test                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC>I am getting PLENTY of mail coming in and am sending one of those
DC>stupid "am I getting out" messages. More importantly, as this is my
DC>first message, and before I send any more, is this done right and if not
DC>what is wrong?

Methinks you've got it right, David. From middle Tennessee, Welcome!

Foxy

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From: RICK VANHOOSER                         Number: 663
  To: RICK EDWARDS                             Date: 04/27/94  4:04a
Subj: Quiet                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> This conference has been awfully quiet lately. Has no one been
-> sending messages or is the config messed up at the BBS I call? Hello Rick, I
think it is because we have moved everything in regards to PC to the ADMIN
conference.  Your message did get out.

Rick
===
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 * PostLink(tm) v1.20 METROPLX (#1786) : RelayNet(tm)

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From: RICK VANHOOSER                         Number: 664
  To: RAY SNOW                                 Date: 04/27/94  4:09a
Subj: Rime and pconn                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Question:
-> Is PConn going to implement any changes in the next few weeks to its
-> RIME file processing and upfeeds to the satellite, that would
-> eliminate some of the RIME leadership's concerns?

Ray, in this message to Boyd, its more that 'RIME leadership's concerns'!  I
pay the bills for this end and have MANY!

Rick
===
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From: JON ANDERSON                           Number: 665
  To: RAY SNOW                                 Date: 04/27/94  1:30p
Subj: Rime and pconn                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RS>Question:
RS>Is PConn going to implement any changes in the next few weeks to
RS>its RIME file processing and upfeeds to the satellite, that would
RS>eliminate some of the RIME leadership's concerns?
RS>



Boyd has made it known that he might or might not be able to respond to mail to
him, so let me 'unburden' the guy (inappreciation for all he and his people are
doing to help us! ..Thanks, Boyd..)

Now, to the point:

Rime administration was/is concerned about what they perceive as unnecessarily
long 'turn around times' and delays in getting mail distributed.  The fact
seems to be that if a hub is used to the quick net distribution character of
hubs and nodes which historiclly transfer mail several times per day, then Yes,
there is a slowdown... a slowdown which they perceive as intolerable.  As I
scan the commenting within Rime on this, there just have not been a great
number of bbs's havingthis problem ..but those who do are big and important hub
systems, and all the net suffers when they're not max'd out ..

And yes, am happy to have read today that Rime admin and PC have gotten
together and taken steps to understand the problem and to do something about
it..

This includes PC recoding some ware (which will take some weeks) , and Rime
doing several uploads to PC daily.. In turn, PC will add all new mail to 'later
broadcasts' of that day's packets ... In other words, when new stuff is sent in
to PC, they'll add it/update the packets immediately ...  For a period of some
weeks, they've agreed to a plan of coordinated actions that will help/cure the
problem, ...

I hope I've paraphrased satisfactorily what i recall of what i read..

And folks have asked that they not be unnecessarily bothered with tons of
questions/complaints/etc until the solutions have a chance to work and/or be
further modified...

We should thank both parties for working together on this...

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From: CHRIS VON MOTZ                         Number: 666
  To: MARK ADKINS                              Date: 04/28/94  1:47p
Subj: Planet connect conference               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Good show Mark , thanks. Its all here.Grin.

Could you please leave me your voice Nr. so I can call you , and get the dope
on Fido , as I have been planning to get on that for better than 2 years now ,
and its going to happen.

I do have Intermail as Front , and it works well. I also have their tosser , so
it seems to be a matter of getting the details worked out and GO Like
Heck.Grin.

Thanks and greetings,

Chris.
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From: RICK EDWARDS                           Number: 667
  To: STEVE UTICK                              Date: 04/28/94  8:18a
Subj: Quiet                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SU>RE=}Boy!

SU>RE=}This conference has been awfully quiet lately. Has no one been sending
  >  =}messages or is the config messed up at the BBS I call?

SU>Well, if it is messed up on yours, it is messed up on mine too.  I think
  >I have only seen about 10 messages in here in the two weeks I have had
  >RIME up and running!  Do you know if Planet Connect even monitors this
  >conference at all?  As far as I know, I haven't seen any messages from
  >anyone there in here.

When this conference first started, one could almost count on at least 30
messages a day. The past couple of weeks.....nada.   This morning, along with
your message, there are 322 messages.....all in a 24 hour period.

Something got "unstuck."

regards.....<re>
===
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From: RICK EDWARDS                           Number: 668
  To: RICK VANHOOSER                           Date: 04/28/94  8:19a
Subj: Quiet                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RV>-> This conference has been awfully quiet lately. Has no one been
  >-> sending messages or is the config messed up at the BBS I call?
  >Hello Rick, I think it is because we have moved everything in regards to
  >PC to the ADMIN conference.  Your message did get out.

Why was it moved?

.....<re>
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From: MARK ADKINS                            Number: 669
  To: CHRIS VON MOTZ                           Date: 04/29/94 10:50a
Subj: Planet connect conference               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Could you please leave me your voice Nr. so I can call you , and get
-> the dope on Fido , as I have been planning to get on that for better
-> than 2 years now , and its going to happen.

Sure will Chris. I'll R/O-R the number in NetAdmin.

-> Thanks and greetings,

Anytime and nice to have everyone here.

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From: MARK ADKINS                            Number: 670
  To: MICKEY FERGUSON                          Date: 04/29/94  2:38p
Subj: Pc & desqview                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Mickey,

What's the difference between DV-Classic and DV/X? I have not used DV since
vr2.3 and I'm a bit out of touch. I have a new application that requires DV and
it's time to get the latest version. I'd rather buy just 1 program instead of
two.

Thanks,
Mark

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From: DAVE PETRUCCI                          Number: 671
  To: KEN KAVANAGH                             Date: 04/30/94  3:23a
Subj: Re: Hobbies Echo                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >Boyd may wish to clairify but I do beleive it was stated a few weeks ago or
 >more that the Hobbies echo  doesn't ??want?? to be distributed by satellite
 >Most rediculous if I may say so myself  :)  One has best double check  that
 >with Boyd though.
 >Cheers, Ken

Ken,
       I have to agree with you on that.... Is there any logic
       behind that decision?
       This doesn't mean we still can't have a HOBBIES echo
       does it... but only distributed by satellite.. 8-)
Dave P.

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From: RICK HOLT                              Number: 672
  To: DEAN LAKE                                Date: 04/29/94 12:11a
Subj: qemm                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Russell Naber <04/25/94> Dean Lake wrote:

DL> I've had some "mysterious random problems" disappear completely
DL> since upgrading from QEMM 6.x to QEMM 7.03.  7.03 seems to be
DL> rock solid. Works fine with or without stealth here.  Tried it
DL> both ways for 30 days each.  Using it with DOS 5 and LANtastic 5.

The 7.04 upgrade patch made a world of difference on my system and is no
longer giving me the Exception Error 13 Messages.  You may want to get a
copy of it to try out.

                        Till Later...
                                Rick Holt

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From: MICHAEL MCCABE                         Number: 673
  To: JERRY SCROGGIN                           Date: 04/29/94  4:08a
Subj: Waffle                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Greetings Jerry!

Wednesday April 27 1994 18:27, Jerry Scroggin wrote to Michael Mccabe:

 JS> ...here's how i got waffle to return to the bbs..
 JS> hope it helps,,,

 That it did.
  Now it even works :)

Later...MM...
 ([e-mail])

... RAM DISK is NOT an installation procedure!

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From: KEN FLORY                              Number: 674
  To: FOXY FERGUSON                            Date: 04/29/94  5:13a
Subj: Link Test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 FF> Picked up Novell DOS 7.0 a few weeks back, added some LAN cards and
 FF> DESQview/X 2.0, and I am one very *HAPPY* camper!

This is a route I was wanting to go, but had been warned off as there seemed to
be some kind of a problem using the multitaskeing part on a macine doing comm
work. What I had been told was that if you swapped windows during a dat
transfer you will either hang the transfer or cause errors. Have you
experienced anything of this nature?

Later
Ken


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From: MAC BRYANT                             Number: 675
  To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY                          Date: 04/29/94  6:52a
Subj: Re: Feeds                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


JH|Hi, Mac.  The additional $10.00 includes ANYTHING that you want to send
  |the other node(s), as long as you are already receiving it via Planet
  |Connect.

  Thanks, John. I've forwarded the message along. Will let you guys
  know.

  .\\ac

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From: MAC BRYANT                             Number: 676
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 04/29/94  4:03p
Subj: Re: Feeds                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BG|> charge for adding this. Seems like I remember something about $10 per
  |> month? And what does that include? The filebone too?

BG|   That is correct. When you feed fido that also includes the file areas.

  Thanks, Boyd. I've passed the word along. Will let you know.

  .\\ac

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From: GEORGE LAFRENIERE                      Number: 677
  To: ALL                                      Date: 04/29/94  1:01a
Subj: Family Net                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    Does anyone know if Family net is still comming over the bird. I
have not received anything for a while, and the filebone.na says that it
is not on the sat.

                                     George


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From: ELVIS HARGROVE                         Number: 678
  To: N.L. HARGROVE                            Date: 04/28/94  3:14a
Subj: netmail                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*@ORIGIN :BOO!  Board Of Occult  McAllen Tx.                          N
-> The Digital Media Publisher
-> N.L. (Jake) Hargrove
-> ReaderSoft Software


Well, dang Jake!  Here you are too......

^..^
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From: GREG ROSLER                            Number: 679
  To: DAVID COLEMAN                            Date: 04/29/94  7:19p
Subj: Reply...                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RE: Test
BY: David Coleman on Thu Apr 28 1994 10:20 pm

Well, you made it here with no problem. Got your message just fine!



Greg


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From: BILL MAGEORS                           Number: 680
  To: KIM BERGMAN                              Date: 04/29/94  8:44p
Subj: Link test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 KB> Just testing my link.  Please respond if you get this.

Howdy!

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From: JOHNNY GREEN                           Number: 681
  To: TIM FIERRO                               Date: 04/30/94  9:00a
Subj: PC & DesqView                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (28 Apr 94) Tim Fierro wrote to Johnny Green...

 TF> Don't lumpo all mechanics together in a group.  Why just last
 TF> week I had open-heart surgery and got a free lube job at the same
 TF> time.  :)


        Now that sounds interesting,.....at the same time.!,...
        ....but not at the same place I bet,...<g>....

        Yeah,.....was your doctor a lady,...?,..?!??!?

        ....Johnny

...        Planet Systems Inc. [phone] Voice [phone] BBS

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From: DIANE SUMMERS                          Number: 682
  To: MIKE ATKINSON                            Date: 04/30/94  7:55a
Subj: Clari News Groups                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Mike!

MA> Ditto.  I have a user who would like to have them.

Same here! :)

                                                ...Di

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From: MICKEY FERGUSON                        Number: 683
  To: TIM FIERRO                               Date: 04/30/94 11:05p
Subj: PC & DesqView                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to Johnny Green, Tim Fierro said:

TF>JG>         As with not going to your auto mechanic for open-heart surgery,
TF>JG>         or to your dentist for a broken refrigerator,..these LADIES
TF>jobs

TF>Don't lumpo all mechanics together in a group.  Why just last
TF>week I had open-heart surgery and got a free lube job at the
TF>same
TF>time.  :)

I always thought that auto-mechanics ought to be paid better than medical
doctors....after all medical doctors only have to learn to work on one make
and two models! <G>

[FYI: I am neither an auto-mechanic nor an MD.]

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From: MICKEY FERGUSON                        Number: 684
  To: GEORGE LAFRENIERE                        Date: 05/01/94  2:10a
Subj: Family Net                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to All, George Lafreniere said:

GL>    Does anyone know if Family net is still comming over the
GL>bird.

Well, I keep having to delete them before compressing my disk.  Guess I really
ought to send them to NUL/,

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From: DEAN LAKE                              Number: 685
  To: RICK HOLT                                Date: 04/30/94 12:21p
Subj: qemm                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RH} The 7.04 upgrade patch made a world of difference on my system and is no
RH} longer giving me the Exception Error 13 Messages.  You may want to get a
RH} copy of it to try out.

Thanx.  Just picked up the latest version from QEMM's BBS.


QEMM upgrades, got em here for F'REQ:   (1:232/30 or 1:232/46)

701to704.EXE - 271k
702to704.EXE - 217k
703to704.EXE - 191k

Or call QEMM's BBS directly, at 310-314-3227

Dean

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From: ELVIS HARGROVE                         Number: 686
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 04/30/94  3:39a
Subj: Re: FidoNet replies                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> All relpies have to be sent to us to avoid a dupe problem.

Ok.  How do we avoid the ******ILLEGAL*******ILLEGAL*******ILLEGAL********

problem?    <grin>

Would you guys please install our session password (or whatever the heck is
wrong) so we CAN send our replies to you!

D-Bridge seems to think we've touched it in a tender place when we call.

We sort of had INTERACTIVE Planet Connect in mind when we installed it.

 <grin>

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From: CRAIG CLARK                            Number: 687
  To: GEORGE LAFRENIERE                        Date: 04/30/94  7:07p
Subj: Family Net                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

George Lafreniere wrote in a message to All:

GL>     Does anyone know if Family net is still comming over the
GL> bird. I have not received anything for a while, and the
GL> filebone.na says that it is not on the sat.

It's still being sent, but sometimes several days will go by without any
bundles then you will get three or four days worth in one day.  I think the
FamilyNet heads are working at smoothing out the flow.

-=- Craig.

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From: CHUCK WARREN                           Number: 688
  To: MIKE ATKINSON                            Date: 04/30/94  8:01a
Subj: Is It Me????                            Refer: NONE
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MA->I'm not sure which node I've been on but the times I've freq'd something fr
MA->PC it always steps right up to a 1640-1650 cps rate.  This has been at vari
MA->times of day or night with v.32bis (USR dual)..

   Dual here as well as I stated, and the same thing happened last
   night.  I believe I'm getting on the first node, but not sure about
   that.

   Chuck


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From: TIM LAJOIE                             Number: 689
  To: FOXY FERGUSON                            Date: 04/28/94 11:18p
Subj: Link Test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Picked up Novell DOS 7.0 a few weeks back, added some LAN cards and
-> DESQview/X 2.0, and I am one very *HAPPY* camper!

    How much did the upgrade cost?


Cheers!
Tim Lajoie,
SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net


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From: GARY BARR                              Number: 690
  To: ALL                                      Date: 04/30/94  7:38p
Subj: RA/FD/TICK                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  I am running RA V2.0/pro with FD 2.20 Commercial Verion & Tick.

My problem is I am hubing some file areas that I get from the
FDN's. I cannot however figure out how to have Tick set the
messages (containing the .TIC info) as KILL/SENT.  That way
after FD sends the message with the file attach, that it will
delete the attached files...since I no longer need them.  The
only way I can figure out how to do it, is to manually go into
Frontdoor's FM and change the status to KILL/SENT.  Is there any
way that I am missing to automatically set the message as
KILL/SENT?

Gary

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From: GORDON MALONE                          Number: 691
  To: JOHNNY GREEN                             Date: 04/30/94  9:17a
Subj: Planet Connect Network!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey Johnny!

So, when are we going to start ramping up on Planet Connect's Network? I'd love
to help with managing that! By the time we get our buddies across the pond
hooked in to the system could be well on our way to building the network....

What do I need to do to get started on it!?! :) <Big Old Grin>

Gordon

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From: CHRIS BATES                            Number: 692
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/01/94  6:57a
Subj: Usenet Groups                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

I am running a board here in the heart of Arkansas, and I am considering going
ahead and running with the Usenet groups!  What I want to know is, What
software will I need?  I use Remote Access 2.01+, FrontDoor 2.12+, GEcho 1.02+,
Allfix 4.20 /gamma 4+, and OS/2 2.1... I am fairly knowledgeable about my Fido
setup, but what tosser, etc would I need for Usenet??  Also, is it read only,
or can I send back replies, and get them answered quickly??  I know that
through a university in another town (Long Distance unfortunately:), they can
send out a message, and have it back within a few hours!  What can I expect
with PC's Usenet??  Also, is there a "FIDONET.NA" listing for Usenet, or
something that lists "echoes"??  If you know the answer to some of these,
please give me whatever input you can!  I want to hear from people who actually
have this working, cause I want to offer my users Usenet and Fido, so we will
have the best of both!  Thanks in advance!

Chris

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From: CHRIS BATES                            Number: 693
  To: CHUCK WARREN                             Date: 05/01/94  7:09a
Subj: Is It Me????                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Chuck!

Thursday April 28 1994 12:37, Mike Atkinson wrote to Chuck Warren:

 ->> It seems that everytime I FREQ a file from PC, it takes
 ->> anywhere from 5-10 minutes before I see/get a steady stream of
 ->> data flowing.  I'm

Just to throw in my ten cents here, I always got 1600 to 1700 CPS rates with my
14.4's, and I now get 3300 and up to 3600 CPS rates with my new 28.8's!  If you
make many "file Requests" from them, it is worth the $140 for a new 28.8!

Chris

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From: CHRIS BATES                            Number: 694
  To: MARK ADKINS                              Date: 05/01/94  7:15a
Subj: Pc & desqview                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Mark!

Friday April 29 1994 14:38, Mark Adkins wrote to Mickey Ferguson:

 MA> Hello Mickey,

 MA> What's the difference between DV-Classic and DV/X? I have not
 MA> used DV since vr2.3 and I'm a bit out of touch. I have a new
 MA> application that requires DV and it's time to get the latest
 MA> version. I'd rather buy just 1 program instead of two.

DESQview/X is the GRAPHICAL version of DESQview, and it comes with QEMM, where
regular DESQview doesn't necessary, unless you buy them together, recommended!
I have ran both, and DESQview seems to be the overall better package, because
it IS NOT graphical, and therefore runs a little faster!  Also, regular
DESQview is half the price of /X!  Hope this helps, and sorry to but in!

Chris

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From: GARY RYNO                              Number: 695
  To: GARY BARR                                Date: 05/01/94  1:33p
Subj: RA/FD/TICK                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Gary -

 > I cannot however figure out how to have Tick set the
 > messages (containing the .TIC info) as KILL/SENT.  That way
 > after FD sends the message with the file attach, that it will
 > delete the attached files...since I no longer need them.

I'm afraid you're confused.  The kill/sent attribute won't do anything to files
attached to a message.  It will cause the *message* itself to be deleted after
it's sent; any files that were attached will be left alone.

FM also supports the del/sent flag, which *will* cause any files attached to a
message to be deleted after they're sent.  Del/sent and kill/sent in
combination will delete both the .msg and any attached files.

Unfortunately, Tick doesn't have del/sent capability.  If even Tick did support
that flag, there's a serious problem using this particular technique, however:
if you happen to be routing the same file to more than one downlink, the first
time you transmit it, del/sent will delete it, and any other downlinks won't
get it at all; just a null file attach message with nothing actually attached
to it.

 > Is there any way that I am missing to automatically set the message as
 > KILL/SENT?

Tick is a good program, but by contemporary standards it's become dated and
very limited compared to some of its alternatives.  Frankly, I'd suggest that
you just switch to Allfix and be done with it.  Speaking as a veteran of
several years on the Tick beta team, Allfix is a far superior and more capable
program in every respect.  It'll solve this particular problem for you, and
dozens of others you may not have encountered yet.  Most importantly, it will
integrate easily and seamlessly into your FD/RA system, and give you a ton of
nifty features and advanced capabilities that you don't currently have.

If you'd like, you're welcome to FReq AFIX420E.ZIP from me at 1:202/302,
anytime but ZMH.

- Gary

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From: BILL STARR                             Number: 696
  To: KEN FLORY                                Date: 04/30/94 11:05a
Subj: Link Test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->  FF> Picked up Novell DOS 7.0 a few weeks back, added some LAN cards
->  FF> DESQview/X 2.0, and I am one very *HAPPY* camper!
->
-> This is a route I was wanting to go, but had been warned off as there
-> to be some kind of a problem using the multitaskeing part on a macine
-> comm work. What I had been told was that if you swapped windows durin
-> transfer you will either hang the transfer or cause errors. Have you
-> experienced anything of this nature?
->
-> Later
-> Ken
->
->
Sorry to butt in here, but you guys seem to know what you are doing. I
am new to Planet Connect and wanted to know a few things.

1st - I am runnig Wildcat 3.90Multinode but only one active node and the
      second is a local. Use Front Door and GoMail as tosser. 486/66
      with 2 gig h/d and 16meg ram.

Now - How do I kill the echo messages that are not being utilitzed on
      my board. Right now they are being tossed into BADMSG dir?
      Is there some way I can NUL or NIL them out so they wont get
      tossed just dumped into the trash can?

Bill Starr, Sysop, United We Stand America BBS

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From: JOHNNY GREEN                           Number: 697
  To: GORDON MALONE                            Date: 05/01/94 11:30a
Subj: Planet Connect Network!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (30 Apr 94) Gordon Malone wrote to Johnny Green...

 GM> So, when are we going to start ramping up on Planet Connect's Network?
 GM> I'd love to help with managing that! By the time we get our buddies
 GM> across the pond hooked in to the system could be well on our way to
 GM> building the network....

        Lots to do on our end first, the transponders will be the first step,
        and Joe is already working on that. There are so many options that
        each one must be weighed out accordingly. We will be sure to keep
        everyone updated.

...        Planet Systems Inc. [phone] Voice [phone] BBS

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From: MICKEY FERGUSON                        Number: 698
  To: MARK ADKINS                              Date: 05/01/94  1:58p
Subj: Pc & desqview                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MA>What's the difference between DV-Classic and DV/X? I have not
MA>used DV since vr2.3 and I'm a bit out of touch. I have a new
MA>application that requires DV and it's time to get the latest
MA>version. I'd rather buy just 1 program instead of two.

Well, DV-Classic is the DV you're accustomed to.  I believe it is up to
version 2.6? these days.  DV/X is an X-windows server/client with a much more
pleasing user interface.  Plain old DV is rather LAN dumb while DV/X is
designed to wring every bit of performance it can from a LAN.  DV/X is also
better at high speed serial I/O.

Mickey

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From: MICKEY FERGUSON                        Number: 699
  To: KEN FLORY                                Date: 05/02/94  2:38a
Subj: Link Test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to Foxy Ferguson, Ken Flory said:

KF> FF> Picked up Novell DOS 7.0 a few weeks back, added some LAN cards and
KF> FF> DESQview/X 2.0, and I am one very *HAPPY* camper!

KF>This is a route I was wanting to go, but had been warned off
KF>as there seemed to be some kind of a problem using the
KF>multitaskeing part on a macine doing comm work. What I had
KF>been told was that if you swapped windows during a dat
KF>transfer you will either hang the transfer or cause errors.
KF>Have you experienced anything of this nature?

I don't think that Foxy has answered, but we were previously running regular
DV on the machine and whenever we tossed mail in the other window, we got
errors in the PC window. With DVX that doesn't happen.  Also, we toss the mail
on another machine & pulling a few meg of mail bundles while the mail is still
coming in does _not_ cause errors in the current file.

I hope this answers your questions.

Mickey

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From: MICKEY FERGUSON                        Number: 700
  To: KEN FLORY                                Date: 05/02/94  2:40a
Subj: Link Test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

My previous reply is a bit confusing...at least to me...so I thought I'd add
this....

We toss the mail from the bird on another machine, but we toss the replys back
to Planet Connect on the machine running the PTCCMAIN program.  In other
words, the incoming mail is tossed on one machine while the outgoing mail is
tossed on another.  So the machine running PTCCMAIN does toss mail. <G>

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From: BRIAN HESS                             Number: 701
  To: STEVE ADAIR                              Date: 04/29/94  8:41p
Subj: Another Link test <g>                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Steve!

Tuesday April 26 1994 22:56, Steve Adair wrote to All:

 SA> Hi Folks,

 SA> Well this seems to be the place for all us newbies to test our
 SA> return links onto the Satellite.  Anybody hear me??  Thanks!

Yes we hear you accross town <G>

 SA> Oh.. one quick question.  When I send my replies to Planet
 SA> Connect I know that it should go to the Satellite, but does it
 SA> also go to the rest of Fido that is NOT hooked onto the bird??

Yes it does....

Thank you,
         Brian

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From: KEN SHORT                              Number: 702
  To: ALL                                      Date: 04/28/94  5:13p
Subj: Need idea's                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi all, well I have just jumped on the Planet Connect Band wagon...I was
holding off until they got an OS/2 fix, but have just been told they are having
probs with the new dongle, they are beta testing...ARRRGGHHH... Oh well...Now i
need some idea's on what i should do to hook a dos box to my OS/2 bbs
machine...IE  what is a good package to hook the 2 machines...A way of telling
my bbs machine to toos the planet connect stuff...and ANY other info you think
is helpful....Thanks in advance...
                             Have a gooder.
                             Ken Short 1:134/3200 Fido
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From: ERIC KRICHBAUM                         Number: 703
  To: JOHN LUNDELL                             Date: 05/01/94 12:41p
Subj: Re: Satellite Reciever For Sa           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 28 Apr 94  11:40:00, John Lundell muttered something to All.

JL>  @SUBJECT:Satellite Reciever for Sale                                 N
JL> Uniden 2200
JL> Digital Readout, Variable audio control, Polarity control output and
JL> skew control, video invert switch, audio-video-baseband outputs.
JL> Dimensions: 13" W, 10" D, 3" H
JL> ---------------------------------------------------------------
JL> I purchased this little unit just a week ago and used it for the first BBS
JL> show and have not used it since.. it's brand new (only used once) and I'm
JL> looking to sell it since i just purchased a full satellite TV system and no
JL> longer have a use for it.  I'm asking $100 + 10 S&H... I'm saving you $50 a
JL> for only having it be used once!  All original packaging etc. still here re
JL> to ship off to you.  701-775-5601 voice  will accept VISA/MC.. 1:14/644 is
JL> BBS node number.
JL>
JL> Here is what it sells for new:
JL>
JL> Uniden 2200 satellite receiver:  NEW ($149.00 plus $10.00 S&H)

Is this the Ku band or C band receiver?

Eric
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From: BURT JUDA                              Number: 704
  To: JOHN LE DUC                              Date: 05/01/94  8:44a
Subj: clari news groups                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

John Le Duc writes:

 JLD> PCUSENET.TXT lista the clari newsgroups as being active,
 JLD> however I have seen no traffic from any of these groups. Is
 JLD> the PCUSENET file in error?

BJ> clari.* is a Paid subscription hierarchy.  They can't send
BJ> it thru the bird.


 JLD> Then I was correct, it is an error that they are listed in
 JLD> the current PCUSENET.TXT file?  My downlinks are bugging me
 JLD> for an explination as to why PC claims to have them
 JLD> available, but there is no feed. I will have to feed them
 JLD> from my UUCP account, I guess.

In which case your feed would be in violation of their contract with CLARInet.


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From: KEN KAVANAGH                           Number: 705
  To: DAVE PETRUCCI                            Date: 05/01/94 10:10p
Subj: Hobbies Echo                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

      On Saturday April 30 1994, Dave Petrucci writes to Ken Kavanagh:

Hello Dave!

 DP>        I have to agree with you on that.... Is there any logic
 DP>        behind that decision?
 DP>        This doesn't mean we still can't have a HOBBIES echo
 DP>        does it... but only distributed by satellite.. 8-)

you can  get it..of  course..but not from PC.   shrug...silly is all I can say.

Cheers, Ken


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From: KEN KAVANAGH                           Number: 706
  To: RANDY EDWARDS                            Date: 05/01/94 10:12p
Subj: Hobbies Echo                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

      On Saturday April 30 1994, Randy Edwards writes to Ken Kavanagh:

Hello Randy!

 RE>    Yes, I'd agree.  There are plenty of echo moderators who want to keep a
 RE> tight control on their echos, and many of them with good reason (for
 RE> example, an echo for recovering alcoholics might want to double-ensure
 RE> that twits aren't filling the echo with the joys of drinking).

yup..which Is  why private "Recovery-Nets"  come  into being <smile>

 RE>    But the traditional way that these echos are dealt with is that they're
 RE> removed from the backbone.  Putting an echo on the backbone is, IMHO,
 RE> pretty much an agreement that you're willing to let anyone link into it by
 RE> default and will only "cull" the problem nodes when/if they become
 RE> problems. .

no argument  :) so i still don't see how an echo about HOBBIES??? can have an
ego about not getting as much exposure.   (The only reason this is an issue is
cuz one of my downlinks is questioning me "Aren't we getting it from the
satellite??"  <grin>

Cheers, Ken


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From: JOHNNY GREEN                           Number: 707
  To: STEVE UTICK                              Date: 04/29/94 11:29a
Subj: Quiet                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (25 Apr 94) Steve Utick wrote to Rick Edwards...

 SU> Do you know if Planet Connect even
 SU> monitors this conference at all?  As far as I know, I haven't seen any
 SU> messages from anyone there in here.

 SU>  * The H.U.G.E. BBS - [phone]  13+ GIGS of Shareware!
 SU>  * PostLink(tm) v1.20 HUGEBBS (#5528) : RelayNet(tm)

        Looks like the gate that was setup nows has the RIME stuff echo'd
        here, so have at it, let us know what we can do,.and WELCOME..!!

        ....Johnny

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From: JACK WILLIAMS                          Number: 708
  To: BILL STARR                               Date: 05/02/94 11:55a
Subj: Re: Link Test                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to KEN FLORY <04-30-94 11:05> BILL STARR wrote:

BS> Now - How do I kill the echo messages that are not being utilitzed on
BS>       my board. Right now they are being tossed into BADMSG dir?

Hi, Bill. I have written some software that extracts what your board needs
from the message packets. If you are interested, please let me know.

Regards, Jack

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From: RANDY EDWARDS                          Number: 709
  To: BILL STARR                               Date: 05/02/94  7:58p
Subj: Link Test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On Apr 30 11:05 94, BILL STARR of 1:309/51 wrote:

 BS> Now - How do I kill the echo messages that are not being utilitzed on
 BS> my board. Right now they are being tossed into BADMSG dir?

   This, of course, depends on your echomail processor.  You could make your
bad message directory a NUL device so that they're not saved.

   For me, what I do is have every single one of those echos defined in my
echomail processor's config file, but I make them 'pass-through' areas so no
messages are saved if I don't want them.  Except for the small dupe-checking
file that most echomail processors create, it doesn't cost me much disk space
and yet it still allows others to link into them if they want them.
.
Randy                                 BBS [phone] (V.FC)
FidoNet 1:325/806 1:325/805           InterNet [e-mail]

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From: RANDY EDWARDS                          Number: 710
  To: KEN SHORT                                Date: 05/02/94  8:02p
Subj: Need idea's                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On Apr 28 17:13 94, Ken Short of 1:134/3200 wrote:

 KS> testing...ARRRGGHHH... Oh well...Now i need some idea's on what i should
 KS> do to hook a dos box to my OS/2 bbs machine...IE  what is a good package
 KS> to hook the 2 machines...

   Unless you're eager to spend money :-) the cheapest way to do it is to
simply use a null modem between the two machines and to run a comm program on
each end to send and recieve the files.  At about $5 for a serial cable, the
null modem's by far the cheapest way to go.

   As far as other things to worry about, grab a copy of PCFU from your
\SkyData\Personal directory and set it up.  It's worth its weight in gold.
It'll keep you from going insane worrying about dupes and files that don't have
*.TICs and such.  A very nifty program!
.
Randy                                 BBS [phone] (V.FC)
FidoNet 1:325/806 1:325/805           InterNet [e-mail]

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From: STEVE ADAIR                            Number: 711
  To: BRIAN HESS                               Date: 05/02/94  9:09p
Subj: re: Another Link test <g>               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

<<Quoting: BRIAN HESS   To: STEVE ADAIR >>


BH> Hello Steve!

BH> Tuesday April 26 1994 22:56, Steve Adair wrote to All:

BH> SA> Hi Folks,

BH> SA> Well this seems to be the place for all us newbies to test our
BH> SA> return links onto the Satellite.  Anybody hear me??  Thanks!

BH>Yes we hear you accross town <G>

Hi Brian,

Yes, my message had to go 52,000+ miles just to go across the street <g>.
Thanks for the reply.

BH> * Origin: StarBase 8 [phone] Taylors, SC (1:3639/19)

God bless.


In Christ, Steve <[e-mail]>
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From: DEAN LAKE                              Number: 712
  To: BILL STARR                               Date: 05/02/94  4:44p
Subj: unused echomail msgs w/WildCat          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BS} 1st - I am runnig Wildcat 3.90Multinode but only one active node and the
BS}       second is a local. Use Front Door and GoMail as tosser. 486/66
BS}       with 2 gig h/d and 16meg ram.
BS} Now - How do I kill the echo messages that are not being utilitzed on
BS}       my board. Right now they are being tossed into BADMSG dir?
BS}       Is there some way I can NUL or NIL them out so they wont get
BS}       tossed just dumped into the trash can?

One way is to put all the echo areas in your AREAS.BBS.  Set the
echo's you don't wish to carry as PASSTHROUGH's with no fowarding
nodes.  In other words, the line in your AREAS.BBS for each echo
you don't want should read:

P   <ECHO NAME>  1:3615/50

You are telling GoMail that <ECHO NAME> is a passthrough, and the
only connected system is Planet Connect.

You can get the latest copy of FIDONET.NA and do a little
creative editing to make this huge AREAS.BBS -- will probably
save you some typing that way.

Dean

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From: GEORGE LAFRENIERE                      Number: 713
  To: CRAIG CLARK                              Date: 05/02/94  8:30a
Subj: Family Net                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> It's still being sent, but sometimes several days will go by without
-> bundles then you will get three or four days worth in one day.  I thi
-> FamilyNet heads are working at smoothing out the flow.

      Yes! Your right, I got more than a weeks worth a couple of days
ago. I was getting concerned because the filebone.na lists them as not
being on the sat at all. Everything is still relatively new so it
takes a little time. Thanks for the reply.

                                       George


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From: FOXY FERGUSON                          Number: 714
  To: TIM LAJOIE                               Date: 05/02/94 12:07p
Subj: Link Test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TL>-> Picked up Novell DOS 7.0 a few weeks back, added some LAN cards and
TL>-> DESQview/X 2.0, and I am one very *HAPPY* camper!

TL>    How much did the upgrade cost?

Yo, Tim!

The Novell DOS 7 purchase was $99 and included the Personal Netware
software installable for all three machines. We upgraded from DesqView
"classic" 1.something to DESQview/X v2.0 for $150... and worth *every*
penny for both!

Cheers, Foxy.

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From: MICKEY FERGUSON                        Number: 715
  To: FOXY FERGUSON                            Date: 05/02/94 11:52p
Subj: Link Test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to Tim Lajoie, Foxy Ferguson said:

FF>TL>    How much did the upgrade cost?
FF>The Novell DOS 7 purchase was $99 and included the Personal
FF>Netware
BZZZZZT! It actually cost $78 at Franklin Micro. The list price is $99.

FF>We upgraded from DesqView
FF>"classic" 1.something to DESQview/X v2.0 for $150... and

Wrong again, love. We upgraded from DV 2.6
<G>

FF>worth *every* penny for both!

I'll second that!  The Planet Connect software is _mucho_ happier running
under DV/X than under DV ! And DV/X is its own server & hooks into the Novell
IPX/ODI drivers.

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From: ELVIS HARGROVE                         Number: 716
  To: N.L. HARGROVE                            Date: 05/01/94 11:46p
Subj: netmail                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*@ORIGIN :BOO!  Board Of Occult  McAllen Tx.                          N
-> Anyway how's things there, lots of mail.

Well, things here is confused!  We've been on the bird for two months and STILL
haven't gotten our "outgoing" back to /50 to work.

As of this weekend several of the local sysops have spent practically every
afternoon browbeating the hub machines into working.  So far no joy.  Even when
we 'force' a connect /50 won't talk to us.

Ah, the joys of FIDO!

^..^
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From: TOM TCIMPIDIS                          Number: 717
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 04/29/94 10:18a
Subj: Big files!                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BGThere were a few Big files that went over the sat Sunday. If you never BGgot
them then I have them here for file request. The CTM0005.ZIP BGfile is not
going over the sat since it is over 2 megs and you BGcan get it from here.

Huh?  Big files are what the satellite is best at (cost-wise).  Why don't you
send them that way?
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From: TOM TCIMPIDIS                          Number: 718
  To: KIM BERGMAN                              Date: 04/29/94 10:22a
Subj: Dongle and os/2                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KBRight now the speculation is that a few OS/2 gurus have cracked the
KBsecurity in your dongle/software and are using your product in KBan
"irregular" (don't want to say "illegal" <g>) way.  We KBfurther speculate that
Planet Connect doesn't care if the KBsecurity has been cracked as long as these
hackers pay for the KBservice they get (the only decent thing to do) and don't
pass KBthe hack on to other people.  And that is why we haven't heard

I can't go into specifics but I know this to be true.

KBthat almost 1/3 of your subscribers are OS/2 users.  Do you KBreally have
that many OS/2 users signed up?  And is there a KBnative OS/2 version under
development?  Any tentative release date?

I'm both a Dos/DV and an OS/2 user myself.  I'd very much welcome a
"sanctioned" OS/2 version as well as a much better Desqview version.
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From: TOM TCIMPIDIS                          Number: 719
  To: JASON BAGINSKI                           Date: 04/29/94 10:29a
Subj: Re: need a guru                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JB DL>version 4 is going into Beta test shortly.  I understand that JB DL>WC's
version 4 message base file structure has changed radically.

JBKnow if they are going to release the specs?

The new file and record structures have already been released. Basically, they
went from a database based message system to a flat file based message system.
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From: MARK ADKINS                            Number: 720
  To: CHRIS BATES                              Date: 05/01/94  9:46p
Subj: Pc & desqview                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> recommended! I have ran both, and DESQview seems to be the
-> overall better package, because it IS NOT graphical, and
-> therefore runs a little faster!  Also, regular DESQview is half the
-> price of /X!  Hope this helps, and sorry to but in!

Thanks a lot for the information. I need the speed more than the graphics.

Mark

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From: RAY SNOW                               Number: 721
  To: JON ANDERSON                             Date: 04/30/94  7:46p
Subj: Rime and pconn                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JA>This includes PC recoding some ware (which will take some weeks) , an
JA>Rime doing several uploads to PC daily.. In turn, PC will add all new
JA>mail to 'later broadcasts' of that day's packets ... In other words,
JA>when new stuff is sent in to PC, they'll add it/update the packets
JA>immediately ...  For a period of some weeks, they've agreed to a plan
JA>of coordinated actions that will help/cure the problem, ...

JA>I hope I've paraphrased satisfactorily what i recall of what i read..

From what I just read also, that probably says it pretty much in a nutshell.


JA>We should thank both parties for working together on this...

Yes! I definitely agree.
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From: STEVE UTICK                            Number: 722
  To: RICK EDWARDS                             Date: 04/30/94  8:10p
Subj: Quiet                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RE=}SU>RE=}This conference has been awfully quiet lately. Has no one been sendi
  =}  >  =}messages or is the config messed up at the BBS I call?

RE=}SU>Well, if it is messed up on yours, it is messed up on mine too.  I think
  =}  >I have only seen about 10 messages in here in the two weeks I have had
  =}  >RIME up and running!  Do you know if Planet Connect even monitors this
  =}  >conference at all?  As far as I know, I haven't seen any messages from
  =}  >anyone there in here.

RE=}When this conference first started, one could almost count on at least
  =}30 messages a day. The past couple of weeks.....nada.   This morning,
  =}along with your message, there are 322 messages.....all in a 24 hour
  =}period.

RE=}Something got "unstuck."

Actually, no.  I heard what happened the other day.  Someone was bridging this
conference over to another network, and the Net coordinator changed.  He hadn't
gotten permission from them to continue bridging the conference till the other
day.

                                Steve
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From: JOE LYDA                               Number: 723
  To: BILL STARR                               Date: 05/02/94  3:36p
Subj: Link Test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Bill!

BS> 1st - I am runnig Wildcat 3.90Multinode but only one active node and the
BS>       second is a local. Use Front Door and GoMail as tosser. 486/66
BS>       with 2 gig h/d and 16meg ram.

BS> Now - How do I kill the echo messages that are not being utilitzed on
BS>       my board. Right now they are being tossed into BADMSG dir?
BS>       Is there some way I can NUL or NIL them out so they wont get
BS>       tossed just dumped into the trash can?

Bill you need areafix and let it auto create new echo's in your
areas.bbs file.  Or you could take all the Fidonet.na,
Fidonet.no, K12frwy listings and put all them in the areas.bbs
file like this.

P  Unwanted_AREA_NAME    1:3615/50
P  Unwanted_Area_Name    1:3615/50
2  Area_mane_you_want    1:3615/50

Etc.

If you like I will zip up a complete areas.bbs and Areafix that I
use and you can freq it along with a sample batch file to run FD,
Gomail and Areafix as I have the same setup running here.

Another option would be call Mike Ortez BBS (The Software
Connection) and look for the Gomail.exe made for Planet Connect
that auto vaporizes them.  Haven't use that copy of gomail but
Mike added code to auto trashcan the unwanted stuff in the same
way it trascan's dup messages if you togle that option to not
keep them. Keep you orgional copy of gomail though as you might
need it and go the route I have taken with areafix.  I prefer
using areafix because I can simply replace the "P" with a area
number and turn on or off echo's at will without looking up the
area names and typing them in here plus areafix allows local
nodes to turn on or off at will the areas they want also without
my intervention in any way since I hub out to the rest of the net
here.

Joe

PS Let me know if you want the setup I am using and I will make
it freq availible.

 * WCE 1.5/2107 * Is this yours? Your dog left it on my lawn ...

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From: SIKKO DE GRAAF                         Number: 724
  To: JOHNNY GREEN                             Date: 05/01/94 11:50a
Subj: Planet connect in Europe??              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hello johnny

thanks for your information

Can you give me your company voice nr: so we can call you for some more
information and questions?..

greetings Sikko de Graaf

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From: CHUCK WARREN                           Number: 725
  To: CHRIS BATES                              Date: 05/02/94  7:12a
Subj: Is It Me????                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CB->Just to throw in my ten cents here, I always got 1600 to 1700 CPS rates wit
CB->14.4's, and I now get 3300 and up to 3600 CPS rates with my new 28.8's!  If
CB->make many "file Requests" from them, it is worth the $140 for a new 28.8!

    Which brand/model is this you're using?

    Chuck


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From: GEORGE HANNAH                          Number: 726
  To: JEFF CUTLER                              Date: 05/02/94 12:43p
Subj: Re: netmail                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jeff Cutler to John Little <=-

 JC> Here in region 12 there was a big brawl over that discusion.  From
 JC> what I could see the agreement was NEC's are responsible for inbound
 JC> netmail coming to me, but he/she is not have to route my outbound

 That's right, only it's the NC. The NEC isn't really mentioned in
 policy, except to say that there is an echomail policy document
 covering the duties of *ECs. If you really want to route outbound
 netmail, you can route through your regional, at a cost of only a
 few cents a week. In fact, if there are others in your net that the
 NC won't route for, you can also route their mail and share the
 cost.



... Inflation is a result of legalized counterfeiting.
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From: MARK ADKINS                            Number: 727
  To: MICKEY FERGUSON                          Date: 05/03/94  5:39a
Subj: Pc & desqview                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Well, DV-Classic is the DV you're accustomed to.  I believe it is up
-> to version 2.6? these days.  DV/X is an X-windows server/client with
-> a much more pleasing user interface.  Plain old DV is rather LAN dumb
-> while DV/X is designed to wring every bit of performance it can from
-> a LAN. DV/X is also better at high speed serial I/O.

I'm running LANtastic 5.0 on Intel Ethernet Express16 cards, 5 nodes. I'm going
to be upgrading to LANtastic 6.0. I've tried DV 2.6? and things seemed a bit
slow. Would DV/X speed things up?

I'm working on a project that will be on a 486DX2 66 VESA with an 8 port Arnet
card and six nodes running PCBoard. I'll need Desqview to manage this. I've run
four nodes on one machine with Desqview but never 6. I was told by a few that
it won't work, DOS can't seem to handle more than four comm sessions at one
time.

Would you (or anyone else reading this) know anything about this? I could go
OS/2 and run PCBoard as a DOS Session but I don't think this would be much
difference than non-OS/2 because it's still a DOS session.

Thank for the info that you supplyed Mickey,

Mark

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From: CHRIS VON MOTZ                         Number: 728
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 05/02/94  9:32a
Subj: Re: quiet                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Its all working fine here Boyd ,

Thanks for th confirm.

Be on FIDO soon , have the front-end up and running now for tests around the
clock , and the rest will follow soon.

TTYL,

Chris.
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 * The Flying Dutchman,San Jose,Ca.[phone],V.32bis.4 NODES
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From: CHRIS VON MOTZ                         Number: 729
  To: MARK ADKINS                              Date: 05/02/94  9:43a
Subj: Planet connect conference               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Sure will Chris. I'll R/O-R the number in NetAdmin.

Thanks Mark , I got it and will call Ya soon. The mailer is up and running fine
for tests , and the rest will follow soon now.

-> Anytime and nice to have everyone here.

Well ,this is the place where the forerunners of tech. meet.

And also the headquarters from the ANTI-AT&T LD Guerilla army. Grin.

Thanks for your post.

Chris.
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From: STEVE GORDON                           Number: 730
  To: ALL                                      Date: 04/29/94  6:47p
Subj: Mexico - contacts needed                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am a business professional in New York and am expanding a division of the
fastest U.S. growth company this decade into Mexico with various product lines
including personal and health care.  High residual income opportunity for
individuals with strong contacts in Mexico.  For more information call
800-546-0177 (USA only) or reply via E-MAIL to [e-mail]  (this is not
AMWAY).
===
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From: JON ANDERSON                           Number: 731
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 05/01/94 11:30a
Subj: Os/2 dongle progress??                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Boyd ..have been encouraged by notices of beta for os/2 ... any progress??

the dish is still in the box, where it's been since it arrived months ago...

jon
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From: TIM LAJOIE                             Number: 732
  To: FOXY FERGUSON                            Date: 05/03/94  3:34p
Subj: Link Test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> The Novell DOS 7 purchase was $99 and included the Personal Netware
-> software installable for all three machines. We upgraded from DesqVie
-> "classic" 1.something to DESQview/X v2.0 for $150... and worth *every
-> penny for both!

    Thanks Foxy. I have a bouht and paid for version of BOTH DV 386 and
DVX, so I was hoping to find out the price to upgrade from my old DVX to
the new DVX 2.0. Any idea?


Cheers!
Tim Lajoie,
[e-mail]
SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net


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From: JOHN BURTON                            Number: 733
  To: GARY RYNO                                Date: 05/03/94  5:15a
Subj: RA/FD/TICK                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >> Is there any way that I am missing to automatically set the message as
 >> KILL/SENT?

 > Tick is a good program, but by contemporary standards it's become dated
 > and very limited compared to some of its alternatives.  Frankly, I'd
 > suggest that you just switch to Allfix and be done with it.  Speaking as
 > a veteran of several years on the Tick beta team, Allfix is a far
 > superior and more capable program in every respect.

In your TIC.CFG

MAILERKILLS
  will make the mailer kill the files when no longer needed.

any message generated by TICK defaults to the KILL/SENT flag, tho you can put
the crash on it if you wish..


                                --==jb==--

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From: RUSS GOFF                              Number: 734
  To:                                          Date: 05/03/94  9:19a
Subj:                                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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From: CRAIG CLARK                            Number: 735
  To: KEN KAVANAGH                             Date: 05/03/94  6:23p
Subj: Hobbies Echo                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Ken Kavanagh to Dave Petrucci <=-

 KK> you can  get it..of  course..but not from PC.   shrug...silly is all I
 KK> can say.

I'm getting it from PC!  It's in the FamilyNet mail bundles.

-=- Craig.

... Don't hit me, Mr. Moderator... I'll go back on topic... I swear!
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From: BILL CLARK                             Number: 736
  To: RANDY EDWARDS                            Date: 05/03/94  9:39p
Subj: Hobbies Echo                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a msg on <Apr 30 07:33>, Randy Edwards of 1:325/806 writes:

 KK> Boyd may wish to clairify but I do beleive it was stated a few
 KK> weeks ago or more that the Hobbies echo doesn't ??want?? to be
 KK> distributed by satellite Most rediculous if I may say so myself  :)
 KK>

 RE>    Yes, I'd agree.  There are plenty of echo moderators who want to keep
 RE> a tight control on their echos, and many of them with good reason (for
 RE> example, an echo for recovering alcoholics might want to double-ensure
 RE> that twits aren't filling the echo with the joys of drinking).

 RE>    But the traditional way that these echos are dealt with is that
 RE> they're removed from the backbone.  Putting an echo on the backbone is,
 RE> IMHO, pretty much an agreement that you're willing to let anyone link
 RE> into it by default and will only "cull" the problem nodes when/if they
 RE> become problems.

Not having the HOBBIES echo distributed in the FidoNet mail packets over the
satellite was not the decision of the HOBBIES echo moderator.  The HOBBIES echo
moderator is Harvey Smith, 1:100/519 who is dual-netted in FamilyNet.  The
HOBBIES echo is a FamilyNet echo, and is gated to FidoNet by Bob Hoffman, the
FamilyNet head.  Bob Hoffman requested John Souvestre at 1:396/1, the Southern
Star, not to send the HOBBIES traffic in FidoNet to Planet Systems uplink node,
1:3615/50 since the HOBBIES echo is already distributed over the satellite in
the FamilyNet QWK mail packets.  Hoffman also requested Planet Systems not to
distribute or accept traffic in the HOBBIES echo except in those FamilyNet QWK
mail packets.

When Harvey Smith, the moderator of HOBBIES, was apprised of Hoffman's
decision, he was NOT happy.  In effect, Hoffman's decision removed the HOBBIES
echo from five nodes in Harvey's own FidoNet Net, Net 100, since Net 100 now
gets is traffic via Planet Connect.  The only way those Net 100 addresses can
get traffic on the FidoNet side in the HOBBIES echo is to call via long
distance telephone line to a Region 14 Echomail Hub that gets its traffic via
landline and pick up the traffic (and deliver outgoing via the same method).
That is unacceptable to them, and as NEC for Net 100, having to call a Region
14 echomail hub long distance to pickup and deliver traffic in HOBBIES is also
unacceptable to me and counter to the reason we in Net 100 went to Planet
Connect to begin with.  In the last correspondence I had with Harvey Smith
about the situation, Harvey was considering yanking the HOBBIES echo out of
FamilyNet and making it a FidoNet originated echo, which would result in its
traffic again appearing over the satellite.

Ah....the games people play....

:-)  Bill, N100EC

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From: BILL STARR                             Number: 737
  To: JACK WILLIAMS                            Date: 05/03/94  6:10p
Subj: Re: Link Test                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> In a message to KEN FLORY <04-30-94 11:05> BILL STARR wrote:
->
-> BS> Now - How do I kill the echo messages that are not being utilitze
-> BS>       my board. Right now they are being tossed into BADMSG dir?
->
-> Hi, Bill. I have written some software that extracts what your board
-> from the message packets. If you are interested, please let me know.
->
-> Regards, Jack
->
Jack,
I sure am interested in any program that will help me. I have a 486/66
with a 2 gig hard drive and 16 meg ram. I also have a 256 cache. The 2
gig hard drive is divided into 2 1 gig drives. I run front door 2.02 and
gomail as a tosser into Wildcat 3.90 multinode. I am using node 1 as the
BBS and have node 2 netted into a 386/40 with a 375m hard drive as a
local.
When I get the mail I usually manually copy from C:\bridge\files to
D:\fidohold. Then I have to copy back 2 files at a time into the
C:\bridge\files area to gomail toss. This is very time consuming.
Any help, being only on the computer since late 1992 and still
learning, would really be appreciated.

Bill

P.S. I noticed today (3 May) that the bird took lots of hits on the 2nd
go around. I was watching the visual on the channel (Shop at Home) and
saw them and run to the computer and sure enough the packet that was
coming in had a TCB. Must be a better satellite to use.

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From: JASON BAGINSKI                         Number: 738
  To: TOM TCIMPIDIS                            Date: 05/03/94 10:35a
Subj: Re: need a guru                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 TT>The new file and record structures have already been released.
 TT>Basically, they went from a database based message system to a flat
 TT>file based message system.

Where are these specs available?  Are they going to be hatched out an FDN?

--- ><bbs/}{edEd 1.19\NX
 * Origin: ?,Jason Baginski,9187494139,Tulsa,OK (1:170/906)
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From: DARR HOAG                              Number: 739
  To: GARY RYNO                                Date: 05/03/94 12:46p
Subj: RA/FD/TICK                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*** Quoting Gary Ryno to Gary Barr dated 05-01-94 ***
> Unfortunately, Tick doesn't have del/sent capability.  If even Tick did
> support that flag, there's a serious problem using this particular
> technique, however: if you happen to be routing the same file to more
> than one downlink, the first time you transmit it, del/sent will delete
> it, and any other downlinks won't get it at all; just a null file
> attach message with nothing actually attached to it.

Apparently you've never used Tick....

Local Passthrough

in an area block will most-certainly do what he wants, for that area.
It does _not_ delete the file until all attaches for that file have been sent.

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From: LEE BONNIFIELD                         Number: 740
  To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY                          Date: 05/04/94  6:50a
Subj: Re: Feeds                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

John answered Mac Bryant:

  MB>   I signed up as a non-feeding node with Planet Connect. Now a
  MB>   sysop nearby (in another state) wants to poll Fido from me.
  MB>   What is the charge for adding this. Seems like I remember
  MB>   something about $10 per
  MB>   month? And what does that include? The filebone too?

 JH> Hi, Mac.  The additional $10.00 includes ANYTHING that you want to send
 JH> the other node(s), as long as you are already receiving it via Planet
 JH> Connect.

I hope you meant "ANYTHING from Fido".

I lost your post about 701 / 703 exit problems, but you had them
backwards - 701 is the exit after the FDNs, and 703 is the exit after
the Fido mail. See \SKYDATA\SKYINFO\PCINFO.TXT .

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From: LEE BONNIFIELD                         Number: 741
  To: MAC BRYANT                               Date: 05/04/94  6:51a
Subj: Re: feeds                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Did John Hrusovszky mislead Mac?

  JH> Hi, Mac.  The additional $10.00 includes ANYTHING that you want to send
  JH> the other node(s), as long as you are already receiving it via Planet
  JH> Connect.

 MB> Thanks, John. I've forwarded the message along. Will let you guys
 MB> know.

The $10 includes your right to hub the entire Fido backbone FIDONET.NA
and also FIDONET.NO and as much of the Fido filebone as you get from
Planet Connect; but there are additional restrictions on some of the
other services from elsewhere, eg Author Direct, weather, TV listings,
PCSITES.

--- PPoint 1.80
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From: JOHN LUNDELL                           Number: 742
  To: ERIC KRICHBAUM                           Date: 05/04/94 12:09a
Subj: Re: Satellite Reciever Fo               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Is this the Ku band or C band receiver?

was a Ku.. sold now sorry.

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From: CHRIS ROSS                             Number: 743
  To: GREG ROSLER                              Date: 05/01/94  5:59p
Subj: Re: Reply...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >Well, you made it here with no problem. Got your message just fine!

       Good, then you can let me know if you get mine as well ;).

 Chris

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From: STEVE ADAIR                            Number: 744
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 05/04/94  6:40p
Subj: InterNet Mail delays??                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Boyd,

I have waited awhile before I wrote to you on this... the InterNet newsgroups
are OLD when we get them... todays (5/4/94) messages are dated from from 4/28
to 4/29!!!  These messages are 5 to 6 days old!  Is this temporary??  Putting
up messages that are almost a week behind is NOT worth the time it takes...
let alone the money <g>.


In Christ, Steve <[e-mail]>
==========================================================================
Jude 23 Ministries/The Firehouse bbs (803)-322-6822  FamilyNet 8:1011/0
[e-mail] "And others save with fear, pulling [them] out of the
fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh." (Jude 1:23)
==========================================================================


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From: ANDY VICKERS                           Number: 745
  To: STEVE GORDON                             Date: 05/04/94  7:13p
Subj: Mexico - contacts needed                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


* In a message originally to All, Steve Gordon said:

 > I am a business professional in New York and am expanding a
 > division of the fastest U.S. growth company this decade into
 > Mexico with various product lines including personal and
 > health care.  High residual income opportunity for
 > individuals with strong contacts in Mexico.  For more
 > information call 800-546-0177 (USA only) or reply via E-MAIL
 > to [e-mail]  (this is not AMWAY).

I think this is a Planet Connect Support Echo, and related topics the last time
I looked. Did I miss something that was said with a PC Related topics here.
Please take your sales somewhere else.

Andy Vickers
Vice President
D.D.S. & R. Inc.



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From: MIKE BELUE                             Number: 746
  To: CHRIS BATES                              Date: 05/03/94 11:51p
Subj: Is It Me????                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CB>Just to throw in my ten cents here, I always got 1600 to 1700 CPS rates with
CB>14.4's, and I now get 3300 and up to 3600 CPS rates with my new 28.8's!  If
CB>make many "file Requests" from them, it is worth the $140 for a new 28.8!

Chris,

     I just got mine today.  Would you mind sharing your NVRAM settings?

               > Mike <                Tue, 05-03-94

 * DeLuxe2/386 1.25 #6075 * I may work slow, but I do poor work


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From: BILL STARR                             Number: 747
  To: JOHN ROBINSON                            Date: 05/04/94  5:19p
Subj: Link Test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Hello There Bill!
->
-> In a message to Ken Flory on <04/30/94> Bill Starr said the following
->
-> BS>       my board. Right now they are being tossed into BADMSG dir?
-> BS>       Is there some way I can NUL or NIL them out so they wont ge
-> BS>       tossed just dumped into the trash can?
->
-> Get ahold of Mike Ortiz, Bill.. He wrote a version of Gomail that
-> will do just that... I ran it the first night I got it and let me tel
-> you, That sucker is FAST.!  Just like Gomail.!
->
->
-> John R.
->
->  * WCE 1.5/2035 * Just Another Happy Wildcat Sysop..1:138/173
->
John,
That is what I am running. Ver 1.1 and I am confused with what it says.
I have been told that you can use the AREAS.BBS file and make it a
complete nodelist.na and then just do the following for the lines that I
do not carry:

101 12_STEPS                   ; 12 Steps Discussion
P 4DOS             1:3615/50   ; 4DOS Echo
102 ABLENEWS                   ; Disability/medical news, views, etc.
P ABORTION         1:3615/50   ; Abortion Discussion
P ADAM             1:309/27    ; Adam Computer Conf.
         (The line P ADAM  1:309/27 is a passon as I hub to another)

Is this correct? I sure do appreciate the assistance.

Bill

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From: JUSTIN MCDERMID                        Number: 748
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/04/94  3:38p
Subj: PC system wanted                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Just wondering if anyone was considering selling off their planet connect
receiver and/or system?

I have been thinking about getting into one of my own and would like to find
the best deal to do so.

Thanks.

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From: JOHN DONOHUE                           Number: 749
  To: BILL STARR                               Date: 05/03/94  6:48a
Subj: Re: Link Test                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BS>Now - How do I kill the echo messages that are not being utilitzed on
BS>      my board. Right now they are being tossed into BADMSG dir?
BS>      Is there some way I can NUL or NIL them out so they wont get
BS>      tossed just dumped into the trash can?
I'm not familiar with GoMail; but with Squish, we declare BadArea and
DupeArea as pass-thru areas. Sends those messages right into the bit
bucket.



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From: NATE CHASE                             Number: 750
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/01/94  1:06p
Subj: Lightning arrestor                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

       In a Message to STEVE ADAIR
       on 04-28-94 (18:00) in Conference (458) PlanetConn
       regarding SAT COMPUTER SHOW

       JIM DUNMYER wrote...

 JD>The coax cable can act as an antenna and pick up a pretty good voltage
 JD>spike, even if the lightning hits only "close by". This spike
 JD>can fry your receiver or LNB, or perhaps other connected
 JD>equipment. They suggest that you install a lightning arrestor
 JD>device in the coax; it can be bought from the Planet Connect
 JD>folks or probably any local satellite dealer.


Boyd (et all),
        Whats the price of your Arrestor and is it guarenteed?


                                                        Nate

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From: BOB MORTIMER                           Number: 751
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 05/01/94  1:43p
Subj: Account                                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

JH=>Not meaning to butt in here, but the same thing happened to me.
  =>I was told that they would make the difference up at the end of the
  =>sub. I lost 4 days when I renewed.
  =>If you look at 3 months vs. 1/4 year, PC is going to come out ahead.
  =>12 months at 30 days per month = 360 days, 5 days short of a full year..

Mistakes happen! I have had confirmation from Boyd that it will be looked into
upon my next call.

thanks for the message.


 * OLX 1.52 * The only dumb question is the one that is not asked.
===
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From: CRAIG CLARK                            Number: 752
  To: BILL CLARK                               Date: 05/04/94 10:03p
Subj: Hobbies Echo                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Bill Clark wrote in a message to Randy Edwards:

BC> The HOBBIES echo is a FamilyNet echo, and is gated to
BC> FidoNet by Bob Hoffman, the FamilyNet head.  Bob Hoffman
BC> requested John Souvestre at 1:396/1, the Southern Star, not
BC> to send the HOBBIES traffic in FidoNet to Planet Systems
BC> uplink node, 1:3615/50 since the HOBBIES echo is already
BC> distributed over the satellite in the FamilyNet QWK mail
BC> packets.  Hoffman also requested Planet Systems not to
BC> distribute or accept traffic in the HOBBIES echo except in
BC> those FamilyNet QWK mail packets.

It's not in QWK format - it's in FTSC type packets (just like the Fido stuff).
Only 'gotcha' is that replies must go directly back to Bob Hoffman at 8:8/0 in
FamilyNet.  You don't have to join FamilyNet though.

-=- Craig.

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From: KIM BERGMAN                            Number: 753
  To: KEN SHORT                                Date: 05/04/94 10:18p
Subj: Need idea's                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Ken,

Regarding your message to All .....
 KS> Hi all, well I have just jumped on the Planet Connect Band
 KS> wagon...I was holding off until they got an OS/2 fix, but have just been
 KS> told they are having probs with the new dongle, they are beta
 KS> testing...ARRRGGHHH... Oh well...Now i
 KS> need some idea's on what i should do to hook a dos box to my
 KS> OS/2 bbs machine...IE  what is a good package to hook the 2
 KS> machines...

I'm same as you ..... hooked on OS/2 and waiting for a dongle.  I have my DOS
box listening to the dish and connected to the BBS machine via a null modem
cable.  I send the files across at 115200 with GSZ, a dosser but it runs ok
under OS/2.  I messed with Hydracom for a bit because there are both DOS and
OS/2 versions and it might work with a bit more fiddling but GSZ started
working for me first so I stayed with it.  OK, here's the whole ball o' wax,
cable, software, batch files, etc.

Null modem cables are cheap but if you really want to go cheap and have a spare
modem cable hanging around then modify it into a null modem cable.  I did and
it works.  Here's the connections .....

    2 ------ 3
    3 ------ 2
    4 ------ 5
    5 ------ 4
    6&8 ---- 20
    20 ----- 6&8

I recommend soldering any wire wrapped joints you have to make and to verify
the cable with an ohm meter or some sort of continuity checker to be sure that
the connections are right. It's nice to know beforehand that the job is done
right.  Wrong connections might fry your serial port.  Also, if the setup
doesn't work then you'll be wondering if it's the cable that's wrong or your
software.

GSZ runs fine for me out of an OS/2 batch (.cmd) file.  The OS/2 command
interpreter opens the DOS session automatically (have a hunch 4OS2 can't do
that) and I didn't have to mess with the DOS session settings at all.

Here's the OS/2 batch file ........

:start
d:
cd \bink\net
gsz port 2 speed 115200 d t -T
cd \bink
call mailproc.cmd
goto start

Gsz dumps inbound data into the current directory so I switch to my mailer's
inbound dir before starting gsz which is on the path. The command line
parameters and switches to gsz are case sensitive and the spaces you see are
required.  The "d" makes it ignore carrier detect, "t" I can't remember, turbo
or something like that, "-T" is to make it wait until a caller (the DOS box)
signals the end of a transfer session.

Mailproc.cmd calls squishp.exe to toss the mail, ticp.exe to process the tics
and seal.exe to announce new files.  When it's done gsz fires up and waits.   I
should probably use wait.exe to stall invoking gsz but the rotation schedule PC
is on seems to be highly irregular so I'm not sure when I would have wait fire
up gsz.  Oh well, gsz doesn't seem to use much processor time when it's waiting
so it'll do for now.

I'll give you qwkndrty.bat for the DOS box in the next message.


Kim






A way of telling
 KS> my bbs machine to toos the planet connect stuff...and ANY
 KS> other info you think
 KS> is helpful....Thanks in advance...
 KS>                              Have a gooder.
 KS>                              Ken Short 1:134/3200 Fido
 KS> -!- Synchronet
 KS>  ! Origin: Digital Online Connection [phone]
 KS> (1:134/3200)
 KS> @PATH: 134/3200 1 10 3615/50



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From: KIM BERGMAN                            Number: 754
  To: KEN SHORT                                Date: 05/04/94 10:49p
Subj: qwkndrty.bat                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

(continued from previous message)

This batch file will log satellite events to your printer.  If you have a file
called cr.txt consisting of a single carriage return in your current dir it
will even log the times these events occur.  Deluxe, huh?  Nah!  Deluxe is
doing this all on one machine under OS/2!!!  Oh Boyd ....


echo ***************    Start qwkndrty.bat   **************** > lpt1
echo ***************    ver. 27/04/94    **************** > lpt1
date > lpt1 < cr.txt
time > lpt1 < cr.txt
:start
echo. > lpt1
d:
cd \planetc
echo Start ptccmain.exe > lpt1
ptccmain
echo Done ptccmain.exe > lpt1
date > lpt1 < cr.txt
time > lpt1 < cr.txt
if errorlevel 104 goto unknown
if errorlevel 103 goto fidodone   rem   exit from topic 703 in ptccmain.ini
if errorlevel 100 goto endrot     rem   exit from topic 700 in ptccmain.ini
if errorlevel 9 goto exit          rem   keyboard exit
if errorlevel 0 goto exit          rem   normal exit from ptccmain if no
"topics" defined in
                                   rem   ptccmain.ini

:unknown
echo Unknown errorlevel from ptccmain. > lpt1
goto start

:fidodone
echo Fido done. > lpt1
goto start

:endrot
echo End of rotation. > lpt1
if exist d:\planetc\flags\wait.txt goto wait
echo This is a flag file used by pcgo.bat, do not delete. >
d:\planetc\flags\wait.txt
pcutil check1
if exist d:\fido\*.* goto gszsend
echo Inbound directory is empty, gsz transfer not required. > lpt1
goto start

:gszsend
echo Start gsz transfer. > lpt1
time > lpt1 < cr.txt
gsz port 2 speed 115200 d sz -r -m -n d:\fido\*.*
if errorlevel 1 goto gszerr1
echo Gsz transfer successful. > lpt1
time > lpt1 < cr.txt
goto start

:wait
echo Deleting wait flag. > lpt1
del d:\planetc\flags\wait.txt
goto start

:gszerr1
echo Gsz transfer had undetermined errors. > lpt1
call  razzboyd.cmd
goto start

:exit
echo ************   End qwkndrty.bat.  *************** > lpt1


What does this mess do?  I'll start at the end and sort of back into it.  The
razzboyd.cmd is a little Rexx thingy I wrote that puts a message to Boyd in my
netmail area.  The message says "Hey Boyd, how's that OS/2 dongle coming
along?"  Since gsz hasn't failed me since adding that feature, Boyd hasn't
received netmail from me.  Geez, I wish it would fail once in a while :)

Well, I wanted to keep track of the rotation times that Planet Connect uses.
AYPK, a rotation is one complete dump of *all* files, Fido, Usenet, etc.  I
like to transfer at the end of a rotation because some good stuff is repeated
after the Fido files come down and before Usenet starts.  By using "pcutil
check1"  I don't transfer any repeated files, just the stuff new for the day so
the transfer is quick and I start receiving again before Fido stuff is
transmitted.  I suppose I could run the transfer in the background and receive
continuous but that would require Desqview and I'm too cheap for that.

I also wanted to schedule my GSZ transfers at night.  At first I thought there
was only 2 rotations per day so the wait.txt file that the batch file
alternately writes and deletes was supposed to be a flag that tells the batch
"don't send now, wait until the next rotation".  Turns out there are three
rotations so the idea doesn't work as I originally intended but they happen
during slow hours so it's not bad.  Adding another wait flag would stall the
transfer until after 5 AM for me but the rotation times have become so
irregular that I just let them happen.  Can't fight progess, know what I mean?

You'll notice that I'm using pcutil to delete repeated files.  Pcfu is a
similar, reportedly better program by the same author and I'll be switching it
in tonight.  Well, maybe instead I'll use the time to write a pcfu clone in
Rexx for us OS/2 people.

D:\fido is the directory my Fido files go into off the dish, you can configure
that as you please in a_config.sky.  I'm sure you'll figure out the rest.

I know my setup could be better but what the heck ... it's temporary.  Works
pretty good though and gives me about 7000 cps transfer rates between the 2
machines even with somebody downloading off the BBS at 14.4.  When they play
BRE though it slows the tansfer right down to 2000 and I can't figure why,
maybe you can?  Twiddling DOS session settings doesn't seem to help.

I have 16550 uarts on both ends although I was using 16450 on the DOS box at
first and getting very few block retrys and just about 7000 cps rates. Again,
the gsz command line is case and space critical.  The switches I'm using invoke
GSZ's crash recovery mode.  Without that the transfer will die on the first
file that already exists in the receiving directory.

Another cheap method uses the parallel port for transfers which is probably
even faster than what I'm doing now.  The software you need for this method
comes on disk with Dvorak's book "PC Connectivity" which details the method
completely, so I've been told.

Questions and suggestions welcome.

Kim



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From: KIM BERGMAN                            Number: 755
  To: TOM TCIMPIDIS                            Date: 05/04/94  9:45p
Subj: Dongle and os/2                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Tom,

 TT> KBRight now the speculation is that a few OS/2 gurus have
 TT> cracked the KBsecurity in your dongle/software and are using
 TT> your product in KBan "irregular" (don't want to say
 TT> "illegal" <g>) way.  We KBfurther speculate that Planet
 TT> Connect doesn't care if the KBsecurity has been cracked as
 TT> long as these hackers pay for the KBservice they get (the
 TT> only decent thing to do) and don't pass KBthe hack on to
 TT> other people.  And that is why we haven't heard

 TT> I can't go into specifics but I know this to be true.

The contract I signed and which was accepted by PC allows modification of the
code for one's own use.  It specifically prohibits passing modified code to
other people.  Fair enough.  You can't tell me who has the hacked code because
he/she can't give it to me anyway.  Can you tell me how to hack it myself?
Something to do with debug, disk editor and NOP instructions?

 TT> I'm both a Dos/DV and an OS/2 user myself.  I'd very much
 TT> welcome a "sanctioned" OS/2 version as well as a much better
 TT> Desqview version.

Pity.  I've gone through 2 operating systems superior to DOS, running on other
(non-Intel) machines.  With the advent of a real multitasker for an Intel
machine, I decided to switch to an IBM clone only to find that people are still
writing for an "OS" conceived in the Dark Ages and calling their product
progressive.  I refuse to adjust my attitude because it's reality that's
buggered :)


Kim
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From: DENNIS POWERS                          Number: 756
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 05/04/94 11:56p
Subj: Corrupted files                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Boyd!

02 May 94, Gordon Malone writes to Dennis Powers:

 GM> Thanks and please do keep us posted.

Here is some more detail culled from my history logs.  In each case the file
size has remained the same but the File with the Different CRC is corrupted.
What I find of particular interest is that this has not happened (since I
started watching) with *any* of the FDN or PCUSENET files, only the Fido
arcmail packets.  Since *only* the arcmail bundles are affected I can be pretty
sure that the problem is not with my equipment, but is some function of the
Program & or uplink process.  Let me know if you desire additional information.


File name        Size    Date      Time      CRC32     Processed Date & time
============   ========  ========  ========  ========  =====================
0000FFFF.MO1     465505  05/02/94  01:36:10  7CDC178B  05-02-1994  13:20:00
0000FFFF.MO1     465505  05/02/94  01:36:10  7CDC178B  05-03-1994  01:56:38
0000FFFF.MO1     465505  05/02/94  01:36:10  82987DC3  05-03-1994  03:06:55

0000FFFF.MO4     495462  05/02/94  02:22:28  10D9F5EC  05-02-1994  20:01:09
0000FFFF.MO4     495462  05/02/94  02:22:28  0E119023  05-03-1994  03:06:38

0000FFFF.SA2     436987  04/30/94  02:29:36  1B4C49BE  04-30-1994  11:52:50
0000FFFF.SA2     436987  04/30/94  02:29:36  1B4C49BE  05-01-1994  00:24:11
0000FFFF.SA2     436987  04/30/94  02:29:36  7F323499  05-01-1994  02:46:09
0000FFFF.SA2     436987  04/30/94  02:29:36  1B4C49BE  05-01-1994  11:18:07

0000FFFF.SAB     469422  04/16/94  06:22:30  30EC001F  04-16-1994  11:12:01
0000FFFF.SAB     469422  04/16/94  06:22:30  8BE40DDF  04-16-1994  22:52:20
0000FFFF.SAB     469422  04/16/94  06:22:30  8BE40DDF  04-17-1994  05:51:42

0000FFFF.SU0     376781  04/17/94  00:34:18  7EE20982  04-17-1994  19:14:28
0000FFFF.SU0     376781  04/17/94  00:34:18  C12B56AE  04-18-1994  07:42:44
0000FFFF.SU0     376781  04/17/94  00:34:18  7EE20982  04-19-1994  19:41:13

0000FFFF.SUG     478155  05/01/94  17:42:42  68B23061  05-02-1994  10:27:29
0000FFFF.SUG     478155  05/01/94  17:42:42  68B23061  05-02-1994  19:59:29
0000FFFF.SUG     478155  05/01/94  17:42:42  EB86892C  05-03-1994  03:04:54

0000FFFF.TU6     437108  05/03/94  04:34:34  1D338929  05-03-1994  12:08:12
0000FFFF.TU6     437108  05/03/94  04:34:34  38529FAA  05-03-1994  19:21:53
0000FFFF.TU6     437108  05/03/94  04:34:34  38529FAA  05-03-1994  23:56:38

0000FFFF.TUE     383267  04/26/94  12:04:18  F7008D76  04-27-1994  09:15:49
0000FFFF.TUE     383267  04/26/94  12:04:18  F7008D76  04-27-1994  19:52:36
0000FFFF.TUE     383267  04/26/94  12:04:18  E8547829  04-28-1994  09:54:24

0000FFFF.TUE     248513  05/03/94  07:01:24  98ACAFA1  05-03-1994  19:18:18
0000FFFF.TUE     248513  05/03/94  07:01:24  BA6B9052  05-03-1994  23:53:41

0000FFFF.WE7     428335  04/27/94  04:27:12  3869EBCC  04-27-1994  12:00:13
0000FFFF.WE7     428335  04/27/94  04:27:12  3869EBCC  04-27-1994  19:56:05
0000FFFF.WE7     428335  04/27/94  04:27:12  EAD341E9  04-28-1994  09:58:07

0000FFFF.WEF     526211  04/13/94  17:38:20  BCD26AFB  04-14-1994  09:55:58
0000FFFF.WEF     526211  04/13/94  17:38:20  6737EE03  04-14-1994  23:59:59
0000FFFF.WEF     526211  04/13/94  17:38:20  6737EE03  04-15-1994  02:06:55

Dennis

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From: MIKE NYMAN                             Number: 757
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/04/94 11:02p
Subj: Tossers for .BAG's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Guys and gals. I have been trying to get productive for the past month and a
half and at this point I have very little hair left in my head as I have been
pulling it out by the hand full. Here it is . I have tryed to get a processer
that will process .BAG files into something that I can distribute to other fido
nodes in the same way we send Echomail. I have tried Gigo and found that I
needed to loose all of my memory managers and reset my system to run with a 32
bit emulatior and I also need a gate to gate outbound and an Internet address
of my own.
The other program I have given a lot of thought to was XSH . This was a
disaster for me . String after string of problems with this software have
redused me to the point where I must sit here for up to five hours and baby sit
this software while it processes the PCUSENET files into a message base when
getting things out of the message base is a crap shoot. HELP. Is there any one
that is using and processing thease files that can give me a hand setting up
this kind of system. Or at least point me at a peace of software that Will do
what it says it will with out having to rebuild my entire system around it.
Thanks . any help would make you a worshiped guru of the online!!!<G>

                            .....Mike Nyman

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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 758
  To: CHUCK WARREN                             Date: 05/04/94 11:26p
Subj: Is It Me????                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CW>    Which brand/model is this you're using?

CW>    Chuck

I would be very interested in that myself. I have seen the Zoom 28.8's for
$169, but nothing for $140.
Wonder if it's internal or external?

-Joe
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From: JOHN LYON                              Number: 759
  To: CHUCK WARREN                             Date: 05/05/94  2:44p
Subj: Is it me????                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Is it me???   I don't think so...
->
-> It seems that everytime I FREQ a file from PC, it takes anywhere from
-> 5-10 minutes before I see/get a steady stream of data flowing.  I'm
-> running a 14.4 USR Dual Std and have no problems like this with other

   Hello Chuck,

   I have the same thing happen EVERYTIME I do a F'req. I've tried
   with my 16.8 USR Duals and Zyxels....same thing! I've told Boyd about
   this twice now, no ideas.


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From: JIM TAYLOR                             Number: 760
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/05/94 11:13p
Subj: Hello From Cheyenne                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Well, another try to see if I can get my mail back out to the PC BBS,
and on to the rest of the world. If you see this let me know.

Thanks
Jim Taylor


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From: CHUCK WARREN                           Number: 761
  To: DEAN LAKE                                Date: 05/05/94  7:30a
Subj: unused echomail msgs w/Wi               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DL->One way is to put all the echo areas in your AREAS.BBS.  Set the
DL->echo's you don't wish to carry as PASSTHROUGH's with no fowarding
DL->nodes.  In other words, the line in your AREAS.BBS for each echo
DL->you don't want should read:

DL->P   <ECHO NAME>  1:3615/50

DL->You are telling GoMail that <ECHO NAME> is a passthrough, and the
DL->only connected system is Planet Connect.

DL->You can get the latest copy of FIDONET.NA and do a little
DL->creative editing to make this huge AREAS.BBS -- will probably
DL->save you some typing that way.

   I have a newer version of PCAREAs that I'm about to release.  It will
   search the designated BADMSG sub-dir and add those to your AREAS.BBS
   for ya.  It will also ; (comment) the ones that are no longer shown
   in FIDONET.NA/NO, and at the same time, add new passthru's.

   Chuck


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From: CHUCK WARREN                           Number: 762
  To: ELVIS HARGROVE                           Date: 05/05/94  7:31a
Subj: netmail                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EH->Well, things here is confused!  We've been on the bird for two months and S
EH->haven't gotten our "outgoing" back to /50 to work.

EH->As of this weekend several of the local sysops have spent practically every
EH->afternoon browbeating the hub machines into working.  So far no joy.  Even
EH->we 'force' a connect /50 won't talk to us.

EH->Ah, the joys of FIDO!

   Did you setup a SESSION password with Boyd?


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From: CHUCK GUSTAFSON                        Number: 763
  To: MIKE NYMAN                               Date: 05/05/94  2:36p
Subj: Re: Tossers for .BAG's                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


On Wed 04-May-1994 23:02 thus spake Mike Nyman unto All:

 MN> have been pulling it out by the hand full. Here it is . I have tryed to
 MN> get a processer that will process .BAG files into something that I can
 MN> distribute to other fido nodes in the same way we send Echomail. I have

 MN>                             .....Mike Nyman

Send a NETMAIL to 1:2201/8,  Phil Miller,  when PC was testing the PCUSENET
stuff, he had it working.  I believe he used FRED (something or other) to
convert to PKT and then FASTECHO to toss.

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From: DAVE CALAFRANCESCO                     Number: 764
  To: MARK ADKINS                              Date: 05/05/94 11:03a
Subj: Pc & desqview                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mark Adkins wrote in a message to Mickey Ferguson:

 MA> I'm working on a project that will be on a 486DX2 66 VESA
 MA> with an 8 port Arnet card and six nodes running PCBoard.
 MA> I'll need Desqview to manage this. I've run four nodes on
 MA> one machine with Desqview but never 6. I was told by a few
 MA> that it won't work, DOS can't seem to handle more than four
 MA> comm sessions at one time.

 MA> Would you (or anyone else reading this) know anything about
 MA> this? I could go OS/2 and run PCBoard as a DOS Session but I
 MA> don't think this would be much difference than non-OS/2
 MA> because it's still a DOS session.

According to this months Boardwatch cover, PCBoard 15.1 has OS/2 awareness. It
is still a DOS app, but will now time slice nicely to OS/2. Get the 'paid'
version of Gwinns comm drivers and you can use 8 serial ports under OS/2. I
would make sure you have at least 20 megs of RAM in the beast and would prefer
to see 32 or more. With 20 and my DX33 I start seeing some serious slowdown at
a dozen OS/2 apps. Or about three DOS apps. Or one DOS app that uses serial
ports. So if the 15.1 vers of PCB will work well under OS/2 I would go that
route.

Dave Calafrancesco, 1:272/54 - Team OS/2
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From: GARY RYNO                              Number: 765
  To: DARR HOAG                                Date: 05/05/94  1:25p
Subj: RA/FD/TICK                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Darr -

 > Apparently you've never used Tick....

Appearances can be deceiving.  I was a Tick beta site for three years.

 > Local Passthrough

 > in an area block will most-certainly do what he wants, for that area.

Absolutely correct.

 > It does _not_ delete the file until all attaches for that file have been
 > sent.

A del/sent netmail flag will, however, and a kill/sent flag won't do anything
to the attached files at all.  That's what I was trying to convey.

- Gary

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From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY                        Number: 766
  To: LEE BONNIFIELD                           Date: 05/05/94  9:36p
Subj: Re: Feeds                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 LB>   MB>   I signed up as a non-feeding node with Planet Connect.
 LB>   Now a MB>   sysop nearby (in another state) wants to poll
 LB>   Fido from me. MB>   What is the charge for adding this. Seems
 LB>   like I remember MB>   something about $10 per
 LB>   MB>   month? And what does that include? The filebone too?

 JH>> Hi, Mac.  The additional $10.00 includes ANYTHING that you want
 JH>> to send the other node(s), as long as you are already receiving
 JH>> it via Planet Connect.

 LB> I hope you meant "ANYTHING from Fido".

I meant anything from FidoNet Echomail and the FileBone.
Sorry for not being more explicit.

 LB> I lost your post about 701 / 703 exit problems, but you had them
 LB> backwards - 701 is the exit after the FDNs, and 703 is the exit
 LB> after the Fido mail. See \SKYDATA\SKYINFO\PCINFO.TXT .

Oh.. OK...I'll check into that....thanks.

--jah

... Do Dyslexic Agnostics Ponder the Existance of Dog?
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From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY                        Number: 767
  To: NATE CHASE                               Date: 05/05/94  9:36p
Subj: Re: Lightning Arrestor                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JD>>The coax cable can act as an antenna and pick up a pretty good
 JD>>voltage spike, even if the lightning hits only "close by". This
 JD>>spike can fry your receiver or LNB, or perhaps other connected
 JD>>equipment. They suggest that you install a lightning arrestor
 JD>>device in the coax; it can be bought from the Planet Connect
 JD>>folks or probably any local satellite dealer.

 NC>         Whats the price of your Arrestor and is it guarenteed?

Just to toss my 2 cents in here ... there is absolutely NO device that
is guaranteed not to withstand damage from a lightening strike.  Some do
warranty the device itself; some do CLAIM to warranty up to $10,000.00
worth of equipment which is attached to it, but try and put in a claim
for something that got totalled due to a direct hit.  _MOST_ on
guarantee against transient voltage, spikes, and/or brownouts.

--jah

... Ben Dover & C. Howit Feels -- Attorneys at Law
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From: BILL CLARK                             Number: 768
  To: CRAIG CLARK                              Date: 05/05/94  4:45p
Subj: Hobbies Echo                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a msg on <May 04 22:03>, Craig Clark of 1:3658/1 writes:

 CC> It's not in QWK format - it's in FTSC type packets (just like the Fido
 CC> stuff).  Only 'gotcha' is that replies must go directly back to Bob
 CC> Hoffman at 8:8/0 in FamilyNet.  You don't have to join FamilyNet
 CC> though.

Thanks for the clarification, Craig.  I'd never actually unarchived any of the
FamilyNet archives to find out what was inside, but assumed it was QWK.  And
you know what ASSume does....

:-)  Bill

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From: BRIAN HART                             Number: 769
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 05/05/94  2:31p
Subj: Ilink                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Hello Boyd, Just in case I missed somthing, would you have any info about
ilink.### files ending up in the skydata dir? I saw the message about the
alltics ( no problem there ).

Thanks,
Brian


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From: GORDON MALONE                          Number: 770
  To: JOHNNY GREEN                             Date: 05/03/94  6:01a
Subj: Planet Connect Network!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey Johnny!

 > that
 >         each one must be weighed out accordingly. We will be sure to
 > keep
 >         everyone updated.

Just keep this in the back somewhere. I'm very interested in helping to build
it with you guys. I know there are only a few of you over there and can imagine
that it is a little overwhelming at the moment. If anything, make sure that you
are writing down or storing *all* suggestions that are coming your way. At
least 50% are good and every improvement makes your alturnative that much more
attractive.

Gordon

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From: JOHN LE DUC                            Number: 771
  To: MIKE NYMAN                               Date: 05/05/94  8:15p
Subj: Tossers for .BAG's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike Nyman wrote in a message to All:

MN> I have tried Gigo and found that I needed to loose
MN> all of my memory managers and reset my system to run with a
MN> 32 bit emulatior and I also need a gate to gate outbound and
MN> an Internet address of my own.

I'm using GIGO under QEMM with it's 32 bit emulatior here...it's pretty fast!
My environment is not very friendly here (Desqview, Netware lite, and three
lines of High speed modems on a digiboard with Dgfossel). Send me some more
info and we'll compare notes.

TTYL,
 John
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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 772
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/05/94  8:39a
Subj: Missing File                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Did anyone recieve 52DIX.ZIP on wednesday?

-Joe
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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 773
  To: BOB MORTIMER                             Date: 05/05/94  4:31p
Subj: Account                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 =>12 months at 30 days per month = 360 days, 5 days short of a full year..

BM> Mistakes happen! I have had confirmation from Boyd that it will be
BM> looked into upon my next call.

BM> thanks for the message.

Yes, I understand problems can happen, (I'm a Sysop <g>..)

-Joe
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From: JACK WILLIAMS                          Number: 774
  To: BILL STARR                               Date: 05/04/94 12:20p
Subj: Re: Link Test                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to JACK WILLIAMS <05-03-94 18:10> BILL STARR wrote:

BS> I sure am interested in any program that will help me. I have a

Your setup is impressive, Bill. By-the-way, there is a person in the genealogy
echoes who is looking to contact all STARR's... thought you might be
interested...

The extraction software is working fine at this point. PC puts some "1A", hex,
in some packet headers.... "1A" is an "end-of-file" character, and the file
will not toss that way. I am modifying the software to take all the "1A"s out
of the headers.

What this software does is this: With the 703=ON, the program exits to
PCSKY.BAT after the end of the final Fido mail file. PCSKY.BAT calls
EXTRACT.EXE.

EXTRACT.EXE checks your BBS to see what message echoes you have on the board
and extracts just those messages from all the mail files. It discards all
other messages in which you have no interest. This process saves me many
*hours* each day! After the extraction, the tosser is called and traffic is
tossed to your board and downlinks.

I have not converted the extract program to shareware, but might do that if a
number of people need it.

I'll keep you apprised of correcting the "1A" problem... please let me know
about the STARR genealogy contact....

Regards, Jack

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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 775
  To: BILL STARR                               Date: 05/05/94  7:13p
Subj: Link Test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello There Bill!

In a message to John Robinson on <05/04/94> Bill Starr said the
following:

BS> That is what I am running. Ver 1.1 and I am confused with what it says.
BS> I have been told that you can use the AREAS.BBS file and make it a
BS> complete nodelist.na and then just do the following for the lines that I
BS> do not carry:

BS> 101 12_STEPS                   ; 12 Steps Discussion
BS> P 4DOS             1:3615/50   ; 4DOS Echo
BS> 102 ABLENEWS                   ; Disability/medical news, views, etc.
BS> P ABORTION         1:3615/50   ; Abortion Discussion
BS> P ADAM             1:309/27    ; Adam Computer Conf.
BS>          (The line P ADAM  1:309/27 is a passon as I hub to another)

BS> Is this correct? I sure do appreciate the assistance.

Sure is.. Anything you don't keep and "passthru" uses the "P" in your
areas.bbs file.......


John R.

 * WCE 1.5/2035 * Just Another Happy Wildcat Sysop..1:138/173

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From: GARY CRAIN                             Number: 776
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 05/06/94 11:04a
Subj: Missing File                            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

On May 05, 1994, at 08:39, Joe Hayes of 1:2290/70 wrote:

 JH> Did anyone recieve 52DIX.ZIP on wednesday?

  Not me!  I received it about 5am on Thursday.  It must of made it in the last
pass for the day.

Gary

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From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY                        Number: 777
  To: CHUCK WARREN                             Date: 05/06/94  6:35p
Subj: Re: Unused Echomail Msgs                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 CW>    I have a newer version of PCAREAs that I'm about to release.
 CW>    It will search the designated BADMSG sub-dir and add those
 CW>    to your AREAS.BBS for ya.  It will also ; (comment) the ones
 CW>    that are no longer shown in FIDONET.NA/NO, and at the same
 CW>    time, add new passthru's.

Gosh...I _NEED_ this program <G>.  Hope it will be coming to us via
Planet Connect.


--jah

... Work Harder!  Millions on welfare are depending on you!
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From: BILL STARR                             Number: 778
  To: JACK WILLIAMS                            Date: 05/06/94 10:14a
Subj: Re: Link Test                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> In a message to JACK WILLIAMS <05-03-94 18:10> BILL STARR wrote:
->
-> BS> I sure am interested in any program that will help me. I have a
->
-> Your setup is impressive, Bill. By-the-way, there is a person in the
-> genealogy echoes who is looking to contact all STARR's... thought you
-> be interested...
->
-> The extraction software is working fine at this point. PC puts some "
-> hex, in some packet headers.... "1A" is an "end-of-file" character, a
-> file will not toss that way. I am modifying the software to take all
-> "1A"s out of the headers.
->
-> What this software does is this: With the 703=ON, the program exits t
-> PCSKY.BAT after the end of the final Fido mail file. PCSKY.BAT calls
-> EXTRACT.EXE.
->
-> EXTRACT.EXE checks your BBS to see what message echoes you have on th
-> and extracts just those messages from all the mail files. It discards
-> other messages in which you have no interest. This process saves me m
-> *hours* each day! After the extraction, the tosser is called and traf
-> tossed to your board and downlinks.
->
-> I have not converted the extract program to shareware, but might do t
-> a number of people need it.
->
-> I'll keep you apprised of correcting the "1A" problem... please let m
-> about the STARR genealogy contact....
->
-> Regards, Jack
->
Jack,
I have had some suggestions from others to do the following:

P <Filename>       1:3615/50

This works to pass the message but creates mail packets back to Planet
Connect and others. Then I have to go into Front Door Outbound Sub-Dir
and delete all the packets created so they won't go back to PC. Any
ideas?

Also on the Genoloegy thingy, I have received a post card saying that I
could obtain a Starr Family newspaper free for a look-see. I sent it
back yesterday. Funny that you should mention it also. I think I will
subscribe as it is only $12 a year.

Bill

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From: MIKE ATKINSON                          Number: 779
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 05/06/94  6:51p
Subj: Missing File                            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> Did anyone recieve 52DIX.ZIP on wednesday?

Got it here on the third pass..

Mike

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From: MARK ADKINS                            Number: 780
  To: DAVE CALAFRANCESCO                       Date: 05/06/94  8:43p
Subj: Pc & desqview                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> According to this months Boardwatch cover, PCBoard 15.1 has OS/2
-> awareness. It is still a DOS app, but will now time slice
-> nicely to OS/2. Get the 'paid' version of Gwinns comm drivers
-> and you can use 8 serial ports under OS/2.

PCBoard 15.1 comes with drivers for DOS and OS/2 aware and a program that sets
these up for Arnet (digiboard too) and they, CDC, tell you NOT to use any other
drivers.

-> I would make sure you have at least 20 megs of RAM in the beast and
-> would prefer to see 32 or more. With 20 and my DX33 I start seeing
-> some serious slowdown at a dozen OS/2 apps. Or about three DOS apps.
-> Or one DOS app that uses serial ports.

You have me a little confused here. You have 1 DOS app that uses serial ports
and that one causes you serious slowdowns with 20 megs of RAM. If this is the
case under OS/2 how the heck can I run 6 DOS apps that use serial ports? I'd
need 100+ megs? I don't know of a computer than holds that much RAM. The one's
that I've been looking at hold up to 62/64 megs.

Might as well get two computers and run 3 nodes on each under DOS if OS/2 needs
that much memory to run and ends up slowing everything down when you run 1 DOS
serial program.

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From: BOB MORTIMER                           Number: 781
  To: JOHNNY GREEN                             Date: 05/05/94  2:28p
Subj: Account                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->BLUELAKE
This is a resend of a message that was undeliverable as it was tagged private
in a NON private conference. Boyd has responded to me but I want to send it off
to you as a matter of course.

I am now receiving this conference gated through RIME and see that you are an
active massager in the Planet Connect office. May be you can help me with my
problem.


I seem to have a problem with the expire date of our Planet Connect account.
Our original starting date was in Oct 93 during your BETA test period. Our
first quarter payment started Nov. 1 1993. We paid for three months as a HUB.
On January 11, 1994 I noticed PTCCMAIN.EXE beeping at us, warning us of the 9
days to renew. This was 10 days before I expected it to happen. We faxed you
and after a few days called for our renewal. I was told by Bob that a term was
30 days and a quarter is 3 times that or 90 days. Now I've paid for another
quarter as a single BBS node signing up as a yearly subscriber and I was told
that my new expire date will be on July 12 1994.

I don't understand where we are loosing all the day's.  I've messaged Boyd,
faxed Joe and now messaged you. I would appreciate a message reply indicating
what I should expect when I call your office on or about July 2, 1994.

Thank you for your attention and I hope this matter will be cleared up so we
can get on with the business at hand.


 * OLX 1.52 * I thought I saw a Computer Attack!  I did, I did see a..
===
 * RENFREW Computer Club & BBS -<CANADA>- (via Satelite)
 * PostLink(tm) v1.20 RENFREW (#1303) : RelayNet(tm)

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From: MIKE NYMAN                             Number: 782
  To: JOHN LE DUC                              Date: 05/06/94 12:18p
Subj: Tossers for .BAG's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I'm using GIGO under QEMM with it's 32 bit emulatior
 > here...it's pretty fast!  My environment is not very
 > friendly here (Desqview, Netware lite, and three lines of
 > High speed modems on a digiboard with Dgfossel). Send me
 > some more info and we'll compare notes.
 >
Hi John. I was trying to run GIGO but I could not get past the fact that dos4gw
wouldnot run with a memory manager and no mater what I tryed I could not get it
to run. The next thing was that I do not have an Internet address and do not
know enough about internet to fake one . Nore do I have an outbound gate to
gate the newsgroup access into the internet all of which are required fields in
GIGO . so I turned to a very round about way of tossing this stuff . I am
running XSH to toss the news groups I want into *.MSG format and then running
gecho to toss the measges into pakets for outbound nodes. This worked ok but I
kept getting XSH hanging up on a bag and I would have to reboot and manualy
delete the affected bag and then restart the process. this was what I ment
about babysitting the thing. Yesterday one of my points found a program that
seams to have solved this . PIQUE goes through each bag and pulls only the
messages from news groups I want and gets rid of all the trash that XSH seams
to choke on. But I am now having to set up three programs config files by hand
and the set up for this is taking me for ever. So much for the nice days of
gechos areamgr. I am running DOS 6.2 and QEMM on two 386 sx40's with Lantastic
AI BNU for a fossal and a 14.4 and a 28.8 . One on each computer and two cd
roms. If you know of some way to help with this mess it would be much
appreceated. later John

                            .....Mike Nyman

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From: CHRIS BATES                            Number: 783
  To: MIKE BELUE                               Date: 05/06/94  7:32p
Subj: Is It Me????                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > CB> I now get 3300 and up to 3600 CPS rates with my new 28.8's!



 > Chris,

 >      I just got mine today.  Would you mind sharing your
 > NVRAM settings?

No problem!  I will netmail you a textfile called FDRAZOOM.TXT that I got from
someplace, I can't remember where though...  It is an excellent textfile that
has all the necessary init strings for Remote Access, FrontDoor, and ZOOM
28.8's!  This file is a godsend, and anyone who wants it can FREQ it from me at
1:399/3...

Later,
chris

... This copy of GEdit has been unregistered for 34 days.
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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 784
  To: BILL STARR                               Date: 05/02/94  4:54p
Subj: Link Test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello There Bill!

In a message to Ken Flory on <04/30/94> Bill Starr said the following:

BS>       my board. Right now they are being tossed into BADMSG dir?
BS>       Is there some way I can NUL or NIL them out so they wont get
BS>       tossed just dumped into the trash can?

Get ahold of Mike Ortiz, Bill.. He wrote a version of Gomail that
will do just that... I ran it the first night I got it and let me tell
you, That sucker is FAST.!  Just like Gomail.!


John R.

 * WCE 1.5/2035 * Just Another Happy Wildcat Sysop..1:138/173

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From: JOHNNY GREEN                           Number: 785
  To: SIKKO DE GRAAF                           Date: 05/03/94 11:01a
Subj: Planet connect in Europe??              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (01 May 94) Sikko De Graaf wrote to Johnny Green...

 SD> Can you give me your company voice nr: so we can call you for some
 SD> more information and questions?..


        Planet Systems, Inc,     [phone] VOICE

... │       Home of Planet Connect and Skylink Communications.
│

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From: KEN KAVANAGH                           Number: 786
  To: KEN SHORT                                Date: 05/02/94 11:39p
Subj: Need idea's                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

      On Thursday April 28 1994, Ken Short writes to All:

Hello Ken!

 KS> well...Now i need some idea's on what i should do to hook a dos box to my
 KS> OS/2 bbs machine...IE  what is a good package to hook the 2 machines...A
 KS> way of telling my bbs machine to toos the planet connect stuff...and ANY
 KS> other info you think is helpful....Thanks in advance...

I have a 386sx running dos 5.0 with lantastic 5.0  & intel etherexpress 16bit
lan cards.  the dos machine receives all day all night, exiting, dup checking,
then moving the mail/files to my os2 machine and then sends a force exit to my
binkley line..it runs a rexx script i wrote which also dup checks (done as a
precaussion since in the past..all the available dos dup checkers failed at one
time or another and completely crashed my os.2 box..so...after dup checking all
the stuff i move the mail to a mail dir, the files to a file dir..i hatch the
mail out to the other main hubs in vancouver, let that get sent..then hatch the
files after 6:30 which allows plenty of time for the semi-time sensitive mail
to get out first (i hope :)

Oh..lantastic runs under a vdm image under os.2..uses no cpu load cept maybe
20% while the files get moved but otherwise is invisible.  Hope some of this
gives you some ideas.

If it was of great use..i'd zip up my lanimage file for you and make it
avaiulble for freq :)

Cheers, Ken


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From: DAVID LIERMAN                          Number: 787
  To: BILL STARR                               Date: 05/03/94  8:37a
Subj: WildCat and PConn                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The best thing we have come up with is using WildMail 3.11 it has the
option in it now to will messages in Conf that you are not carrying.
The only problem is if you are a HUB for other board then they will not
be able to auto add conf. because when they request a conf. it puts them
in a Que file and waits for a message to be tossed in the bad area and
then adds the conf. if they are being deleted as they come in it will
never add them. you have to manual add them..  I talked to On-Line about
this and the said it will be take care of in the next release of
WildMail 4.0 sometime when Wildcat 4.0 is out!!
David Lierman 1:2255/90 PITA BBS


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From: PETER CONWAY                           Number: 788
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/03/94  3:04p
Subj: Global Connect                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                         Why GLOBAL CONNECT?
                         -------------------

Now let's just say you want to call during the day, unheard of right??
WRONG!

If your currently using Plannet Connect or Pagesat to
recieve you mail and using "PRICEYNet" to send  your mail back, then
let's just show you what you can save by going with Global Connect:

                     Price's compared on May 3, 1994

                       GLOBAL CONNECT         PRICEYNET
                       --------------         ---------
Setup Fee:                 $0.00               $50.00
Domain Name:              $40.00               $25.00
Monthly Fee:              $12.00                $6.00
Hourly Connect Fee:        $0.00                $4.00
Long Distance Cost:        $0.18/min*           $0.24/min
Storage Fee:               $0.00                $0.00 (soon to change)
Per meg charge:            $0.00                $2.00/per meg after 1st
Seperate Personal Account
Included at NO charge:      YES                  NO
Leased Line and
SLIP/PPP Support     :      YES                  NO
Dial-in 800 numbers  :      YES                  NO
Support 7 days a week:      YES                  NO
                          ------------         -------------
Total Average yearly cost:$488.50              $722.50

*Special 800 dial-in access available to anyone in North America.


ANY QUESTIONS? Call 804-229-4484(voice) 9am - 7pm
                    1:271/320 (Interuse.zip)
                    [e-mail]

* Global Connect is a registered trademark of Global Connect Inc.
Prices based on 2 - 30 minute day-rate calls per day for 365 days
at 14.4bps standard UUCP account access.
Rates quoted by Global Connect are good ONLY for current Planet Connect
or Pagesat Customers.


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From: PETER CONWAY                           Number: 789
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/03/94  3:05p
Subj: Global Connect                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                         Why GLOBAL CONNECT?
                         -------------------

If your currently receiving Your feed through Plannet Connect and are
using "PRICEYNet" to send back your UUCP mail, then let's just
show you what you can save by going with Global Connect:

                     Price's compared on May 3, 1994

                       GLOBAL CONNECT         PRICEYNET
                       --------------         ---------
Setup Fee:                 $0.00               $50.00
Domain Name:              $40.00               $25.00
Monthly Fee:              $12.00                $6.00
Hourly Connect Fee:        $0.00                $2.00
Long Distance Cost:        $0.12/min            $0.12/min
Storage Fee:               $0.00                $0.00 (soon to change)
Per meg charge:            $0.00                $1.00/per meg after 1st
Seperate Personal Account
Included at NO charge:      YES                  NO
Leased Line and
SLIP/PPP Support     :      YES                  NO
Dial-in 800 numbers  :      YES                  NO
Support 7 days a week:      YES                  NO
                          ------------         -------------
Total Average yearly cost:$379.00             $408.75

ANY QUESTIONS? Call 804-229-4484(voice) 9am - 7pm
                    1:271/320 (Interuse.zip)
                    [e-mail]

* Global Connect is a registered trademark of Global Connect Inc.
Prices based on 1 - 5 minute night-rate calls per day for 365 days
at 14.4bps standard UUCP account access.

Global Connect Monthly rate shown is valid ONLY for current Planet
Connect & Pagesat customers.


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From: GEORGE VANDERVORT                      Number: 790
  To: CHUCK WARREN                             Date: 05/07/94 12:24p
Subj: unused echomail msgs w/Wi               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thursday May 05 1994 07:30, Chuck Warren wrote to Dean Lake:

 CW>
 DL->> One way is to put all the echo areas in your AREAS.BBS.  Set the
 DL->> echo's you don't wish to carry as PASSTHROUGH's with no fowarding
 DL->> nodes.  In other words, the line in your AREAS.BBS for each echo
 DL->> you don't want should read:
 CW>
 DL->> P   <ECHO NAME>  1:3615/50
 CW>
 DL->> You are telling GoMail that <ECHO NAME> is a passthrough, and the
 DL->> only connected system is Planet Connect.
 CW>
 DL->> You can get the latest copy of FIDONET.NA and do a little
 DL->> creative editing to make this huge AREAS.BBS -- will probably
 DL->> save you some typing that way.
 CW>
 CW>    I have a newer version of PCAREAs that I'm about to release.  It will
 CW>    search the designated BADMSG sub-dir and add those to your AREAS.BBS
 CW>    for ya.  It will also ; (comment) the ones that are no longer shown
 CW>    in FIDONET.NA/NO, and at the same time, add new passthru's.
 CW>
 CW>    Chuck
 CW> -+- WM v3.10/91-0206
 CW>  + Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053  (1:3611/15)

Hello Chuck,

I use your Last release of PCAREAS All the time.. and it works great...

However, based on you comments about a New release that will comment out areas,
that are not in FIDONET.NA/NO??

how will this effect topic areas like K12-HWY and many other Areas such as
regional or local Net topics, that are not listed in FIDONET.NA/NO??

Inquiring Minds want to know?  :-)

Regards,
George Vandervort
 ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb

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From: JOHN HERRBACH                          Number: 791
  To: BILL STARR                               Date: 05/07/94  7:33a
Subj: Link Test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello BILL,

On Apr. 30, 1994 at 11:05 , BILL STARR of 1:309/51 wrote:

 BS> Now - How do I kill the echo messages that are not being
 BS> utilitzed on my board. Right now they are being tossed into
 BS> BADMSG dir? Is there some way I can NUL or NIL them out so they
 BS> wont get tossed just dumped into the trash can?

Areafix, Seal, and other similar programs will check the BAD_MSGS directory and
if meeting criteria, add the conference names to your AREAS.BBS file.  Then,
they will not be tossed to your BAD_MSGS directory anymore.

John {|-)
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From: MICKEY FERGUSON                        Number: 792
  To: BRIAN HART                               Date: 05/07/94  8:09p
Subj: Ilink                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to Boyd Goodin, Brian Hart said:

BH> Hello Boyd, Just in case I missed somthing, would you have
BH>any info about ilink.### files ending up in the skydata dir?

Methinks it has something to do with your ACONFIG.SKY being out of date. <G>

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From: MICKEY FERGUSON                        Number: 793
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 05/07/94  8:10p
Subj: Missing File                            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

* In a message originally to All, Joe Hayes said:

JH>Did anyone recieve 52DIX.ZIP on wednesday?


Got it here.

--- GEcho 1.00
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From: CHUCK WARREN                           Number: 794
  To: JOHN LYON                                Date: 05/07/94  7:54a
Subj: Is it me????                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL->   I have the same thing happen EVERYTIME I do a F'req. I've tried
JL->   with my 16.8 USR Duals and Zyxels....same thing! I've told Boyd about
JL->   this twice now, no ideas.

     Thanks John.  Seems some of us have problems, some don't.

     Chuck


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From: ELVIS HARGROVE                         Number: 795
  To: CHUCK WARREN                             Date: 05/07/94  2:01a
Subj: netmail                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*@ORIGIN :BOO!  Board Of Occult  McAllen Tx.                          N
-> Did you setup a SESSION password with Boyd?

Yep!  We did that.  UNfortunately, today we found out that they'd typed it into
ANOTHER net's address.  (A typo that I make frequently so I fully understand.)

This may actually GO OUT!
All appropriate appendages crossed and re crossed.

^..^
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From: JASON BAGINSKI                         Number: 796
  To: MIKE NYMAN                               Date: 05/07/94 11:16a
Subj: Re: Tossers for .BAG's                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MN>nodes. This worked ok but I kept getting XSH hanging up on a bag
 MN>and I would have to reboot and manualy delete the affected bag and
 MN>then restart the process. this was what I ment about babysitting
 MN>the thing. Yesterday one of my points found a program that seams to
 MN>have solved this . PIQUE goes through each bag and pulls only the
 MN>messages from news groups I want and gets rid of all the trash that
 MN>XSH seams to choke on. But I am now having to set up three programs

Versions of XSH prior to 0.5 would barf on a certain incorrect date field, with
0.5 I took a "screw it" approach.  If it does't follow specs to the letter, I'm
just going to take the current date time, do'ya know how many messages I have
about "XSH is buggy", "XSH doesn't work", "The programer must be terrible", all
due to other people unable to follow their own specs.  Now I'll get messages
going, "The date/time field is not the one in the bag".  <sigh>

Ah well, just relieving some frustration.

0.6 is the latest "official" version.  If you want to try 0.6, freq XSH_0_6.ARJ
from here(actualy, I think the XSH file area in on Plannet Connect, so you
might have it already sitting on your system) and shoot me off some netmail if
you have problems, until I'm informed of specific problems, I can't exactly fix
them, now can I?  :)

The "major" new thing with 0.6 is area on demand dupe checking(you configure
what areas you want to do dupe checking on).

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From: BOB MORTIMER                           Number: 797
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 05/05/94  9:40a
Subj: Re: account                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->433
BG=>    Our caculations are not alway correct but the one that bob gave you
  =>is currect. Let me know on the next update and I will fix it.

I hope you will be available. You seem to be a very busy person.  My next call
should be snack dab in the middle of vacation time. (G)


 * OLX 1.52 * Tags "R" Us ...
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 * PostLink(tm) v1.20 RENFREW (#1303) : RelayNet(tm)

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From: JOE LYDA                               Number: 798
  To: BILL STARR                               Date: 05/07/94 11:47a
Subj: Link Test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello John!

In a message to Bill Starr <05/05/94> John Robinson wrote:

JR> Hello There Bill!

JR> In a message to John Robinson on <05/04/94> Bill Starr said the
JR> following:

JR> BS> That is what I am running. Ver 1.1 and I am confused with what it say
JR> BS> I have been told that you can use the AREAS.BBS file and make it a
JR> BS> complete nodelist.na and then just do the following for the lines tha
JR> BS> do not carry:

JR> BS> 101 12_STEPS                   ; 12 Steps Discussion
JR> BS> P 4DOS             1:3615/50   ; 4DOS Echo
JR> BS> 102 ABLENEWS                   ; Disability/medical news, views, etc.
JR> BS> P ABORTION         1:3615/50   ; Abortion Discussion
JR> BS> P ADAM             1:309/27    ; Adam Computer Conf.
JR> BS>          (The line P ADAM  1:309/27 is a passon as I hub to another)

Got one question on the P ADAM  1:309/27 part, are you getting
that ECHO from 1:309/27? If not then it should read
P  ADAM  1:3615/50  1:309/27 if you are getting it form the bird
in the sky so all replys would go back from 1:309/27 to your node
and them back to 1:3615/50.  Otherwise it is dumped to never land
when a reply comes back to you.

Joe

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From: JOE LYDA                               Number: 799
  To: BILL STARR                               Date: 05/07/94 11:56a
Subj: Re: Link Test                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Bill!

BS> I have had some suggestions from others to do the following:

BS> P <Filename>       1:3615/50

BS> This works to pass the message but creates mail packets back to Planet
BS> Connect and others. Then I have to go into Front Door Outbound Sub-Dir
BS> and delete all the packets created so they won't go back to PC. Any
BS> ideas?

BS> Also on the Genoloegy thingy, I have received a post card saying that I
BS> could obtain a Starr Family newspaper free for a look-see. I sent it
BS> back yesterday. Funny that you should mention it also. I think I will
BS> subscribe as it is only $12 a year.

It looks like you do not have 1:3622/51 in Gomail as your Alias
address from what I read above!

Joe

 * WCE 1.5/2107 * What are you doing?!? The message is over,GO AWAY!

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From: BILL CLARK                             Number: 800
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 05/06/94  3:59p
Subj: Missing File                            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

In a msg on <May 05 08:39>, Joe Hayes of 1:2290/70 writes:

 JH> Did anyone recieve 52DIX.ZIP on wednesday?

Got it here on a KU band setup, but I believe not until the third transmission
cycle.

:-)  Bill

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From: BILL CLARK                             Number: 801
  To: BRIAN HART                               Date: 05/06/94  4:02p
Subj: Ilink                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a msg on <May 05 14:31>, Brian Hart of 1:157/579 writes:

 BH>  Hello Boyd, Just in case I missed somthing, would you have any info
 BH> about ilink.### files ending up in the skydata dir? I saw the
 BH> message about the alltics ( no problem there ).

Sounds like a config problem with your ACONFIG.SKY.  No Ilink files have wound
up in the SKYDATA directory here, or in any of the directories below SKYDATA.

:-)  Bill

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From: DAVE PETRUCCI                          Number: 802
  To: BILL CLARK                               Date: 05/07/94  5:12p
Subj: Re: Hobbies Echo                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >in Net 100 went to Planet Connect to begin with.  In the last
 >correspondence I had with Harvey Smith about the situation, Harvey was
 >considering yanking the HOBBIES echo out of FamilyNet and making it a
 >FidoNet originated echo, which would result in its traffic again appearing
 >over the satellite.
 >Ah....the games people play....
 >:-)  Bill, N100EC

Bill,
       Why can't it be in both places at the same time... ?
Dave P.

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From: DAVE PETRUCCI                          Number: 803
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 05/07/94  5:15p
Subj: Re: Is It Me????                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

 >I would be very interested in that myself. I have seen the Zoom 28.8's for
 >$169, but nothing for $140.
 >Wonder if it's internal or external?
 >-Joe

Joe,
       The sysop prices for the ZOOM 28.8k's are as follows..
       $139  - Internal
       $159  - External
Dave P.

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From: OZZ NIXON                              Number: 804
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/07/94  1:18a
Subj: PCB and other toys...                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

All,
        After 4 months in Beta Info System Technology is releasing the
following toys for public beta. They will come with demo keys, and drop
dead 4 times a month until you register them (gotta promote the
shareware concept one way or another...)

--- New Products List --------------------------------------------------

        ISTMAIL - Hudson Tosser, ISTGOLD GoldBase Tosser, IST!PCB
PCBoard Tosser ... all three are capable of handling 250 nodes in their
export list, and 8000+ conferences *(internet).

        CRCHK   - Ever wanted to delete off all those *.QWK files, and
PCUSENET.* files that have already be processed, and could not find
anything that worked worth a damn??? This does it for you, simple, no
config files, just 1 command line ... and you get instant access to
clean directories (running here since Jan 2nd).

        D/Bbs   - You run QuickBBS, or RA and want a clone, but has
message bases and file bases designed for the work load from the dish?
Yep, this does it for you ... and if you are a PCB operator, you will
love the fact we can run everything except for PPE's from D/Bbs! (we are
working on the PPE's currently!)

        DOMANSED - want an external editor for the BBS, one that
supports many configuration, and works like a word processor, not an
ANSI toy???

        All Communication based Software support Fossil, Uart, Int14 and
Digiboard. Come in many flavours (OS/2 in development), and we have a
support staff of programmers and techs reaching all ends of the US, and
one in Europe. Custom Software jobs available, contact us for rates.

                          Long live the bird!
                           G.E. Ozz Nixon Jr.
               Info System Technology (tennessee branch).

* - # of conferences is also based upon the amount of base ram you have
    available. 6800 conferences in 414k Desqview Windows, and the
    internal 65k cache in use (which is programmable down to 18k).
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 * Origin: Fidonet (tm) & (c) Tom Jennings {via SPoSnB%} (1:18/201)
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From: OZZ NIXON                              Number: 805
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 05/07/94  1:23a
Subj: Re: Is It Me????                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No


In a message to Chuck Warren <05-04-94 23:26> Joe Hayes wrote:

JH> I would be very interested in that myself. I have seen the Zoom
JH> 28.8's for $169, but nothing for $140.
JH> Wonder if it's internal or external?

        Call 1-800-822-8224 ... then (if I recall right the next two
menu option on the phone are 3 then 2 ...) but ask for the fax for the
28800's for 149.00 form the MNP people themselves Microcom! This version
does not support the parallel interface, but who cares? The 249 version
supports parallel but only has class 1 fax (yuk).

enjoy the crackle of the baud!
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 * Origin: Fidonet (tm) & (c) Tom Jennings {via SPoSnB%} (1:18/201)
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From: OZZ NIXON                              Number: 806
  To: MIKE NYMAN                               Date: 05/07/94  1:28a
Subj: Re: Tossers for .BAG's                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


In a message to All <05-04-94 23:02> Mike Nyman wrote:

MN> The other program I have given a lot of thought to was XSH . This was
MN> a disaster for me . String after string of problems with this
MN> software have redused me to the point where I must sit here for up to
MN> five hours and baby sit this software while it processes the PCUSENET
MN> files into a message base when getting things out of the message base
MN> is a crap shoot. HELP. Is there any one that is using and processing
MN> thease files that can give me a hand setting up this kind of system.
MN> Or at least point me at a peace of software that Will do what it says
MN> it will with out having to rebuild my entire system around it. Thanks
MN> . any help would make you a worshiped guru of the online!!!<G>

        GRIN!!!! You want the answer, you found the author(s) of Info
System Technology. We have the toys for you, we are not as fast as GIGO
for going from *.BAG to *.PKT ... but you don't have to have a ton of
ram, about 501k will process all the *.BAG's and send them out in *.PKT.
Then as per an UPLINK ... IST also provides this to people, if you are
the 1st in your area the charge is only $60.00 a year ... and yes our
tossers support areanames upto 255 characters - something the otherguys
forgot. We also support direct interface to PCBoard, Hudson Message
bases and GoldBase Message bases (squish and jam are at the alpha
sites). And we now do Credit Cards :)...

Send me netmail @ 1:18/201
C ya...

Don't just give me the bird, I want Internet too... <grin>
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From: OZZ NIXON                              Number: 807
  To: JIM TAYLOR                               Date: 05/08/94 12:07a
Subj: Re: Hello From Cheyenne                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


In a message to All <05-05-94 23:13> Jim Taylor wrote:

JT> Well, another try to see if I can get my mail back out to the PC BBS,
JT> and on to the rest of the world. If you see this let me know.

        Its a workin'
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From: OZZ NIXON                              Number: 808
  To: JOHN LE DUC                              Date: 05/08/94 12:12a
Subj: Re: Tossers for .BAG's                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL> Netware lite, and three lines of High speed modems on a digiboard
JL> with Dgfossel). Send me some more info and we'll compare notes.

        Drooling now... I have a Digiboard .. and a registered DGFO, but
do not have the XiDOS5.Sys ... would you be so polite to send it to my
system, or send netmail saying poll you for it... begging!! I have spent
over a couple hundred calling people and getting the run around. I ran
PCBoard with the COMMDRV.exe and tsr ... it works but I no longer run
PCBoard as I am writing a clone.... thanks MUCHO!!!!

Ozz
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From: JASON FESLER                           Number: 809
  To: MIKE NYMAN                               Date: 05/07/94  4:27p
Subj: Tossers for .BAG's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike Nyman writes:

 MN> Hi Guys and gals. I have been trying to get productive for
 MN> the past month and a half and at this point I have very
 MN> little hair left in my head as I have been pulling it out by
 MN> the hand full. Here it is . I have tryed to get a processer
 MN> that will process .BAG files into something that I can
 MN> distribute to other fido nodes in the same way we send
 MN> Echomail. I have tried Gigo and found that I needed to loose
 MN> all of my memory managers and reset my system to run with a

Strange .. what type of operating system are you running?  Most of us running
GIGO _do_ use a memory manager :-)  I use it all the time to handle
distributing newsgroups to approx 55 systems.

 MN> 32 bit emulatior and I also need a gate to gate outbound and
 MN> an Internet address of my own.

You do not have to route outbound traffic at all.  You just need to configure
the directories themselves, as though you were.  They will remain empty.
If you need assistance, mail me.



Jason Fesler
[e-mail]
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From: MAC BRYANT                             Number: 810
  To: LEE BONNIFIELD                           Date: 05/07/94  6:22a
Subj: Re: feeds                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LB|The $10 includes your right to hub the entire Fido backbone FIDONET.NA
  |and also FIDONET.NO and as much of the Fido filebone as you get from
  |Planet Connect; but there are additional restrictions on some of the
  |other services from elsewhere, eg Author Direct, weather, TV listings,
  |PCSITES.

  Thanks, Lee. I understood that. The guy was just interested in pulling
  Fido mail from me. However, after getting his phone bill for a remote
  local line, he's reconsidering. <g>

  Have a good one.

  .\\ac

 * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * Natchez - Where the Old South Still Lives & Lives & Liv


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From: KEN KAVANAGH                           Number: 811
  To: CRAIG CLARK                              Date: 05/07/94 10:11p
Subj: Hobbies Echo                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

      On Tuesday May 03 1994, Craig Clark writes to Ken Kavanagh:

Hello Craig!

 CC> I'm getting it from PC!  It's in the FamilyNet mail bundles.

I have no plans to toss all the bundles of a net I don't want to get when the
echo I want (hobbies0 SHOULD be arriving via normal backbone channels
(0000ffff.*  bundles)  Its absense  is  still silly imo. :)

Cheers, Ken


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From: ART MACK                               Number: 812
  To: BOYD GOODWIN                             Date: 05/08/94 12:00p
Subj: ILLEGAL?                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Boyd!


Since april 18th been getting an Ilegal connect message in the log when 201/01
connects to you? Whats going on Boyd, the mail aint flowing.



NFE BBS   nfe.com   1:201/70   317-447-9653

 * WCE 1.5/2087 * NFE Multiline 25 Gigs  nfe.com  1:201/70  317-447-9653


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From: ART MACK                               Number: 813
  To: BOYD GOODWIN                             Date: 05/08/94  2:14p
Subj: ILLEGAL?                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Art!

In a message to Boyd Goodwin <05/08/94> Art Mack wrote:

AM> Hello Boyd!


AM> Since april 18th been getting an Ilegal connect message in the log when 2
AM> connects to you? Whats going on Boyd, the mail aint flowing.


Well I messed around and recompiled the node lsit and now it seems to work!
weird...it was calling 1:3615/50......let me know if you get this one please.


               Art Mack

NFE BBS   nfe.com   1:201/70   317-447-9653

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From: PAUL BENDER                            Number: 814
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/07/94  6:13p
Subj: Disk Space Needed?                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The network where I belong has begun to consider getting a Planet Connect
dish, but we've been told that the disk space needed is quite a large
amount.  I would be interested in comments from current Planet Connect
customers on how much disk space is required for successfully processing
the typical Fidonet Message Backbone and Filebone.

        Thanks in Advance...

... Anything for Free, Is Worth what You Paid for It....
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From: BOYD GOODIN                            Number: 815
  To: STEVE ADAIR                              Date: 05/09/94 12:39a
Subj: Re: InterNet Mail delays??              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> are OLD when we get them... todays (5/4/94) messages are dated from from
> 4/28
> to 4/29!!!  These messages are 5 to 6 days old!  Is this temporary??
> Putting

   We have concluded that it is a problem with our provider and they are
working on fixing it. They have to monitor it to see where the bottle-neck is.
Hopefully we will see an improvement over the next week.


...Boyd

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From: DAVID UNFRIED                          Number: 816
  To: MIKE NYMAN                               Date: 05/08/94 11:30a
Subj: Tossers for .BAG's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Mike!

Wednesday May 04 1994 23:02, Mike Nyman wrote to All:

 MN> to gate outbound and an Internet address of my own.

Having and address of your own seems a good idea to me.

 MN> point where I must sit here for up to five hours and baby sit this
 MN> software while it processes the PCUSENET files into a message base when
 MN> getting things out of the message base is a crap shoot. HELP. Is there any
 MN> one that is using and processing thease files that can give me a hand
 MN> setting up this kind of system. Or at least point me at a peace of
 MN> software that Will do what it says it will with out having to rebuild my
 MN> entire system around it. Thanks . any help would make you a worshiped guru
 MN> of the online!!!<G>

I have no idea what type of BBS software you use so this may not be a solution
for you. I use Wilduucp from Online Computer Resources for use with Wildcat!.
It includes a utility to convert BAGS into "munged" uucp type inbound files,
and will simultaneously toss into Wildcat! message base and gate any or all
areas into Fido style packets for distribution. It was designed to accomodate
the "inbound only" Planet Connect or Pagesat satellite feeds, and send outbound
to a standard domain such as a local provider.

I use Squish, not Wildmail, to toss the gated packets as Wildmail is too slow
to handle a full hub feed IMHO. OCR claims you need Wildmail but any flexible
tosser such as Squish, QM, or Gecho can be configured to work with Wilduucp.
Wilduucp itself does not distribute packets, it simply produces them to be
tossed as normal inbound to your FTSC tosser. I'm sure there's probably a way
to fool it to run without Wildcat as well.

As I said, this is probably not a solution for you, but there is a package out
there that does what you're looking for, and I understand that similar programs
are coming out for other BBS software, although I'm not sure about FTSC gating
capability.

I had the same exact experience with GIGO. It set up OK, and seemed to do the
trick, but couldn't be run on one of my BBS nodes on the LAN which requires
memory managers, TSRs and all kinds of tricks to get everything else to run.

David

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From: JON ANDERSON                           Number: 817
  To: NATE CHASE                               Date: 05/05/94  6:07p
Subj: Lightning arrestor                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JD>device in the coax; it can be bought from the Planet Connect
 JD>folks or probably any local satellite dealer.


NC>Boyd (et all),
NC>        Whats the price of your Arrestor and is it guarenteed?




ummm.... interesting:  just how   could one gaurantee  that any device (even a
granite boulder!) would function properly if hit by lightening??



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From: JON ANDERSON                           Number: 818
  To: KEN SHORT                                Date: 05/06/94  6:31p
Subj: Need idea's                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KS>Hi all, well I have just jumped on the Planet Connect Band wagon...I was
KS>holding off until they got an OS/2 fix, but have just been told they are
KS>having probs with the new dongle, they are beta testing...ARRRGGHHH... Oh
KS>well...Now i need some idea's on what i should do to hook a dos box to my
KS>OS/2 bbs machine...IE  what is a good package to hook the 2 machines...A way
KS>of telling my bbs machine to toos the planet connect stuff...and ANY other
KS>info you think is helpful....Thanks in advance...
KS>                             Have a gooder.
KS>                             Ken Short 1:134/3200 Fido
KS>



You're welcome to freq here the file PLANCONN.ZIP , which is a history/info/etc
of th OS/2 and PC problem ... Seems a fix is close at hand ..at least it's in
beta...

In summary, MOST users are completely unable to run PC on an OS/2 system ..
Only anternative is to Lan the OS/2 machine (as server) to a dedicated dos
machine which does the satellite thing ... Otherwise, wait ...

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From: JON ANDERSON                           Number: 819
  To: TOM TCIMPIDIS                            Date: 05/07/94 10:39a
Subj: Dongle and os/2                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 TT> KBRight now the speculation is that a few OS/2 gurus have
 TT> cracked the KBsecurity in your dongle/software and are using
 TT> your product in KBan "irregular" (don't want to say
 TT> "illegal" <g>) way.  We KBfurther speculate that Planet
 TT> Connect doesn't care if the KBsecurity has been cracked as


KB>The contract I signed and which was accepted by PC allows modification
KB>of the code for one's own use.  It specifically prohibits
KB>passing modified code to other people.  Fair enough.  You can't
KB>tell me who has the hacked code because he/she can't give it to
KB>me anyway.  Can you tell me how to hack it myself?  Something to
KB>do with debug, disk editor and NOP instructions?



This is intolerable: that there should be knowledge available to some which PC
might be aware of which at the same time is unavailable to other os/2'ers
who've invested in PC equipment, etc , and who cannot run it...



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From: JON ANDERSON                           Number: 820
  To: PETER CONWAY                             Date: 05/07/94 10:48a
Subj: Global connect                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PC>                         Why GLOBAL CONNECT?
PC>                         -------------------

PC>Now let's just say you want to call during the day, unheard of right??
PC>WRONG!

PC>If your currently using Plannet Connect or Pagesat to
PC>recieve you mail and using "PRICEYNet" to send  your mail back, then
PC>let's just show you what you can save by going with Global Connect:

PC>                     Price's compared on May 3, 1994


Not quite... You should have provided the full story:



PC>                       GLOBAL CONNECT         PRICEYNET
PC>                       --------------         ---------
PC>Setup Fee:                 $0.00               $50.00
PC>Domain Name:              $40.00               $25.00
PC>Monthly Fee:              $12.00                $6.00

and why was I charged $30/month, being a PC customer, too?





PC>Hourly Connect Fee:        $0.00                $4.00
PC>Long Distance Cost:        $0.18/min*           $0.24/min
PC>Storage Fee:               $0.00                $0.00 (soon to change)
PC>Per meg charge:            $0.00                $2.00/per meg after 1st
PC>Seperate Personal Account
PC>Included at NO charge:      YES                  NO
PC>Leased Line and
PC>SLIP/PPP Support     :      YES                  NO
PC>Dial-in 800 numbers  :      YES                  NO


Your 800 number is not free: it costs users $0.12 per minute.



PC>Support 7 days a week:      YES                  NO
PC>                          ------------         -------------
PC>Total Average yearly cost:$488.50              $722.50


Also, your signup agreement, at least for me, forced a 2month pre-pay (30 x 2 =
60) plus the $40 domain reg fee ... = $100 No real problem, but some might
appreciate the accuracy...



PC>* Global Connect is a registered trademark of Global Connect Inc.
PC>Prices based on 2 - 30 minute day-rate calls per day for 365 days
PC>at 14.4bps standard UUCP account access.


That stipulation was never mentioned to me ... Did you give me an entirely
different sort of account??





PC>Rates quoted by Global Connect are good ONLY for current Planet Connect
PC>or Pagesat Customers.


umm.

Jon Anderson
'gas.com' , once ya finish the setup for me ... and pending your comments on
the above ...



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From: JIM TAYLOR                             Number: 821
  To: OZZ NIXON                                Date: 05/08/94 10:23p
Subj: Re: Hello From Cheyenne                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> JT> Well, another try to see if I can get my mail back out to the PC
-> JT> and on to the rest of the world. If you see this let me know.
->
->         Its a workin'

Thanks, it only took me 2 months to get every thing set up. Shoot, I
still don't have the File-Echos set up, or a program to handle the
duplicate mail files that come in every day, but that is my next
project(s).

Thanks again.
Jim Taylor


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From: BILL CLARK                             Number: 822
  To: DAVE PETRUCCI                            Date: 05/08/94  7:42p
Subj: Re: Hobbies Echo                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a msg on <May 07 17:12>, Dave Petrucci of 1:2600/161 writes:

 >in Net 100 went to Planet Connect to begin with.  In the last
 >correspondence I had with Harvey Smith about the situation, Harvey was
 >considering yanking the HOBBIES echo out of FamilyNet and making it a
 >FidoNet originated echo, which would result in its traffic again
 >appearing over the satellite.
 >Ah....the games people play....
 >:-)  Bill, N100EC

 DP> Bill,
 DP>        Why can't it be in both places at the same time... ?
 DP> Dave P.

You'd have to ask the FamilyNet head, Bob Hoffman via netmail for an answer to
that.  He does not read this area.  I think he also has a FidoNet address, but
I don't recall what it is.

:-)  Bill

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From: MIKE NYMAN                             Number: 823
  To: JASON BAGINSKI                           Date: 05/08/94 11:08p
Subj: Tossers for .BAG's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Ah well, just relieving some frustration.
Hi Jason . that is what I was doing in the last message as well sorry if I
offended you .  >
 > 0.6 is the latest "official" version.  If you want to try
 > 0.6, freq XSH_0_6.ARJ from here(actualy, I think the XSH
I got it from your system . 2400 is a drag but I thought I should have a look.
> file area in on Plannet Connect, so you might have it
 > already sitting on your system) and shoot me off some
 > netmail if you have problems, until I'm informed of
 > specific problems, I can't exactly fix them, now can I?  :)
I was the guy that sent you a 300k pcusenet file with 3 bag files in it . net
mail that I sent with the file said that one of the bags was hanging the
program but the others processed just fine . I waited for a week and had not
heard back from you so I tryed all the other programs that I mentioned but none
of them did what I needed it to do so I called you and downloaded .6 and gave
it a try . All the problems I had with .4 I continued to have with .6 so I gave
up completly and told all my points that what thay where SOL and thay would
never see Internet out of my system again . At this point one of my points came
to see me and asked me to try again with a little program that he found . So to
shut the guy up I tryed it . To my suprise it made every thing work just fine .
I run it on the bag files and it restores them to the standards that you are
talking about . It takes the bags apart and scans for news groups that you
specifiey and then repacks the bag file but only with news groups you wanted .
there is also a config file that tells it what to put in the info spaces in the
bag file when it repacks it. like  TO: FROM: NEWSGROUPS: . It writes them in
the message and them packs the message back in the bag. and stores the bag in a
different directory. then I have XSH go to the processed bag files in the new
directoies and process them . as the BAG files have had there ID lines rewriten
and in the process only the news groups that I wanted are repacked thay are
processed by XSH just fine and XSH at that point takes very little time to run
. I had a look at the bag files that XSH had choked on and from what I could
tell the only files it hung on where ones with one message in the bag that had
been cross posted to ten or more areas and the news group names where more then
300 caricters long . I do not know if this was the problem but that is the only
weard thing I saw in the bags that messed up. As for changes in version .6 none
of them pertain to me . I am using XSH to toss the messages into *.MSG files
and then thay are processed by Gecho so all I am using it for is sorting the
messages and files them in the right directory long enough for gecho to come in
and toss them out into mail bags for my points. When I got .6 I tryed to have
it toss them into a hudson base but this still will not work in .6 . I am not
sure if this was as a result of it not making it through all the message areas
with out me having to reboot because XSH stoped on a bad bag or if it is
something wrong with the code but every time I tryed it it nuked my message
header file and I lost my whole message base (thank heavens for backups)<G>.  I
look forward to seeing wether or not you have any luck getting a handle on this
problem Jason and if I can give you a hand with bugreports I will keep sending
them. I would not give to much mind to the fools that say that " The programer
must be terrible " . I don't see any of them writing better. As a mater of fact
there are only about three or four programs out that are trying to do what XSH
is trying. So just flip them the bird and keep on pluging . later Guy.

                            .....Mike Nyman

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From: MIKE NYMAN                             Number: 824
  To: OZZ NIXON                                Date: 05/08/94 11:37p
Subj: Tossers for .BAG's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Ozz
 > for going from *.BAG to *.PKT ... but you don't have to
 > have a ton of
This is not what I am looking for. If you want to know what I dream about at
night , It is Gecho and all its areamgr features, un packing and menu driven
features . and lets see it able to handle BAG files as well as PKT files. That
is the one thing that would save me a lot of work. As it is now I have to set
up three config files by hand every time one of my points wants a new news
group.  > if you are
 > the 1st in your area the charge is only $60.00 a year ...
 > and yes our
Now this is where I start to scratch my head. I have to pay you every year to
run a product that I have never heard of and will not be able to try and see if
it fits my needs ? As there are only two places in the world to get bag files
(planet connect and one other sat. system) and this is the support echo for 50%
of of the mentioned dist. sites it would stand to reason that if you had Beta
tested this software some mention of it would have turned up here . As it has
not I can only guess that this is no fully tested software and I and others
here are going to have to hear a great deal more about this software before I
am going to send my cash any where.

                            .....Mike Nyman

 > tossers support areanames upto 255 characters - something
 > the otherguys
 > forgot. We also support direct interface to PCBoard, Hudson
 > Message
 > bases and GoldBase Message bases (squish and jam are at the
 > alpha
 > sites). And we now do Credit Cards :)...
 >
 > Send me netmail @ 1:18/201
 > C ya...
 >
 > Don't just give me the bird, I want Internet too... <grin>
 > --- Info System Technology (c) '94
 >  * Origin: Fidonet (tm) & (c) Tom Jennings {via SPoSnB%}
 > (1:18/201)

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From: MIKE NYMAN                             Number: 825
  To: JASON FESLER                             Date: 05/09/94 12:02a
Subj: Tossers for .BAG's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi again Jason
I sent you net mail about this and I left a message in this echo for you for
some time ago and never heard back from you so I was forced to give up on GIGO
. I have never been able to get DOS4GW to work with dos 6.2 and QEMM 7.03 and
the DOC on DOS4GW was of no help at all .
 > Strange .. what type of operating system are you running?
 > Most of us running GIGO _do_ use a memory manager :-)  I
 > use it all the time to handle distributing newsgroups to
 > approx 55 systems.

 >  MN> 32 bit emulatior and I also need a gate to gate outbound and
 > MN> an Internet address of my own.
 >
 > You do not have to route outbound traffic at all.  You just
 > need to configure the directories themselves, as though you
 > were.  They will remain empty.
 > If you need assistance, mail me.
This is the question I asked about last time when I expresed concerenes about
not having an internet address and it beeing a required field. Have you any
plans for an areamgr feature that would allow remote users to connect and
disconnect there own news groups and it to process all the other incoming mail
as well as the news groups. I am sorry for so many stupid questions at this
late date but it has been a long time now since I had a look at GIGO.Have a
good one Jason.later

                            .....Mike Nyman

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From: GREG ROSLER                            Number: 826
  To: JIM TAYLOR                               Date: 05/07/94  6:43a
Subj: Hello From Cheyenne                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RE: Hello From Cheyenne
BY: Jim Taylor on Thu May 05 1994 11:13 pm

You made it to Rio Rancho, New Mexico just fine.



Greg
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From: JACK WILLIAMS                          Number: 827
  To: BILL STARR                               Date: 05/08/94  8:33a
Subj: Re: Link Test                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to JACK WILLIAMS <05-06-94 10:14> BILL STARR wrote:

BS> I have had some suggestions from others to do the following:
BS>
BS> P <Filename>       1:3615/50
BS>
BS> This works to pass the message but creates mail packets back to
BS> Planet
BS> Connect and others. Then I have to go into Front Door Outbound
BS> Sub-Dir
BS> and delete all the packets created so they won't go back to PC. Any
BS> ideas?

I am not aware of what your tosser software is, but, have you tried it without
the 1:3615/50 in each line???  Your tosser is not seeing that the mail is from
1:3615/50 and is tossing it back to him.

BS> Also on the Genoloegy thingy, I have received a post card saying that
BS> I could obtain a Starr Family newspaper free for a look-see. I sent it
BS> back yesterday. Funny that you should mention it also. I think I will
BS> subscribe as it is only $12 a year.

Excellent idea, ..... were/are any of your folks from North Carolina????

Regards, Jack

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From: JACK WILLIAMS                          Number: 828
  To: JIM TAYLOR                               Date: 05/08/94  8:39a
Subj: Re: Hello From Cheyenne                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <05-05-94 23:13> Jim Taylor wrote:

JT> Well, another try to see if I can get my mail back out to the PC BBS,
JT> and on to the rest of the world. If you see this let me know.

Hi, Jim. You're reaching Fredericksburg, VA.

We sure would like to have a Wyoming BBS in our IGA_Net<tm>...
IGA_Net<tm> is the International Genealogy Association Network. It is a
genealogy-only network which goes worldwide. By carrying genealogy on your
board, you can assure that you develop at least a small core of serious users
on the board.

Please FREQ the file IGA-INFO.Z01 from 1:274/30 if you are at all interested.
Here's a cordial welcome to you to join with us.

Regards, Jack

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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 829
  To: DAVE PETRUCCI                            Date: 05/08/94  6:03p
Subj: Re: Is It Me????                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DP> Joe,
DP>       The sysop prices for the ZOOM 28.8k's are as follows..
DP>       $139  - Internal
DP>       $159  - External
DP> Dave P.

Thanks Dave,
I am very interested in purchasing 6 of these but kinda scared they won't be
compatable with other 14.4 & 28.8 modes.
Do you happen to know if the compatability problem has been worked out?

-Joe
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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 830
  To: OZZ NIXON                                Date: 05/08/94  6:05p
Subj: Re: Is It Me????                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ON>        Call 1-800-822-8224 ... then (if I recall right the next two
ON> menu option on the phone are 3 then 2 ...) but ask for the fax for
ON> the28800's for 149.00 form the MNP people themselves Microcom! This
ON> versiondoes not support the parallel interface, but who cares? The
ON> 249 versionsupports parallel but only has class 1 fax (yuk).

ON> enjoy the crackle of the baud!

Thanks, I am going to order a few of them as soon as I find out the
compatibility of them with other modems..

-Joe
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From: CHUCK WARREN                           Number: 831
  To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY                          Date: 05/08/94 10:09a
Subj: Re: Unused Echomail Msgs                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JH-> CW>    I have a newer version of PCAREAs that I'm about to release.
JH-> CW>    It will search the designated BADMSG sub-dir and add those
JH-> CW>    to your AREAS.BBS for ya.  It will also ; (comment) the ones
JH-> CW>    that are no longer shown in FIDONET.NA/NO, and at the same
JH-> CW>    time, add new passthru's.

JH->Gosh...I _NEED_ this program <G>.  Hope it will be coming to us via
JH->Planet Connect.

    It's done, just need to work up some quick docs for it.

    Chuck


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From: BERT HAPPEL                            Number: 832
  To: LORI SMITH                               Date: 05/08/94  9:42p
Subj: Test                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Looking for verification that this message is getting out via Planet Connect.

Thanks.

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From: GEORGE VANDERVORT                      Number: 833
  To: ART MACK                                 Date: 05/09/94  1:44p
Subj: ILLEGAL?                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Art!

Sunday May 08 1994 12:00, Art Mack wrote to Boyd Goodwin:

 AM> Hello Boyd!
 AM>
 AM> Since april 18th been getting an Ilegal connect message in the log when
 AM> 201/01 connects to you? Whats going on Boyd, the mail aint flowing.

     ^^^^^^
     is this a Typo?

 AM>
 AM> NFE BBS   nfe.com   1:201/70   317-447-9653
 AM>
 AM>  * WCE 1.5/2087 * NFE Multiline 25 Gigs  nfe.com  1:201/70  317-447-9653
 AM>
 AM> -+- WM v3.10/92-0555
 AM>  + Origin: NFE BBS Lafayette IN, 317-447-9653  nfe.com  (1:201/70.0)

Hmmm.. I could not find 1:201/01 in my Current FidoNet nodelist..

1:201/1  without the /0 in front of the 1 was listed to your name..

Regards,
George Vandervort - NET382 NEC
 ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb

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From: GEORGE VANDERVORT                      Number: 834
  To: PAUL BENDER                              Date: 05/09/94  1:52p
Subj: Disk Space Needed?                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Paul!

Saturday May 07 1994 18:13, Paul Bender wrote to All:

 PB> The network where I belong has begun to consider getting a Planet Connect
 PB> dish, but we've been told that the disk space needed is quite a large
 PB> amount.  I would be interested in comments from current Planet Connect
 PB> customers on how much disk space is required for successfully processing
 PB> the typical Fidonet Message Backbone and Filebone.
 PB>
 PB>         Thanks in Advance...
 PB>
 PB> ... Anything for Free, Is Worth what You Paid for It....
 PB> -+- FMail 0.96Γ
 PB>  + Origin: Rassi's Retreat - Green Bay, Wi - Supra V.32b/V.42b (1:139/570)

I just took a look at the HD on the Computer connected to the Satelite Dish.
not counting the Space for MSDOS 5.0, or any files in my TOOLS/UTILITY
directory..

Just the Planet Connect utilities, Plus the 15 Plus megs of NEWSGROUP Internet
Bundles, and 18 megs of FILEBONE stuff, plus an average of 8 to 10 megs of the
700 plus FidoNet Backbone mail, not counting all the other stuff that comes in
over the Satellite every day..

IMHO, a 40 meg drive is way to small.. a 60 meg drive might be big enough for
the bare minimum.. but you would have to move 90 % of the stuff off of it as
soon as it came in and optimize the drive often..

Also, it's been my experience that you need at least a 286/12 oe /16 mhz with 1
meg or more with a 16550AFN Uart Chip on the RS232, or your experience lots of
CRC Errors on the Files/Mail Bundles received..

My setup uses two seperate computers..
a 386dx40 with a 345meg IDE connected to the Dish and all Files and Mail are
then transfered from the 386 to my 486dx33 via a LAN setup and the mail bundles
are then processed for delivery by my 486.. with has 2 345meg IDE HD's..

Regards,
George Vandervort
 ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb

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From: JOHN MORAN                             Number: 835
  To: DAVE CALAFRANCESCO                       Date: 05/08/94  7:14a
Subj: Pc & desqview                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

have you thought of trying UNIX ?? Unix is a great multiuser, multi-tasking
operating system. I have unix on this machine they also use it where I work to
run a database that tracks inventory and customer call histories. I am using
SCO UNIX but there are many differnt flavors of unix available. With unix, you
also have to make a choice of which SHELL you want to use. Each has its
advantages and disadvantages. JOHN /s
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From: DAVE PETRUCCI                          Number: 836
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 05/09/94  9:14p
Subj: Re: Is It Me????                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

 >DP>       The sysop prices for the ZOOM 28.8k's are as follows..
 >DP>       $139  - Internal

 >Thanks Dave,
 >I am very interested in purchasing 6 of these but kinda scared they won't
 >be compatable with other 14.4 & 28.8 modes.
 >Do you happen to know if the compatability problem has been worked out?
 >-Joe

Joe,
       I haven't had any problems connecting with any of sort
       of modem..... yet... 8-)
       From what I've seen in the ZOOM echo and from my experiences,
       the ZOOM 28.8k's connect just fine with other V.FC modems...
       ie.. Hayes, Supra, Zoom, Boca, USR, Microcom...etc..
Dave P.

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From: ROB NELSON                             Number: 837
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 05/09/94 12:36p
Subj: Re: InterNet Mail delays??              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> are OLD when we get them... todays (5/4/94) messages are dated from from
> 4/28
> to 4/29!!!  These messages are 5 to 6 days old!  Is this temporary??
> Putting
 BG>
 BG>    We have concluded that it is a problem with our provider
 BG> and they are working on fixing it. They have to monitor it
 BG> to see where the bottle-neck is. Hopefully we will see an
 BG> improvement over the next week.

This is something I have been wondering about myself.  I have a question Boyd..
When I renewed my PC subscription last time, you mentioned that the newsgroups
would be protected on the data stream in about a week, so I subscribed at that
time.  That was over three weeks ago, and they are still comming over for all
to receive, yet I and probably many others are paying for a newsgroup
subscription. Will our accounts be credited for this time delay in protecting
the newsgroup feed?

Another question..  If this bottleneck, time-lag problem persists at your
newsgroup source, will you find another source?   Week old mail isn't going to
draw very many subscribers to the newsgroups.

Cheers,
           Rob
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From: JOHN PLEGGE                            Number: 838
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 05/09/94  4:20p
Subj: Microcom/Spitfire/PC                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

Joe,
   I'm running a single computer system here with the satellite data receiver,
Spitfire v3.4, and a Microcom Deskporte FAST ES 28.8 modem.  I haven't noticed
any problems with other modems connecting to mine.
   There are two other SF BBS's in my area running Microcom modems (one is the
serial model, the other is parallel).  Neither of them have reported any
compatibility problems.

        --John
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From: CHUCK WARREN                           Number: 839
  To: GEORGE VANDERVORT                        Date: 05/09/94  5:33p
Subj: unused echomail msgs w/Wi               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GV->I use your Last release of PCAREAS All the time.. and it works great...

GV->However, based on you comments about a New release that will comment out ar
GV->that are not in FIDONET.NA/NO??

GV->how will this effect topic areas like K12-HWY and many other Areas such as
GV->regional or local Net topics, that are not listed in FIDONET.NA/NO??

GV->Inquiring Minds want to know?  :-)

   They would be placed in PCAREA.NA, which is a catch-all file for
   areas that don't appear in the FIDONET.* files.

   - or -

   You can also have it check any other *.NA files you specify in the
   control file.


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From: CHUCK WARREN                           Number: 840
  To: ELVIS HARGROVE                           Date: 05/09/94  5:33p
Subj: netmail                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EH->Yep!  We did that.  UNfortunately, today we found out that they'd typed it
EH->ANOTHER net's address.  (A typo that I make frequently so I fully understan

EH->This may actually GO OUT!
EH->All appropriate appendages crossed and re crossed.

   Got it!

   Chuck


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From: BILL WOLF                              Number: 841
  To: MIKE NYMAN                               Date: 05/09/94  6:51p
Subj: Tossers for .BAG's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Hi again Jason
 > I sent you net mail about this and I left a message in
 > this echo for you for some time ago and never heard
 > back from you so I was forced to give up on GIGO . I
 > have never been able to get DOS4GW to work with dos
 > 6.2 and QEMM 7.03 and the DOC on DOS4GW was of no help

Sorry for butting into the conversation, but what version of GIGO have you
tried, and what processor are you running?

I've been running GIGO under 6.2, 7.03 for quite sometime, and haven't had any
problems whatsoever with it.   I am now running under 7.04.   What exactly is
the problem?   Are you swapping?

TakeCare,
Bill

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From: HENRY MOORE                            Number: 842
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 05/09/94  6:29p
Subj: Service complaint                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Boyd,
 I'm not sure who's in charge of the Planet Connect company but I feel
 someone should be aware the disorganization concerning service. First,
 I greatly appreciated the extremely quick response in sending me a new
 LNB...called one afternoon and had the LNB the next morning...I was
 very impressed....sorry to say that didn't fix the problem. I called
 back the next day and was told that I needed a new KU band receiver.
 The problem, though, was that you (Planet Systems) didn't have any in
 stock and I'd have to wait till a shipment came in. The person I talked
 to didn't have any idea how long it would be and assured me that there
 would be no need to call back...as soon as one came in, it would be
 shipped out to me. Okay....I figured I'd not be a bother as I'm sure
 you were very busy with the new company. I waited a week and called
 back. I was then told something about the shipment being held up in the
 Canadian/US customs and it should be arriving within a few days. Okay,
 I've run a business before and understand backorders and other delays.
 I waited another week before calling. This time I was told there was
 absolutely no record of me needing a receiver. I'll let you guess how
 high my blood pressure got<grin>. I prey this is an isolated case. I'm
 sure you can imagine the hardship being without your service has caused
 me. On the otherhand, I certainly don't mind being sent a renewal
 notice quoting a single user price when I'm refeeding. Between poor
 service and underquoting the subscription, I'm surprised ya'll are
 still in business<grin>. Thanks for letting me vent some frustration
 and I look forward to a long association with Planet Connect. Mistakes
 can happen and I'm sure that's all it was. (I'll call and get the
 subscription boo-boo straighten out.)

 * OLX 2.2 * It's only a hobby ... only a hobby ... only a


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From: PATTY MORRIS                           Number: 843
  To: JIM TAYLOR                               Date: 05/09/94  3:11p
Subj: Hello From Cheyenne                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jim Taylor wrote in a message to All:

JT> Well, another try to see if I can get my mail back out to
JT> the PC BBS, and on to the rest of the world. If you see this
JT> let me know.

    Hi Jim, long time no type.  :)

                      --)@  Patty  @(--

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From: BOYD GOODIN                            Number: 844
  To: JON ANDERSON                             Date: 05/10/94 11:28a
Subj: Re: Dongle and os/2                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> This is intolerable: that there should be knowledge available to some
> which PC might be aware of which at the same time is unavailable to other
> os/2'ers who've invested in PC equipment, etc , and who cannot run it...

    I have heard this since the beginning but have yet to see any broken
version of our software.


...Boyd

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From: TIM FIERRO                             Number: 845
  To: PAUL BENDER                              Date: 05/09/94  3:33p
Subj: Disk Space Needed?                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PB> The network where I belong has begun to consider getting a Planet Connect
PB> dish, but we've been told that the disk space needed is quite a large
PB> amount.  I would be interested in comments from current Planet Connect
PB> customers on how much disk space is required for successfully processing
PB> the typical Fidonet Message Backbone and Filebone.

FidoNet EchoMail Backbone for my system is like this;

Drive F: has 299 echomail conferences in a 110mb partition.
Drive G: has 350 echomail conferences ina  110mb partition.

I have about 45mb free at any given time on each drive.  I pack
the message bases nightly to keep only 7 days worth of mail.

This is my system and your milage will vary, but I find it works
well like this when I devote 220mb do just doing FidoNet
Echomail.  You could keep more or less days of mail and get
differing results to fine tune to your needs.


The Racer's Edge Network Delivery System * TRENDS! [phone]/939-7876

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From: RANDY EDWARDS                          Number: 846
  To: PAUL BENDER                              Date: 05/10/94  6:30a
Subj: Disk Space Needed?                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On May 07 18:13 94, Paul Bender of 1:139/570 wrote:

 PB> The network where I belong has begun to consider getting a Planet
 PB> Connect dish, but we've been told that the disk space needed is quite a
 PB> large amount.  I would be interested in comments from current Planet
 PB> Connect customers on how much disk space is required for successfully
 PB> processing the typical Fidonet Message Backbone and Filebone.

   Hmm, that depends on how you're going to do the processing.  I'd recommend
dedicating a computer to the satellite dish -- have that computer's task only
being sucking in data from the bird.  You can then send the data that your
"dish computer" gets to another computer via a network link or a serial cable
null modem for processing.

   The amount of disk space you'll need on your "dish computer" is pretty
trivial.  If you delete files after they're sent off to your "processing
computer" for processing, then if you keep things tidy you can get away with a
40 meg drive in your "dish computer."

   As far as the amount of disk space you'll need on your processing computer,
this of course will depend on how many links you are feeding.  You can figure
this computer will be holding 5-10 megs of archived mail files (for planning
purposes use the high figures), which will extract into 10-25 megs of *.PKT
files during echomail processing.  You'll then get anywhere from 5-15 megs of
file-echos each day for processing.  Gee, that adds up to quite a bit now,
doesn't it?! :-)  Figure on needing *at least* 60 megs or so to process mail
and files, more if you're feeding a lot of downlinks.

   Of course, by using pass-thru areas for echomail conferences you can avoid
having to carry everything on your hard drives, and you'll probably want to
kill file areas quickly (there's a ton of "delete files older than X days"
utilities out there).  So you don't really need a whole lot of space over and
above that 60+ megs, but like I said, if I were you I'd dedicated a machine to
handling the dish traffic and figure at least 60 megs of disk space on another
machine for processing the data.
.
Randy                                 BBS [phone] (V.FC)
FidoNet 1:325/806 1:325/805           InterNet [e-mail]

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From: RANDY EDWARDS                          Number: 847
  To: BERT HAPPEL                              Date: 05/10/94  6:23p
Subj: Test                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On May 08 21:42 94, Bert Happel of 1:2255/10@fidonet wrote:

 BH> Looking for verification that this message is getting out via Planet
 BH> Connect.

   Well, you reached the woods in the Northeast Kingdom of Vermont.  And it
didn't get here any other way 'cept through the dish!  :-)
.
Randy                                 BBS [phone] (V.FC)
FidoNet 1:325/806 1:325/805           InterNet [e-mail]

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From: CHRIS ROSS                             Number: 848
  To: BILL CLARK                               Date: 05/09/94  8:27a
Subj: Re: Ilink                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >Sounds like a config problem with your ACONFIG.SKY.  No Ilink files have
 >wound up in the SKYDATA directory here, or in any of the directories below
 >SKYDATA.

       It happens when you didn't upgrade to the new Aconfig.sky that came
over the bird.

  Chris

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From: CHRIS ROSS                             Number: 849
  To: PAUL BENDER                              Date: 05/09/94 10:37p
Subj: Re: Disk Space Needed?                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >The network where I belong has begun to consider getting a Planet Connect
 >dish, but we've been told that the disk space needed is quite a large
 >amount.  I would be interested in comments from current Planet Connect
 >customers on how much disk space is required for successfully processing
 >the typical Fidonet Message Backbone and Filebone.

       452 meg devoted drive here.  But you could probably get by with 150 to
simply store the info in before you tossed it somewhere else.  I've heard of
systems with 85 meg drives.

       It all depends on what you keep and what you want to delete.

 Chris

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From: ART MACK                               Number: 850
  To: ROB NELSON                               Date: 05/10/94  6:58p
Subj: Re: InterNet Mail delays??              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Rob!

In a message to Boyd Goodin <05/09/94> Rob Nelson wrote:


RN> would be protected on the data stream in about a week, so I subscribed at
RN> time.  That was over three weeks ago, and they are still comming over for
RN> to receive, yet I and probably many others are paying for a newsgroup
RN> subscription. Will our accounts be credited for this time delay in protec
RN> the newsgroup feed?

Same here, I didn't realise however that all could still get them for free!



RN> Another question..  If this bottleneck, time-lag problem persists at your
RN> newsgroup source, will you find another source?   Week old mail isn't goi
RN> draw very many subscribers to the newsgroups.

yes, could we call it Stale Mail? its a bit long in the tooth!


NFE BBS   nfe.com   1:201/70   317-447-9653

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From: JOHN DARROW                            Number: 851
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/09/94  8:53p
Subj: Planet Connect and Macintosh            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Anyone know if you can connect a Macintosh running Novalink Professional to
Planet Connect???  Any leads whatsoever would be greatly appreciated!!!


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From: OZZ NIXON                              Number: 852
  To: JIM TAYLOR                               Date: 05/10/94  1:35p
Subj: Re: Hello From Cheyenne                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


In a message to Ozz Nixon <05-08-94 22:23> Jim Taylor wrote:

JT> ->         Its a workin'
JT>
JT> Thanks, it only took me 2 months to get every thing set up. Shoot, I
JT> still don't have the File-Echos set up, or a program to handle the
JT> duplicate mail files that come in every day, but that is my next
JT> project(s).

        Jim,

        Send netmail to me, and I will gladly packup all my directories
and utilities (its not that big), I have been fully automated now for
about 5-6 months. I have written almost all the 'utilities' needed for
making the flow smooth and more acurate.

        Glad to see another PC Dish in use!
        G.E. Ozz Nixon Jr.
        Info System Technology
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From: OZZ NIXON                              Number: 853
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 05/10/94  1:42p
Subj: Re: Is It Me????                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No


In a message to Ozz Nixon <05-08-94 18:05> Joe Hayes wrote:

JH> Thanks, I am going to order a few of them as soon as I find out the
JH> compatibility of them with other modems..

        There are 5 or 6 BBSes locally with Microcom, 2-3 with Hayes and
I think one Zoomer ... all but the zoom enjoy it. There are a couple USR
21600's in town also ... and everyone says they get good clean 21600
connects too...

        I think the local net went to using a VFC flag a couple weeks
ago if you wanna netmail a couple for their opinions :)

        Its Net 362 <#1 hell bent net, next to nashville!> <grin>!

Ozz
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From: JASON FESLER                           Number: 854
  To: MIKE NYMAN                               Date: 05/10/94  7:31a
Subj: Tossers for .BAG's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike Nyman writes:

 MN> Hi again Jason
 MN> I sent you net mail about this and I left a message in this
 MN> echo for you for some time ago and never heard back from you

I replied to the netmail, I don't remember about the echomail - I don't
regularly visit this echo, as I do not have Planet Connect yet.  Chances are,
that my netmail was undeliverable, as you are a point and never called back,
and the brain-dead mail packer I am running right now doesn't understand that
you should send crash netmail to the boss node instead.  (Making my _own_ mail
packer because of it, too, sigh).

 MN> so I was forced to give up on GIGO . I have never been able
 MN> to get DOS4GW to work with dos 6.2 and QEMM 7.03 and the DOC
 MN> on DOS4GW was of no help at all .

Not a clue for you, on this one, especially since that is my exact setup over
here.  Make sure you have enough memory, is all I can say - you don't specify
how much you have.  GIGO wants (depending on setup) 650k-1300k of
EMS/DPMI/VCPI/etc.  Conventional memory doesn't count for much (it _is_ used,
depending on setup, but not for the primary program or the message buffers).

Here's my config.sys for QEMM..

DEVICE=C:\QEMM\DOSDATA.SYS
set loadhidata=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.RF
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS RAM SH:N ST:M RF
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\DOS-UP.SYS @C:\QEMM\DOS-UP.DAT
rem DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /RF C:\QEMM\QDPMI.SYS SWAPFILE=DPMI.SWP

 MN> This is the question I asked about last time when I expresed
 MN> concerenes about not having an internet address and it
 MN> beeing a required field. Have you any plans for an areamgr
 MN> feature that would allow remote users to connect and
 MN> disconnect there own news groups and it to process all the
 MN> other incoming mail as well as the news groups. I am sorry
 MN> for so many stupid questions at this late date but it has
 MN> been a long time now since I had a look at GIGO.Have a good
 MN> one Jason.later

When you show me an internet standard for it, yes, I'll make you an areafix
parser.  Unfortunately, there _is_ no standard method for internet sites to
request what they want.  In addition, GIGO is only going to be a feed to your
system, and not a full-fledge mail tosseer with downlinks, etc.  Your normal
fidonet software will have to handle the hubbing requirements if you are
planning on distributing anything.

If you want what I use for _my_ host, I'll be glad to give it to you - but it
won't do you any good, nobody else in the world is using his software!  (Yes,
my setup is automated, but it requires a lot of custom work at each and every
site for their specific setup, and only if _their_ host has an automated method
of getting newsgroups..).

Jason Fesler
[e-mail]
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From: MIKE LESTER                            Number: 855
  To: JON ANDERSON                             Date: 05/10/94 12:58a
Subj: Lightning arrestor                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jon Anderson wrote in a message to Nate Chase:

 JD>device in the coax; it can be bought from the Planet Connect
 JD>folks or probably any local satellite dealer.


NC>Boyd (et all),
NC>        Whats the price of your Arrestor and is it guarenteed?

JA> ummm.... interesting:  just how   could one gaurantee  that
JA> any device (even a granite boulder!) would function properly
JA> if hit by lightening??

   I sell a UPS that guarantees that if your system is harmed by a
   "hit" they will replace it, up to a $25,000 limit..they are kinda
    pricey, but they havent had to replace any systems i have sold.

   about the Granite Boulder, i bet it would still be a boulder, even
   after it took a "hit" and still function as a bolder. b=>}

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From: GEORGE VANDERVORT                      Number: 856
  To: MIKE LESTER                              Date: 05/11/94 10:18p
Subj: Lightning arrestor                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Mike!

Tuesday May 10 1994 00:58, Mike Lester wrote to Jon Anderson:

 NC>> Boyd (et all),
 NC>> Whats the price of your Arrestor and is it guaranteed?
 ML>
 JA>> ummm.... interesting:  just how   could one guarantee  that
 JA>> any device (even a granite boulder!) would function properly
 JA>> if hit by lightening??
 ML>
 ML>    about the Granite Boulder, i bet it would still be a boulder, even
 ML>    after it took a "hit" and still function as a bolder. b=>}
 ML>

Heck.. here in Central TEXAS, we have some BIG Boulders...

but if hit just right by a Bolt of lightening...
they could be broken up into lots of pebbles?  <grin>

Regards,
George Vandervort
 ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb

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From: GUY VANDELL                            Number: 857
  To: DAVE PETRUCCI                            Date: 05/11/94  2:37p
Subj: Re: Is It Me????                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Dave Petrucci wrote in a message to Joe Hayes:

 >DP>       The sysop prices for the ZOOM 28.8k's are as follows..
 >DP>       $139  - Internal

 >Thanks Dave,
 >I am very interested in purchasing 6 of these but kinda scared they won't
 >be compatable with other 14.4 & 28.8 modes.
 >Do you happen to know if the compatability problem has been worked out?
 >-Joe

DP> Joe,
DP>        I haven't had any problems connecting with any of
DP> sort        of modem..... yet... 8-)
DP>        From what I've seen in the ZOOM echo and from my
DP> experiences,        the ZOOM 28.8k's connect just fine with
DP> other V.FC modems...        ie.. Hayes, Supra, Zoom, Boca,
DP> USR, Microcom...etc..

my microcom has connected just fine to zoom, and hayes and USR, haven't tried
the other two yet, however it took a little while to get it configured..

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From: GUY VANDELL                            Number: 858
  To: JOHN PLEGGE                              Date: 05/11/94  8:30p
Subj: Microcom/Spitfire/PC                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

John Plegge wrote in a message to Joe Hayes:

JP> Joe,
JP>    I'm running a single computer system here with the
JP> satellite data receiver, Spitfire v3.4, and a Microcom
JP> Deskporte FAST ES 28.8 modem.  I haven't noticed any
JP> problems with other modems connecting to mine.
JP>    There are two other SF BBS's in my area running Microcom
JP> modems (one is the serial model, the other is parallel).
JP> Neither of them have reported any compatibility problems.

do you have the problem with your microcom deskporte fast ES getting stuck
onhook?

what's your init string with that?

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From: ELVIS HARGROVE                         Number: 859
  To: ART MACK                                 Date: 05/10/94 11:15a
Subj: ILLEGAL?                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*@ORIGIN :BOO!  Board Of Occult  McAllen Tx.                          N
-> Since april 18th been getting an Ilegal connect message in the log when
-> 201/01

Hey Art, maybe your node is where they put OUR password!

I think our mail is back ON again.

^..^
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From: RAY SNOW                               Number: 860
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 05/10/94  2:44a
Subj: Re-zipping                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Boyd:

Last week there was a fair amount of spirited discussion regarding some RIME
mail packets that had apparently been rezipped (altering the zip date/time)
after receipt from Bonnie.

This problem surfaced when some of the mail packets had corrupted zip headers,
but the originals from Bonnie with the original file dates/times were clean and
spotlessly good.

Also, there was some debate on the single transmissions of the RIME zips and
how to identify/handle "missing" mail packets in a sequence of 5-8 zip packets
daily.


Questions:

1. Has PC taken any steps to prevent any re-zipping/date alterations
   or other things which could alter the integrity of the RIME
   mail packets?

2. Would a second transmission of the RIME packets daily be an
   immediate option, to overlap and correct any "missing" situations?

   Suggestion: Transmit all mail net packets/files thru TWO full
   cycles. Then transmit the other "regular" files. Mail integrity
   is my *first* and *foremost* concern. I delete most of the junk
   files and my reasons for use of your PC services focuses around
   the RIME mail in super-crucial mode.

Your prompt response would be appreciated greatly. And I would be happy to
convey its contents to others voicing these same concerns.

Thank you.
===
 * SLMR 2.1a * How do I set my laser printer to the 'stun' position?
 * Rocky Mountain Software  Salt Lake City, Ut  801-963-8721
 * PostLink(tm) v1.20 ROCKYMTN (#1384) : RelayNet(tm)

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From: MIKE NYMAN                             Number: 861
  To: DAVID UNFRIED                            Date: 05/10/94  8:00p
Subj: Tossers for .BAG's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi David.
 >  MN> to gate outbound and an Internet address of my own.
 >
 > Having and address of your own seems a good idea to me.
As it also seams to me . But I was under the impesion that to get an address
you must have an account with some one that has access and at present I have
not found any one that I can afford to get access from in conjunction with the
cost for LD.  > I had the same exact experience with GIGO. It set up OK,
 > and seemed to do the trick, but couldn't be run on one of
 > my BBS nodes on the LAN which requires memory managers,
 > TSRs and all kinds of tricks to get everything else to run.
Ya this is the problem that I had.  I have the system so strangly set up that I
have to be very carful what I run or it will fall Like a house of cards. Well I
have it working now but I need to find a way to automate it so so I may be
changing things. Thanks a lot for the sejestions David.

                            .....Mike Nyman

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From: MIKE NYMAN                             Number: 862
  To: BILL WOLF                                Date: 05/10/94  8:18p
Subj: Tossers for .BAG's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Sorry for butting into the conversation, but what version
 > of GIGO have you tried, and what processor are you running?
 >
 > I've been running GIGO under 6.2, 7.03 for quite sometime,
 > and haven't had any problems whatsoever with it.   I am now
 > running under 7.04.   What exactly is the problem?   Are
 > you swapping?
 >
 > TakeCare,
 > Bill
I didn't want to alarm you Bill . I am running Lantastics AI as well . I do not
know if this is a part of the problem. The thing is any software that I run
with DOS4GW must be run in a clean computer. when running any of thease
programs I must reboot or trying to run this program crashes my computer every
time . All I can think of is that I do not have Qemm  set up right to run this
software or I am missing a flag for DOS4GW for prober operation. Ether way I
found the doc wanting when I went looking for an answer. So in conclusion If
you got it running at all You far beond where I ever got with this software.
Enjoy the news groups. later

                            .....Mike Nyman

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From: MIKE NYMAN                             Number: 863
  To: JASON BAGINSKI                           Date: 05/10/94  9:01p
Subj: Re: Tossers for .BAG's                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > That's from where I gathered the date problem.. :)
Glad I could Help. Have you found an answer for this problem?
 >
 > Routed netmail..oh what wonderful reliability..<sigh>
 > That's why I've sent this via this echo instead of trying
 > to respond to the netmail cross post you sent me.  Besides,
You know I kind of thought that might be the problem.
 >
 >  MN>the bag files that XSH had choked on and from what I could tell the
 > MN>only files it hung on where ones with one message in the bag that
 > MN>had been cross posted to ten or more areas and the news group names
 > MN>where more then 300 caricters long . I do not know if this was the
 >
 > XSH should be able to process 30 group names at 80
 > characters a piece and 1K lines...In the PCUSENET.TXT file
Sorry if this was a dead end but not being a programer or fermiliar with the
code for XSH I saw this as the only noticable thing in the bags . I am glad to
hear you found the bag I sent more informitive then I did.  > I last got, none
of the newsgroup names where over 50
 > characters..so..I'd assumed it was safe..what would you
 > consider accceptable standards for that?  (since, you
 > actualy see these things on a regular basis...)
I do not think you would have a problem with this if all the names stay below
50 letters but I was concerened that the number of crossposts in one name field
would carry this number well over 50 letters on a reguler bases. One internet
user I saw the other day wile tossing mail crossposted his message to 27
different news groups. As most newsgroup names are about 10 letters long this
name field was about 270 letters.  > One thing to remember is that I'm just a
node off of a hub,
 > single network, no downlinks, and at 2400 baud.  I don't
 > get to do a lot of direct testing on what XSH can do, all
 > my specs come from..well..specs.  Actual practice is a lot
 > of times radicaly different.
Not a prob . I asume this is why we see you in here so much . got to check up
on your baby.  >
 >  MN>When I got .6 I tryed to have it toss them into a hudson base but
 > MN>this still will not work in .6 . I am not sure if this was as a
 >
 > Uhh..I've never had a problem with hudson importing.
 > Remember, Hudson message base format only handles 200
So far I am just trying to run 20 areas and with the great volume out of the
PCUSENET files it still takes about 2hours on a 386 25  > message areas,
goldbase 512.  If you where trying to import
 > into more than that..it'd barf, remember, I don't check if
 > the guy who made the config file was awake? :)  Actualy, I
 > didn't add that titbit of information until the 0.6 docs(I
 > hadn't thought of it really)
 >  MN>me having to reboot because XSH stoped on a bad bag or if it is
 > MN>something wrong with the code but every time I tryed it it nuked my
 > MN>message header file and I lost my whole message base (thank heavens
 >
 > If it'd locked up and you rebooted, yes, it'd more than
 > likely trash the header file, XSH keeps those things open
 > as long as possible and
 > it is buffered read/writes.
So this has been the major problem I have been having with Hudson base
configuration. keeping the Hudson base open for 2+ hours is not only dagerous
but it also makes the message base unacesable to my bbs software one the other
computer in the otherside of the network as a result my bbs is down for 2+
hours so I think I will have to stick with *.msg areas. Later Jason.

                            .....Mike Nyman

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From: MIKE NYMAN                             Number: 864
  To: JASON FESLER                             Date: 05/11/94  7:20p
Subj: Tossers for .BAG's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Jason
 > have Planet Connect yet.  Chances are, that my netmail was
 > undeliverable, as you are a point and never called back,
Sorry but I write all my mail on my point system so that I do not take time
away from my users . But I am 120 as well as 120.1  > and the brain-dead mail
packer I am running right now
 > doesn't understand that you should send crash netmail to
 > the boss node instead.  (Making my _own_ mail packer
 > because of it, too, sigh).
 > Not a clue for you, on this one, especially since that is
 > my exact setup over here.  Make sure you have enough
 > memory, is all I can say - you don't specify how much you
 > have.  GIGO wants (depending on setup) 650k-1300k of
This is probably the problem right here . I have four megs in the computer that
tosses the mail and 2megs in the bbc computer . and with the number of tsr's
and casches running in each computer there is no room to run a program that is
that memory intensive. Thank you very much for explaining that as I was
begining to think that my computer was way off standard. I just need some more
memory.( know where I could get some 4meg simms CHEEP! ) <GRIN> Well the system
I have is working for now but I will keep GIGO in mind if I get some more
memory . Thanks for the info Jason. Later

                            .....Mike Nyman

 > EMS/DPMI/VCPI/etc.  Conventional memory doesn't count for
 > much (it _is_ used, depending on setup, but not for the
 > primary program or the message buffers).
 >
 > Here's my config.sys for QEMM..
 >
 > DEVICE=C:\QEMM\DOSDATA.SYS
 > set loadhidata=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.RF
 > DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS RAM SH:N ST:M RF
 > DEVICE=C:\QEMM\DOS-UP.SYS @C:\QEMM\DOS-UP.DAT
 > rem DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /RF C:\QEMM\QDPMI.SYS
 > SWAPFILE=DPMI.SWP
 >
 >  MN> This is the question I asked about last time when I expresed
 > MN> concerenes about not having an internet address and it
 >  MN> beeing a required field. Have you any plans for an areamgr
 > MN> feature that would allow remote users to connect and
 >  MN> disconnect there own news groups and it to process all the
 > MN> other incoming mail as well as the news groups. I am sorry
 > MN> for so many stupid questions at this late date but it has
 > MN> been a long time now since I had a look at GIGO.Have a good
 > MN> one Jason.later
 >
 > When you show me an internet standard for it, yes, I'll
 > make you an areafix parser.  Unfortunately, there _is_ no
 > standard method for internet sites to request what they
 > want.  In addition, GIGO is only going to be a feed to your
 > system, and not a full-fledge mail tosseer with downlinks,
 > etc.  Your normal fidonet software will have to handle the
 > hubbing requirements if you are planning on distributing
 > anything.
 >
 > If you want what I use for _my_ host, I'll be glad to give
 > it to you - but it won't do you any good, nobody else in
 > the world is using his software!  (Yes, my setup is
 > automated, but it requires a lot of custom work at each and
 > every site for their specific setup, and only if _their_
 > host has an automated method of getting newsgroups..).
 >
 > Jason Fesler
 > [e-mail]
 > --- timEd 1.01.b1+
 >  * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1)

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From: MAC BRYANT                             Number: 865
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 05/10/94  6:13a
Subj: U'NI Net                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  Hello, Boyd!

  Have you given any thought to my suggestion of updating LEDGE.QWK so
  it's not almost 2 days old when we get it via the satellite?

  Thanks for considering.

  .\\ac

 * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * Been there, done that, got the T-shirt.


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From: MAC BRYANT                             Number: 866
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/10/94  6:17a
Subj: Trashed Files                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  Does anyone know why this would occur randomly on about 2 files daily?

 ALL ]   Last File:0000FFFF.MO5   Blocks:00894 Errors:00000 Status: TCH

  I keep my satellite hard drive defragged. Besides it has some 550meg
  free. It seems a shame to have to go through another 6 hours of stuff
  to get that one file.

  A handle on this would be much appreciated. Thanks.

  .\\ac

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From: DON BOSMAN                             Number: 867
  To: JACK WILLIAMS                            Date: 05/06/94 10:50p
Subj: Link Test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > What this software does is this: With the 703=ON, the program
 > exits to PCSKY.BAT after the end of the final Fido mail file.
 > PCSKY.BAT calls EXTRACT.EXE.

 > EXTRACT.EXE checks your BBS to see what message echoes you have on
 > the board and extracts just those messages from all the mail
 > files. It discards all other messages in which you have no
 > interest. This process saves me many *hours* each day! After the
 > extraction, the tosser is called and traffic is tossed to your
 > board and downlinks.

 > I have not converted the extract program to shareware, but might
 > do that if a number of people need it.

Can your program work without BBS software.  I am using FrontDoor non-comercial
and FastEcho to handle mail which I currently pick up rom another site which
pays to refeed.  Things change, but I currently don't want to have BBS software
up.  (I prefer to understand my system, rather then just operate it)  It would
be great to not have to toss ALL the mail just to get the echo's I read.

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From: RANDY EDWARDS                          Number: 868
  To: RAY SNOW                                 Date: 05/12/94  6:05p
Subj: Re-zipping                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On May 10 02:44 94, Ray Snow of 1:105/285 wrote:

 RS> is my *first* and *foremost* concern. I delete most of the junk
 RS> files and my reasons for use of your PC services focuses around
 RS> the RIME mail in super-crucial mode.

   This is interesting.  I'll be curious to see how Boyd and the folks at PC
handle this.  For myself, and, logically, people who I do mail with, our first
and foremost concern is the FidoNet mail.  My system simply tosses the Rime
mail into the bit bucket.

   Boyd obviously has his hands full dealing with two groups who in many ways
have different priorities.  Sort of makes me glad I'm not in his shoes... :-)
.
Randy                                 BBS [phone] (V.FC)
FidoNet 1:325/806 1:325/805           InterNet [e-mail]

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From: PAUL BENDER                            Number: 869
  To: GEORGE VANDERVORT                        Date: 05/11/94 12:39p
Subj: Disk Space Needed?                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

George Vandervort wrote in a message to Paul Bender:

GV> I just took a look at the HD on the Computer connected to
GV> the Satellite Dish. not counting the Space for MSDOS 5.0, or
GV> any files in my TOOLS/UTILITY directory..

Thanks for the informative reply, George....it's appreciated

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From: BILL STARR                             Number: 870
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/12/94  9:13p
Subj: Help                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am wondering if anyone else is having the problems that I am.
I am using Gomail as my tosser to a Wildcat BBS.
I have the areas.bbs set up as follows:

351 GENEOLOGY       1:3615/50
P   AUTOMOTIVE      1:3615/50
352 ATARI_ST        1:3615/50

It seems that if I put a planet connect node number behind the echos
that are tossed, it builds packets to go back to them.
On the pass thrus it is OK.
If I leave the planet connect node number off, then whenever someone
leaves a message in that echo, the program would not know where to
return it, is that correct?

It would seem to me that the messages coming from Planet Connect have no
Seen-Bys in them so the program does not know not to return them to
Planet Connect.

Anyone who has worked with Go-Mail and Wildcat and Areas.bbs please give
me a hand.

Bill

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From: BOYD GOODIN                            Number: 871
  To: RAY SNOW                                 Date: 05/13/94  2:00a
Subj: Re: Re-zipping                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> 1. Has PC taken any steps to prevent any re-zipping/date alterations
> or other things which could alter the integrity of the RIME
> mail packets?

   Yep. I found the problem that caused those "3" bundles to be bad and have
rectified it.

> Suggestion: Transmit all mail net packets/files thru TWO full
> cycles. Then transmit the other "regular" files. Mail integrity
> is my *first* and *foremost* concern. I delete most of the junk
> files and my reasons for use of your PC services focuses around
> the RIME mail in super-crucial mode.

 Question. What makes RIME any more special than FIDO, or ROSENET, or UNINET,
or INTELECT? Your Admin wanted them to be added during the day. We did not (and
still dont) have the uplink program setup for adding files on the fly. We do
not uplink from here. We have to send everything via landline to the uplink. We
have no way of knowing how many megs we will be sending a day so it is hard to
tell you "Your files will be going over at 8 am and at 8 pm for any new files
sent in during the day." Files were added at 8 pm on the 11th and only went
over the sat at 1:30 am on the 12th. Did you get them? Not everyone (in rime)
that uses our system is receiving 24 hours a day. Has your admin taken this
into concideration? Has your admin told you all what we had to do to be allowed
to send RIME mail over the satellite? Has your admin told you how we bent over
backwards to make changes for them and then they go and make the files
available thru FTP on the internet? There goes your security. We are doing our
best here to make everything work for everybody. We have problems and we are
working on fixing them. By doing things to suite RIME we have to be very
carefully that we dont screw things up for everone else. I appreciate your
ideas and will follow up on them.


...Boyd

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From: CURTIS COLEY                           Number: 872
  To: MICKEY FERGUSON                          Date: 05/09/94  9:14p
Subj: Link test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MF>KF> FF> Picked up Novell DOS 7.0 a few weeks back, added some LAN cards and
MF>KF> FF> DESQview/X 2.0, and I am one very *HAPPY* camper!


MF>I don't think that Foxy has answered, but we were previously running
MF>regular  DV on the machine and whenever we tossed mail in the
MF>other window, we got  errors in the PC window. With DVX that
MF>doesn't happen.  Also, we toss the mail  on another machine &
MF>pulling a few meg of mail bundles while the mail is still
MF>coming in does _not_ cause errors in the current file.

CC>  Just out of curiousity, I was wondering if you could help me out
CC>  with a few questions.  I am getting ready to set up a BBS on a
CC>  Novell 3.12 Network, and am ordering PC next week.  Could you
CC>  please recommend any software, mailtosser, or whatever that would
CC>  ease my transition into this.  I am an absolute novice when it
CC>  comes to getting my mail in this manner. I will be running
CC>  10 nodes under DesqView and or OS/2.  Thanks in advance..

                                Curtis Coley
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From: BOB WATSON                             Number: 873
  To: JOHN PLEGGE                              Date: 05/11/94  8:50p
Subj: Microcom/spitfire/pc                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JP>   I'm running a single computer system here with the satellite data
JP>receiver, Spitfire v3.4, and a Microcom Deskporte FAST ES 28.8
JP>modem.  I haven't noticed any problems with other modems
JP>connecting to mine.
JP>   There are two other SF BBS's in my area running Microcom modems (one
JP>is the serial model, the other is parallel).  Neither of them
JP>have reported any compatibility problems.

By chance do you have the phone number for Microcom? I'm interested in getting
some of their modems. Thanks!


                                        Bob
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From: ART MACK                               Number: 874
  To: ELVIS HARGROVE                           Date: 05/12/94 11:19p
Subj: ILLEGAL?                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> *@ORIGIN :BOO!  Board Of Occult  McAllen Tx.
-> -> Since april 18th been getting an Ilegal connect message in the log
-> -> 201/01
->
-> Hey Art, maybe your node is where they put OUR password!
->
-> I think our mail is back ON again.


You mean you lost yours as well on April 18th??????


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From: LORI SMITH                             Number: 875
  To: JACK WILLIAMS                            Date: 05/04/94 11:27p
Subj: Re: Link Test                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JW*>Hi, Bill. I have written some software that extracts what your board needs
JW*>from the message packets. If you are interested, please let me know.

Hello Jack,

Caught your message here and I am interested in the software.
If ya would pass the info on, i'll be sure and FREQ it from
you.  Thanks alot ...
                                +Lori+

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From: LORI SMITH                             Number: 876
  To: DAVID LIERMAN                            Date: 05/05/94  6:35p
Subj: Wildcat And Pconn                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DL*>David Lierman 1:2255/90 PITA BBS
DL*> * Origin: PITA BBS  Anderson, IN  (1:231/550.0)  (1:2255/90)

Hello David :-)

Just wanted to let you know that it only took 3 days to get down
the road!<VBG>  I've seen several folks say it takes almost a
week for them to get someplace close... oh well...<G>

And since your here, might want to peek at your origin line...

                        +Lori+

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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 877
  To: DAVE PETRUCCI                            Date: 05/10/94  4:06p
Subj: Re: Is It Me????                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DP> Joe,
DP>       I haven't had any problems connecting with any of sort
DP>       of modem..... yet... 8-)
DP>       From what I've seen in the ZOOM echo and from my experiences,
DP>       the ZOOM 28.8k's connect just fine with other V.FC modems...
DP>       ie.. Hayes, Supra, Zoom, Boca, USR, Microcom...etc..
DP> Dave P.

Thanks Dave,
Sounds like I will be purchasing a few in the near future..

-Joe
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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 878
  To: OZZ NIXON                                Date: 05/11/94  4:04p
Subj: Re: Is It Me????                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ON>        There are 5 or 6 BBSes locally with Microcom, 2-3 with Hayes
ON> andI think one Zoomer ... all but the zoom enjoy it. There are a
ON> couple USR21600's in town also ... and everyone says they get good
ON> clean 21600connects too...

ON>        I think the local net went to using a VFC flag a couple weeks
ON> ago if you wanna netmail a couple for their opinions :)


Are you telling me that the sysop's with zoom's don't like them?
I was under the opinion that zooms where "loved by all" <g>..

-Joe
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From: JACK WILLIAMS                          Number: 879
  To: DON BOSMAN                               Date: 05/12/94 11:35a
Subj: Re: Link Test                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Jack Williams <05-06-94 22:50> Don Bosman wrote:

DB> Can your program work without BBS software.

Yes, all you would need to do is create an ASCII file which contains the names
of all the echoes you currently want to receive--one echo per line.

DB> It would be great
DB> to not have to toss ALL the mail just to get the echo's I read.

That's why I wrote it, Don, to get around tossing *all* that mail just to get
the ones I wanted.

Now, if we just could get someone to modify the satellite program to *stop* it
from writing to disk *all* of the stuff coming down from the bird...and *only*
write the things which one wants....  Have you noticed that *everything* is
written to disk; and then apparently deleted after being written if it is not
in your list for saving???  This works havoc on the disk drive mechanism--very
needlessly.  All they would have to do is just bypass the disk writing on all
that stuff that one hasn't requested for storing....  Have you noticed
this????

Regards, Jack

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From: JACK WILLIAMS                          Number: 880
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/12/94  9:17p
Subj: International Genealogy Association Network  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I extend a cordial invitation to all SYSOPs to take a look at the IGAMAIL.Z##
packet (in the \GALAXY subdirectory).... Therein you will find an information
packet on IGA_Net<tm>.

By carrying genealogy on your board, you are guaranteeing that you will
develop a core group of serious users. It would be hard to find as friendly a
group as a bunch of genealogy researchers.

Why not take a look at the info packet.... and, if you are interested,
complete the membership application and return it via direct netmail to
1:274/30. You will be issued an IGA_Net<tm> node number by return netmail and
should/could be operating within a day.

Come join with us....

Regards,
Jack Williams
Administrator
International Genealogy Association and
International Genealogy Association Network (IGA_Net<tm>)

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From: BILL WOLF                              Number: 881
  To: MIKE NYMAN                               Date: 05/12/94  8:51p
Subj: Tossers for .BAG's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MN> > I've been running GIGO under 6.2, 7.03 for quite sometime,
MN> > and haven't had any problems whatsoever with it.   I am now

MN>I didn't want to alarm you Bill . I am running Lantastics AI
MN>as well . I do not know if this is a part of the problem. The
MN>thing is any software that I run with DOS4GW must be run in a

Yeah, I don't know about running it under Lantastic.  I do know I've had good
success with running it under Netware Lite..  I'd play around with QEMM, and
make sure you enable EMS.  That's all the other help I can offer you.. Try
netmailing Jason about it.  He's as helpful as one can get!

TakeCare,
Bill

... To reform a man, begin with his grandmother.
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From: DANNY DANIEL                           Number: 882
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/12/94 10:14a
Subj: C-Band Receivers                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello all!

I have read in this echo of several having their ku band receivers fail. I know
one sysop who is on his third one. What I want to know is if the c-band
receivers are failing also.  If you are running a c-band let me know. Also has
anyone done any comparisons on pros or cons between using c or the ku.
I am waiting on a c-band to be delivered now but delivery has been pushed back
another week.  I hope to be on the bird next week.
                                    Thanks DD

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From: MIKE NYMAN                             Number: 883
  To: JASON BAGINSKI                           Date: 05/13/94  4:09p
Subj: Re: Tossers for .BAG's                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Jason
 >  MN>wile tossing mail crossposted his message to 27 different news
 > MN>groups. As most newsgroup names are about 10 letters long this name
 >
 > That'd be pushing my setup... :)  I guess I need to expand
 > a lot.
I saw another one last night that had 500 letters in the NEWGROUPS: line as
some one crossposted it to 32 areas.  >
 >  MN>So far I am just trying to run 20 areas and with the great volume
 > MN>out of the PCUSENET files it still takes about 2hours on a 386 25

 > Eeewwwwwhhhh!  For just 20 areas, you let it sit there for
 > 2 hours?  I hope they are good conferences.. :)   But,
 > Hudson import doesn't work?

that is nothing yesterday the mail run of PCUSENET files was 25 megs packed
allmost 700 bag files that need to be processed. I started processing it at 5pm
and it finished at 9pm ( Just to give you some Idea of the Volume that goes
through) for 20 areas or 200 areas you still have to through all 25megs of
mail.  > MN>So this has been the major problem I have been having with Hudson
 > MN>base configuration. keeping the Hudson base open for 2+ hours is
 > MN>not only dagerous but it also makes the message base unacesable to
 > MN>my bbs software one the other computer in the otherside of the
 >
 > Yuppen, that'd do it.. :)  I could set up a "slow mode" or
 > something, that'd open/close the files with each message if
 > you'd like.
 >
Ya for this much mail all I realy need is a program like XSH that just reads
the bag files and fires the titles that apear in a control file out into *.msg
format and then trash the rest . the only problem with *.msg is that I need to
set up a director for each area . as I have now taken things up to 40 areas
things have started to slow down though as each file needds to be writen to the
disk as it finds one.later

                            .....Mike Nyman

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From: ROY TIMBERMAN                          Number: 884
  To: JACK WILLIAMS                            Date: 05/13/94  4:30p
Subj: International Genealogy A               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JW>Why not take a look at the info packet.... and, if you are interested,
JW>complete the membership application and return it via direct netmail to
JW>1:274/30. You will be issued an IGA_Net<tm> node number by return netmail
JW>and should/could be operating within a day.

Do you do Fido style mail using FidoNet node numbers?  I don't do
other zones... it is a waste of time, unnecessary and has proven
to be undependable.  But would like to carry the echomail areas
using FidoNet technology.

Roy Timberman
1:280/1
NEC

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From: TIM FIERRO                             Number: 885
  To: RANDY EDWARDS                            Date: 05/13/94  1:56p
Subj: Re-zipping                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RE>  RS> is my *first* and *foremost* concern. I delete most of the junk
RE>  RS> files and my reasons for use of your PC services focuses around
RE>  RS> the RIME mail in super-crucial mode.
RE>
RE>    This is interesting.  I'll be curious to see how Boyd and the folks at
PC
RE> handle this.  For myself, and, logically, people who I do mail with, our
first
RE> and foremost concern is the FidoNet mail.  My system simply tosses the Rime
RE> mail into the bit bucket.

Let RIME fit in the picture, not all of us bend to let them have
their way.  There is plenty of room for them, but not at the
expense of delaying the rest of us.  Besides, I like you just use
the K:\NUL/ to send it right on it's way and never touch my
drive. :)



The Racer's Edge Network Delivery System * TRENDS! [phone]/939-7876

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From: TIM FIERRO                             Number: 886
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 05/13/94  6:38p
Subj: Re: Re-zipping                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BG> > Suggestion: Transmit all mail net packets/files thru TWO full
BG> > cycles. Then transmit the other "regular" files. Mail integrity
BG> > is my *first* and *foremost* concern. I delete most of the junk
BG> > files and my reasons for use of your PC services focuses around
BG> > the RIME mail in super-crucial mode.
BG>
BG>  Question. What makes RIME any more special than FIDO,
BG>  or ROSENET, or UNINET, or INTELECT? Your Admin wanted
BG>  them to be added during the day.

BG>  By doing things to suite RIME we have to be very
BG>  carefully that we dont screw things up for everone else.

Thank you for saying this!  It was long overdue.  Why break other
things just so that RIME can come on-line.  If the dish feed and
the admin rules needed to transport it is too much, have the
nodes pick it up via FTP.  Quicker and it leaves the mail not
being imported problem back onto the admin of that net, and not
on PC's shoulder as to why it didn't get sent out the minute they
got it. :)

Everything is working, fit RIME into the picture, don't fit the
rest of us to suit RIME.  No offense against RIME, but every net
has to cooperate in the moving of the mail via this medium and not
make accommodations for any one network.

Off of my soapbox and I will go into my little world now. <g>


The Racer's Edge Network Delivery System * TRENDS! [phone]/939-7876

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From: DEAN LAKE                              Number: 887
  To: BILL STARR                               Date: 05/14/94 12:04a
Subj: Help                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BS} I have the areas.bbs set up as follows:

BS} 351 GENEOLOGY       1:3615/50
BS} P   AUTOMOTIVE      1:3615/50
BS} 352 ATARI_ST        1:3615/50

The above should work fine.


BS} It seems that if I put a planet connect node number behind the echos
BS} that are tossed, it builds packets to go back to them.
BS} On the pass thrus it is OK.
BS} If I leave the planet connect node number off, then whenever someone
BS} leaves a message in that echo, the program would not know where to
BS} return it, is that correct?

In a sense, yes.  GoMail looks at any new messages and checks the
Seen-bys on each message.  If there is no 1:3615/50 in the
seen-by, and your areas.bbs is set up as above, GoMail will
export that message.  GoMail will create a packet for 1:3615/50
containing a copy of the new message.

BS} It would seem to me that the messages coming from Planet Connect have no
BS} Seen-Bys in them so the program does not know not to return them to
BS} Planet Connect.

That would cause the problem.  The messages come in here with the
1:3615/50 in the seen-bys.  Are you by chance stripping the
seenbys off when importing the messages?  You might try saving
the SEENBY lines in the BBS message.  That will allow you to
check if 1:3615/50 is in the seenby.  In GoEdit, under Mailer,
near the bottom, you can say Yes to "Save SEENBY lines in BBS".

I assume you have 1:3615/51 configured as an alias, too.

Hope this might help.

Dean

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From: FLOYD DRENNON                          Number: 888
  To: GUY VANDELL                              Date: 05/13/94 11:22a
Subj: Microcom/Spitfire/PC                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Guy,

11 May 94, 20:30, Guy VanDell wrote to John Plegge:

 GV> do you have the problem with your microcom deskporte fast ES getting stuck
 GV> onhook?

It's happened to me with at least three different brands using the unaltered
Rockwell chipset.  I've reported it to Zoom and Microcom and they are supposed
to be working with Rockwell on the problem.



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From: CHUCK WARREN                           Number: 889
  To: MIKE NYMAN                               Date: 05/13/94  4:47p
Subj: Tossers for .BAG's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MN->I didn't want to alarm you Bill . I am running Lantastics AI as well . I do
MN->know if this is a part of the problem. The thing is any software that I run
MN->with DOS4GW must be run in a clean computer. when running any of thease
MN->programs I must reboot or trying to run this program crashes my computer ev
MN->time . All I can think of is that I do not have Qemm  set up right to run t
MN->software or I am missing a flag for DOS4GW for prober operation. Ether way
MN->found the doc wanting when I went looking for an answer. So in conclusion I
MN->you got it running at all You far beond where I ever got with this software
MN->Enjoy the news groups. later

   I found that with DV, I had to setup my task like this:

   On the first page:

           Memory Size (in K): 290

   On the advanced settings:

           Maximum Program Memory Size (in K)..: 640

           Maximum Expanded Memory Size (in K):    0

   Runs just fine here in task 4.  When I tried giving it EMS, it
   wouldn't run!

   Chuck


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From: DAVID LIERMAN                          Number: 890
  To: LORI SMITH                               Date: 05/14/94  5:46a
Subj: Wildcat And Pconn                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Lori,
    It look's like the connection is very stable so far we have not run
iinto any big problems with this connection.  But it does take a lot of
time to keep it running soomth.
David


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From: JAMES JOHNSON                          Number: 891
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/15/94  1:38a
Subj: Pc & The Far East                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I heard a rumor that Planet Connect is working on getting connectivity with the
Far East.  I am the NEC for South Korea and the chance for getting relatively
cheap echos into country is something I cannot let slip by!
Has anyone heard this rumor and know if it has any basis in fact?
Thanks much in advance!

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From: BILL STARR                             Number: 892
  To: DEAN LAKE                                Date: 05/14/94  8:40a
Subj: Help                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> That would cause the problem.  The messages come in here with the
-> 1:3615/50 in the seen-bys.  Are you by chance stripping the
-> seenbys off when importing the messages?  You might try saving
-> the SEENBY lines in the BBS message.  That will allow you to
-> check if 1:3615/50 is in the seenby.  In GoEdit, under Mailer,
-> near the bottom, you can say Yes to "Save SEENBY lines in BBS".
->
-> I assume you have 1:3615/51 configured as an alias, too.
->
-> Hope this might help.
->
-> Dean
->
Dean,
I found out what the trouble was. Stupid me.

I had used the fidonet.na as a basis for my areas.bbs and left in the
explanations of each of the echos.

For example:

P   !CHINESE      1:3615/50    ; General topic chatting in Chinese
100 12_STEPS      1:3615/50    ; 12 Steps Discussion
P   4DOS          1:3615/50    ; 4DOS ECHO

Well it seems that GoMail does not like the explanation lines to be
there and creates return maill for 1:3615/50.

I have removed all of the explanations and it works fine now.

Thanks for the help. Now all I have to do is to set up all the programs
that came with Planet Connect and make .bat files to move things around.

Bill

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From: VIC PARRISH                            Number: 893
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 05/14/94  4:41p
Subj: Help                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Boyd!

Appreciate the prompt response to my questions.


Enjoy!
Vic
Voice [phone]

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From: VIC PARRISH                            Number: 894
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 05/14/94  4:58p
Subj: Thanks                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks for the prompt response and help to solve my problem.


Enjoy!

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From: LARRY JUKER                            Number: 895
  To: JOHN LYON                                Date: 04/21/94  7:49p
Subj: ibmNET                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JL>    Yes.  Check the filebone.na file, it shows which FDN's are on the
 JL> satelite.

Thanks, John.  How about echo areas?  I haven't seen any of them listed.  I
probably am looking in the wrong place.  It's either that or I never see what I
am looking at. :-(

Larry

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From: EDDIE MONEY                            Number: 896
  To: DANNY DANIEL                             Date: 05/14/94  4:39p
Subj: C-Band Receivers                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Danny!

Thursday May 12 1994 10:14, Danny Daniel wrote to all:

 DD> Hello all!

 DD> I have read in this echo of several having their ku band receivers fail. I
 DD> know one sysop who is on his third one. What I want to know is if the
 DD> c-band receivers are failing also.  If you are running a c-band let me
 DD> know. Also has anyone done any comparisons on pros or cons between using c
 DD> or the ku. I am waiting on a c-band to be delivered now but delivery has
 DD> been pushed back another week.  I hope to be on the bird next week.
 DD>                                     Thanks DD

Danny I use the c-band reciever here and so far have not had any problems with
the reciever. I use a 386dx40 just to get the fidonet mail and files. I hope
that you get the reciever in soon.
see ya
Eddie

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From: JOE LYDA                               Number: 897
  To: BILL STARR                               Date: 05/13/94  6:16p
Subj: Help                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Bill!

In a message to All <05/12/94> Bill Starr wrote:

BS> I am wondering if anyone else is having the problems that I am.
BS> I am using Gomail as my tosser to a Wildcat BBS.
BS> I have the areas.bbs set up as follows:

BS> 351 GENEOLOGY       1:3615/50
BS> P   AUTOMOTIVE      1:3615/50
BS> 352 ATARI_ST        1:3615/50

BS> It seems that if I put a planet connect node number behind the echos
BS> that are tossed, it builds packets to go back to them.
BS> On the pass thrus it is OK.
BS> If I leave the planet connect node number off, then whenever someone
BS> leaves a message in that echo, the program would not know where to
BS> return it, is that correct?

BS> It would seem to me that the messages coming from Planet Connect have no
BS> Seen-Bys in them so the program does not know not to return them to
BS> Planet Connect.

Bill there has to be in your gomail configuration a alias of
1:3615/51.  Mail is tossed from 1:3615/50 to 1:3615/51.  Everyone
connected to Planet Connect has to asume the alias of 1:3615/51.
The only problem I ever had with Gomail not working correctly was
when it tossed to another node using Gomail and I would get
everything back from that node as dups until I contacted Scott
Green and got that little buglet taken care of.  Might want to
look in your Gomail Doc file for his home phone number and
request that file from him which puts your real address in as a
seen-by so any downlinks will not retoss back to you if they are
using Gomail.  Also you will have to watch your Dupmsg.xxx files
and delete them ever so often or dump a bunch of mail.  I have a
little utility I wrote that dumps these files when they reach a
certain size and do some error traping with my batch file to
prevent any loss of mail should something go crazy and cause
Gomail to abort.
Here is a sample of my batch file to trap any aborted mail and
make sure it is not vaporized by Gomail when everything goes
wrong which it usually does every once in awhile.

:START
C:
CD\FD
ALOG

:START1
IF EXIST H:\FD\TOSS\0000FFFF.* GOTO DO_MAIL
CD\FD
ECHO OFF
CTTY CON
C:
CD C:\FD
FD /NOUNPACK

:DO_MAIL
:GET_MAIL
C:
CD\FD\GOMAIL
DUPCHECK
C:
ECHO ATH1M0 > COM2
CD\FD
IF EXIST K:\ACONFIG.BAT GOTO STARTK
NET MAP K: CDRIVE NODE3
:STARTK
:MAIL_MOVE
CD\MAILFILE
MAILMOVE
:MORE_MAIL
C:
CD\FD\GOMAIL
GOMAIL TOSS
CD\FD\FILE
IF EXIST 0000*.* MOVE 0000*.* C:\FD\BAD_ARC
IF EXIST *.PKT MOVE *.PKT C:\FD\BAD_ARC
CD\FD
IF EXIST H:\FD\TOSS\0000FFFF.* GOTO MAIL_MOVE
IF EXIST H:\FD\FILE\0000FFFF.* GOTO MORE_MAIL
C:
CD\FD\TOSS

Joe

PS give me a voice call if ya can't get it fixed and I can
talk you through the setup easily enough.

 * WCE 1.5/2107 * Human Error - It's all ***YOUR*** Fault.

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From: JESSE R. BLEHM                         Number: 898
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/13/94  9:52p
Subj: Price                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

What is the cheapest price i can get a FULL lowest priced Planet Connect
Systems for?

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From: LAZ GOTTLI                             Number: 899
  To: JACK WILLIAMS                            Date: 05/13/94  4:39p
Subj: International Genealogy Association Network  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Why not take a look at the info packet.... and, if you are interested,
 > complete the membership application and return it via direct netmail to
 > 1:274/30. You will be issued an IGA_Net<tm> node number by return
 > netmail and should/could be operating within a day.


Is there a cost associted with this net still or have you removed the $25 cost
per year?

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From: DON BOSMAN                             Number: 900
  To: JACK WILLIAMS                            Date: 05/14/94 12:52a
Subj: Your program                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > DB> Can your program work without BBS software.
 > Yes, all you would need to do is create an ASCII file which
 > contains the names of all the echoes you currently want to
 > receive--one echo per line.

Terrific!
I look forward to your announcement of availablity.

 > Now, if we just could get someone to modify the satellite program
 > to *stop* it from writing to disk *all* of the stuff coming down
 > from the bird...and *only* write the things which one wants....
 > Have you noticed that *everything* is written to disk; and then
 > apparently deleted after being written if it is not in your list
 > for saving???

Yes, it is simpler for the software to handle it by deletion, but it does muck
around with the drive.  I wonder if the software could be modified so we could
set up a RAM drive as a buffer (two to four meg) and delete the files after
receipt, but before a disk write?
Trying to do it before receipt would slow things down, but a buffer could
function faster than the modem transfer rate, I think.

It would require retiring some 286's but less drive wear and tear would
probably pay for the upgrade in the long run.  I believe for many of us, RAM, a
network card, and the hard drive are to only "real" expenses on our receiving
machines.

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From: JEFF WARD                              Number: 901
  To: DANNY DANIEL                             Date: 05/14/94 10:59a
Subj: C-Band Receivers                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I have read in this echo of several having their ku band
 > receivers fail. I know one sysop who is on his third one. What
 > I want to know is if the c-band receivers are failing also.  If
 > you are running a c-band let me know. Also has anyone done any
 > comparisons on pros or cons between using c or the ku.

 Well, I've been on the C-Band system since day one and have had the same
receiver since then also. No problems here. As far as pros and cons, that would
be difficult for me to make a proper judgement even though I have been in the
satellite business for over 10 years. The mail and files coming in is the same
and as long as you receive them, it would make no difference. The major
difference will be in outside hardware, mainly a C-Band dish versus a Ku dish.
That would be personal preference. Later!

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From: BOBBY TROTMAN                          Number: 902
  To: NATE CHASE                               Date: 05/15/94 11:08p
Subj: Lightning arrestor                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Nate!

01 May 94 13:06, Nate Chase wrote to All:

 NC>        In a Message to STEVE ADAIR
 NC>        on 04-28-94 (18:00) in Conference (458) PlanetConn
 NC>        regarding SAT COMPUTER SHOW

 NC>        JIM DUNMYER wrote...

 JD>> The coax cable can act as an antenna and pick up a pretty
 JD>> good voltage spike, even if the lightning hits only "close
 JD>> by". This spike can fry your receiver or LNB, or perhaps
 JD>> other connected equipment. They suggest that you install a
 JD>> lightning arrestor device in the coax; it can be bought from
 JD>> the Planet Connect folks or probably any local satellite
 JD>> dealer.


 NC> Boyd (et all),
 NC>         Whats the price of your Arrestor and is it guarenteed?


What you can do is loop the coax about 5 times at each end, make loops about 8
inches round. To over simplify what this does is to say Lightning can not go in
circles.

Best wishes,
Bobby

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From: SID BALCOM                             Number: 903
  To: TIM FIERRO                               Date: 05/14/94  8:20p
Subj: Re-zipping                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <May 13 13:56>, Tim Fierro (1:138/[e-mail]) writes:
RE>  RS> is my *first* and *foremost* concern. I delete most of the junk
RE>  RS> files and my reasons for use of your PC services focuses around
RE>  RS> the RIME mail in super-crucial mode.
RE>
RE>    This is interesting.  I'll be curious to see how Boyd and the folks at
PC
RE> handle this.  For myself, and, logically, people who I do mail with, our
first
RE> and foremost concern is the FidoNet mail.  My system simply tosses the Rime
RE> mail into the bit bucket.

 TF>>Let RIME fit in the picture, not all of us bend to let them have
 TF>>their way.  There is plenty of room for them, but not at the
 TF>>expense of delaying the rest of us.  Besides, I like you just use
 TF>>the K:\NUL/ to send it right on it's way and never touch my
 TF>>drive. :)

        I don't see how they can get accurate mail delivery with updated
packets during the day. I'm seeing too many variables that keep delivery from
being reliable. For some reason, the satellite computer went to gibberish this
morning and I lost all of the mail files on the first pass. Second pass brought
in all but 4, and I figure to get them on the 3rd pass.
        Point is, if new mail were inserted for the second pass, and a bird
flew by; or there was a rainstorm; or someone walked in front of the dish; or
there was a power outage; or.. well, you get the point - wouldn't all of those
updates be lost?
        From what I've seen, so far, I believe that we need 3 full passes.

++ Sid ++





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From: SID BALCOM                             Number: 904
  To: DANNY DANIEL                             Date: 05/14/94  9:04p
Subj: C-Band Receivers                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <May 12 10:14>, Danny Daniel (1:19/166) writes:
 DD>>I have read in this echo of several having their ku band receivers fail.
 DD>>I know one sysop who is on his third one. What I want to know is if the
 DD>>c-band receivers are failing also.  If you are running a c-band let me
 DD>>know. Also has anyone done any comparisons on pros or cons between using
 DD>>c or the ku.
 DD>>I am waiting on a c-band to be delivered now but delivery has been
 DD>>pushed back another week.  I hope to be on the bird next week.
 DD>>                                    Thanks DD

        The wait is VERY frustrating! I know!

        I'm suspecting that the receivers are the same for both C-Band and
Ku-Band. But, what I know about satellite stuff could be put in a thimble.

        My Ku-band set-up has been running since April 19th. The only problem
was operator head-space.

        I urge EVERYone to write down the switch settings on the bottom of the
receiver. I carried mine out to the dish and bumped several of the switches,
and of course couldn't receive anything until Boyd straightened me out.
        Write down those settings that are working for you!

++ Sid ++




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From: MICKEY FERGUSON                        Number: 905
  To: CURTIS COLEY                             Date: 05/15/94  2:52a
Subj: Link test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CC>  Just out of curiousity, I was wondering if you could help me out
CC>  with a few questions.  I am getting ready to set up a BBS on a
CC>  Novell 3.12 Network, and am ordering PC next week.  Could you
CC>  please recommend any software, mailtosser, or whatever that would
CC>  ease my transition into this.  I am an absolute novice when it
CC>  comes to getting my mail in this manner. I will be running
CC>  10 nodes under DesqView and or OS/2.  Thanks in advance..

Well, I was already running FrontDoor & GEcho.  Neither complained when we
went to Novell.  If I tell you any more, I'll have to make it up as I go. ;)
Because I'm certainly no expert.

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From: JACK WILLIAMS                          Number: 906
  To: LORI SMITH                               Date: 05/13/94 12:42p
Subj: Re: Link Test                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Jack Williams <05-04-94 23:27> Lori Smith wrote:

LS> Caught your message here and I am interested in the software.
LS> If ya would pass the info on, i'll be sure and FREQ it from
LS> you.  Thanks alot ...

Hello, Lori..... The software I have written was not written as shareware, so
I will have to convert it, if enough people want to use it. Right now, it is
working flawlessly and saving me much time and headache.

I will keep you apprised of happenings regarding it.

Regards, Jack

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From: JACK WILLIAMS                          Number: 907
  To: ROY TIMBERMAN                            Date: 05/14/94  7:41p
Subj: Re: International Genealogy A           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Jack Williams <05-13-94 16:30> Roy Timberman wrote:

RT> But would like to carry the echomail areas
RT> using FidoNet technology.

Hello, Roy. We are completely Fido-compatible.... of course, since we are a
genealogy-only network, we can't use Fido numbers in transfering our
IGA_Net<tm> mail.... we do, HOWEVER, use Fido numbers to transfer
non-net-specific echoes (e.g., AUG-GEN, GENEALOGY.GER, ITALIANO.GEN, I&UK,
etc., etc.)  In IGA_Net<tm> we have just over a dozen echomail conferences
which mail transfers via our registered 440: zone number.

Happy to have you participate with us.....

Regards, Jack

--- GEcho 1.02+
 * Origin: Jack's Emporium       Genealogy!     [phone] (1:274/30)
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From: MICHAEL ANDREWS                        Number: 908
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/15/94  3:35p
Subj: OS/2 and Lans                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm looking for a Lan setup to run under OS/2 and a straight dos
session on a seperate machine.  Without spending megabucks, any
suggestions?

... Line noise provided by New York Telephone!
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From: BOYD GOODIN                            Number: 909
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/15/94  9:43p
Subj: INBOUND BAD ECHOMAIL AREAS              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Areafix v1.30, (C) 1988-92 by Greg Dawson & George Peace (1:270/101)
  Originally Written by Greg Dawson.

Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Netmail'...
Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Badecho'...
Reading 'C:\Rbbs\Areas.Bbs'...

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Processing new EchoMail area ...
Creating new area 'GENEALOGY.CDN' from 1:396/1
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From: ED BOSTON                              Number: 910
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 05/15/94 11:26a
Subj: ILink                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Boyd.  What is the status of ILink?  I have been seeing the packets
showing up in the transmission, but I haven't heard anything about it
being available yet.
---
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From: RANDY RILEY                            Number: 911
  To: DANNY DANIEL                             Date: 05/15/94  8:04a
Subj: C-Band Receivers                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Danny Daniel wrote in a message to all:

DD> I have read in this echo of several having their ku band
DD> receivers fail. I know one sysop who is on his third one.
DD> What I want to know is if the c-band receivers are failing
DD> also.  If you are running a c-band let me know. Also has
DD> anyone done any comparisons on pros or cons between using c
DD> or the ku. I am waiting on a c-band to be delivered now but

I was running a C-Band off my home satellite system until about two weeks ago.
The receiver just quit qorking one morning.  PC said it was a receiver problem
that was common to both kU and C Band.  I decided to swap out the C Band
running off the house sat dish for a totally separate kU setup.  In my opinion,
the C Band performed a lot better with very few errors, even during rain
storms. The most likely cause for the difference in my case is the fact that I
got the 2' kU dish....maybe a 3' would have performed as well as C Band?


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From: STEVE OLIVER                           Number: 912
  To: MIKE NYMAN                               Date: 05/08/94 10:46a
Subj: Re: Tossers for .BAG's\Gigo             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


Mike, the best BAG program out there is Jasons GIGO.  You can pick it up from
Planet Connects BBS.  We just registered it for use here.  IT works great and
fast.  It converts them to Fido style and then I use Fastecho (also registered
recently) to toss them.

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From: RANDY EDWARDS                          Number: 913
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 05/15/94  8:59p
Subj: Re: Is It Me????                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

On May 11 16:04 94, Joe Hayes of 1:2290/70 wrote:

 JH> Are you telling me that the sysop's with zoom's don't like them?
 JH> I was under the opinion that zooms where "loved by all" <g>..

   Of course not.  I own one and I know they're not loved by all.  But then
again, I don't know of any modem that is...
.
Randy                                 BBS [phone] (V.FC)
FidoNet 1:325/806 1:325/805           InterNet [e-mail]

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From: RANDY EDWARDS                          Number: 914
  To: JACK WILLIAMS                            Date: 05/15/94  9:01p
Subj: International Genealogy Association Network  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On May 12 21:17 94, Jack Williams of 1:274/30 wrote:

 JW> I extend a cordial invitation to all SYSOPs to take a look at the
 JW> IGAMAIL.Z## packet (in the \GALAXY subdirectory).... Therein you will
 JW> find an information packet on IGA_Net<tm>.

   Thanks Jack.  I looked at that file when I first linked into Planet Connect
and was interested in the other nets that PC carried.  In particular I was
interested in the genealogy net because my wife has some Mormons in her family
and knew they'd find some of the info/conversations interesting.

   Just to let you know what my reactions were, I was surprised to find that
there was a fee to be in the network.  That struck me as very odd and I dropped
the idea of joining like a cold fish.
.
Randy                                 BBS [phone] (V.FC)
FidoNet 1:325/806 1:325/805           InterNet [e-mail]

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From: BOYD GOODIN                            Number: 915
  To: ED BOSTON                                Date: 05/16/94 12:08a
Subj: Re: ILink                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Hi Boyd.  What is the status of ILink?  I have been seeing the packets
> showing up in the transmission, but I haven't heard anything about it
> being available yet.

    You will have to get in contact with the Ilink admin on this.


...Boyd

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From: FLOYD DRENNON                          Number: 916
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 05/15/94  8:08p
Subj: PCSTATS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Boyd,

There's been nothing in the PCStats area since last Wednesday.


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From: WALLACE SHELDON                        Number: 917
  To: KEN SHORT                                Date: 05/15/94 11:13p
Subj: Need idea's                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 KS> testing...ARRRGGHHH... Oh well...Now i
 KS> need some idea's on what i should do to hook a dos box to my OS/2 bbs
 KS> machine...IE  what is a good package to hook the 2
 KS> machines...A way of telling

Ken,  The best way is to use IBM Lan Server on your BBS machine and IBM DOS Lan
requester on the Planet Connect machine with it pointed to the harddisk on the
BBS machine.  Everything that comes in from PlanetC simply goes to the harddisk
on the BBS machine.  The server software takes very little CPU time and is just
another running process with most of the software already built in to OS/2.  It
wouldn't take anymore processing power than a Telecom program running all the
time through a null modem (probably less).  With this setup you virtualy never
have to exit from the PTCCMAIN running on the PlanetC DOS machine to process
your mail, and can process the mail as soon as it comes in without waiting for
the Filebone and other stuff to finish.  The DOS machine would need only a very
small harddisk and enough heft to run PlanetC and the IBM Lan requestor (10 meg
harddisk or less, 386/16 and 2-4 meg of RAM with a good 16550 serial card).
You might not even need a harddisk.  If you decide to go this way, buy only the
Basic IBM Lan Server package (not the advanced) as it has everything you need
including DOS Lan Requester.

The cheapest way is what the other guy already told you about only if you
already have another box with a good size harddisk.  i.e. Using a telecom
program on both machines and a null modem, but you'll need a lot more harddisk
space.  So, if you don't already have the harddisk, then it's just as
inexpensive to go with the Lan setup as it is to buy a good size harddisk.
And, a LOT better setup, and tossing the mail several hours earlier.

        Works for me,
          Wally

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From: JOHN HERRBACH                          Number: 918
  To: MIKE NYMAN                               Date: 05/15/94 12:21p
Subj: Re: Tossers for .BAG's                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Mike,

On May. 13, 1994 at 16:09 , Mike Nyman of 1:140/120.1 wrote:

 MN> Ya for this much mail all I realy need is a program like XSH
 MN> that just reads the bag files and fires the titles that apear in
 MN> a control file out into *.msg format and then trash the rest .

Fred will toss them to *.PKT, and will also ignore conferences that are not
listed, creating smaller packets also.

John {|-)
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From: ART MACK                               Number: 919
  To: MAC BRYANT                               Date: 05/15/94  7:37p
Subj: U'NI Net                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Mac!

In a message to Boyd Goodin <05/10/94> Mac Bryant wrote:

MB>   Hello, Boyd!

MB>   Have you given any thought to my suggestion of updating LEDGE.QWK so
MB>   it's not almost 2 days old when we get it via the satellite?

Yes here here........good point......

 * WCE 1.5/2087 * NFE Multiline 25 Gigs  nfe.com  1:201/70  317-447-9653


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From: ART MACK                               Number: 920
  To: RANDY EDWARDS                            Date: 05/15/94  7:41p
Subj: Re-zipping                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Randy!

In a message to Ray Snow <05/12/94> Randy Edwards wrote:

RE> On May 10 02:44 94, Ray Snow of 1:105/285 wrote:

RE>  RS> is my *first* and *foremost* concern. I delete most of the junk
RE>  RS> files and my reasons for use of your PC services focuses around
RE>  RS> the RIME mail in super-crucial mode.

RE>    This is interesting.  I'll be curious to see how Boyd and the folks at
RE> handle this.  For myself, and, logically, people who I do mail with, our
RE> and foremost concern is the FidoNet mail.  My system simply tosses the Ri
RE> mail into the bit bucket.


Mine to, isn't Rime what you get with a sharp frost?


NFE BBS   nfe.com   1:201/70   317-447-9653

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From: CHUCK GUSTAFSON                        Number: 921
  To: DON BOSMAN                               Date: 05/15/94 11:51a
Subj: Re: Your program                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


On Sat 14-May-1994 00:52 thus spake Don Bosman unto Jack Williams:


 >> Now, if we just could get someone to modify the satellite program
 >> to *stop* it from writing to disk *all* of the stuff coming down

 DB> Yes, it is simpler for the software to handle it by deletion, but it does
 DB> muck around with the drive.  I wonder if the software could be modified so
 DB> we could set up a RAM drive as a buffer (two to four meg) and delete the

I wonder what would happen if you set up a disk write cache (like Hyperdisk) of
about 2 Meg and set up for delayed writes.  That might prove interesting.

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From: BILL CLARK                             Number: 922
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/15/94  8:17p
Subj: KU Band Data Receiver Deficiencies      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 * Original To  : All, in PCSITES
 * Original From: Bill Clark, 1:100/602.1
 * Original Date: May 15 19:35

I've read with interest the comments regarding problems/failures of the KU Band
data receiver and can concur with problems related to heat buildup in the
receiver without use of a cooling fan, inexplicable errors in receiving files
when weather is not possibly a factor (and no apparent reason to have block
errors during receipt, i.e., no bird on LNB, no airplane in the path between
the receiver and satellite), etc.

However, I am more disturbed by design deficiencies in the Automatic Gain
Circuitry of the KU Band data receiver.  Here, if signal gets reduced by
weather to the point where the receiver alarms, if there is a lightning strike
within two to three miles of the data receiver/dish, or something else blocks
receipt of the signal from the satellite and the receiver alarms, when the
signal is restored, the AGC circuit in the receiver begins to oscillate.  The
signal strength meter dips to zero and then quickly rises far upscale, only to
drop back to zero, then quickly rise, ad infinitum.  When the AGC circuit is
oscillating, no data gets received, or what data does get received is trashed
blocks.  The only way to stop oscillation of the AGC circuit with the receiver
here is to reduce the "meter sensitivity" control all the way to zero and then
slowly turn the control clockwise until the meter is in the range for normal
reception.  Note that this AGC oscillation can also be triggered here by a
complete power loss, or by unplugging the data receiver power supply, waiting
until the capacitors in the power supply drain off, and then plugging the power
supply back in.  I've not mentioned the loss of AC power earlier, since my
Planet Connect receiver and computer are run off an uninterruptible power
supply capable of totally powering the system for up to one hour or longer with
total loss of AC power.

I called Planet Systems the first week of May about the AGC circuit oscillation
problem in the data receiver and talked to a gentleman in Tech Support named
Bruce.  I was very concerned as during two days of heavy rain in the St Louis
area, the receiver went into oscillation five times.  Had I not been present in
the area of the receiver and able to "fix" the problem, no data would have been
received on those days.  Also, a few days after the heavy rainstorms, and with
me no more than five feet away from the receiver and within view of the
satellite dish 35 feet away, the receiver suddenly alarmed and went into the
AGC circuit oscillation condition.  Weather conditions at that time were clear,
and a quick check of the dish and the sky between the receiver and the
satellite revealed no reason why the receiver should have alarmed.  Bruce told
me the KU band receivers (the IDC receiver) suffer from this defect and the
only cure for the problem was what I had already discovered - turning the
"meter sensitivity" control all the way down and slowly turning the gain back
up.  I told Bruce that the design deficiency in the receiver did not bode well
for systems which must be left unattended for any length of time, since the AGC
circuit oscillation will not stop of its own accord.  I myself, am off on
vacation in the mid-July timeframe, and unattended operation during that period
will be in effect.  I asked Bruce about a swapout of the receiver I have, and
he indicated a swapout would do no good, as the replacement would likely have
the same identical problem.

I've not seen this AGC circuit oscillation problem with the KU band data
receiver mentioned in PCSITES or PLANET_CONNECT, so am interested in whether
the receiver I have is defective and Bruce was "blowing smoke", or if this is a
common problem.  If the problem is common, then the IDC KU band data receivers
suffer from serious design shortcomings, as no quality receiver of any type on
loss of signal or power, should go into AGC circuit oscillation when signal or
power is restored.  Can you imagine how many satellite TV receivers would be
sold if they had AGC circuit oscillation problems, or TV receivers, or FM
radios, or cellular phones, or, or....?

:-)  Bill

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From: AL HEDSTROM                            Number: 923
  To: MARK ADKINS                              Date: 05/13/94 10:14a
Subj: Pc & desqview                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> this. I've run four nodes on one machine with Desqview but never 6. I was
-> told by a few that it won't work, DOS can't seem to handle more than four
-> comm sessions at one time.

I ran a six-line PCBoard setup w/ DV/X under DR-DOS v.6 on a single 486-33 for
about six months.  Liked the control of DV/X, especially monitoring all nodes
at once without touching the keyboard or mouse!  Just carefully map out your
IRQ's and addresses.

Al Hedstrom
===
 * TSCNET * Silverdale/Seattle [phone] v32bis * 22 Nodes
 * PostLink(tm) v1.20 TSCNET (#1607) : RelayNet(tm)

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From: IRVE TOWERS                            Number: 924
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/13/94  2:57p
Subj: Now echoing                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The Hub bbs in Arlington, Va. is please to be echoing this conference.

                                                                Irve
===
 * The Hub bbs  Arlington, Va. [phone]
 * PostLink(tm) v1.20 THEHUB (#319) : RelayNet(tm)

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From: EARL ALBIN                             Number: 925
  To: MAC BRYANT                               Date: 05/13/94  9:34a
Subj: Trashed files                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MB> Does anyone know why this would occur randomly on about 2 files daily?
MB> ALL ]   Last File:0000FFFF.MO5   Blocks:00894 Errors:00000 Status: TCH
MB> I keep my satellite hard drive defragged. Besides it has some 550meg free.
MB> It seems a shame to have to go through another 6 hours of stuff to get that
MB> one file.
MB> A handle on this would be much appreciated. Thanks.
MB> .\\ac

Mac,
        I can't say how much of the FIDO mail gets the TCH, but a few minutes
before Noon today (Friday 13th), while waiting for the RIME messages to began,
I saw a 0000FFFF.FR? file get trashed.  Not sure of the ? number, but it was
next to the last one sent as I recall.  The RIME then began with our six
packets, and one of them got trashed!  This has been an ongoing problem, and I
have come to expect it.  I ring up our Nethub and download the trashed packet
over AT&T (prime time!)

BTW, real pretty weather...no storms or the like...calm air, and signal on the
receiver meter is a solid 8  (3/4 scale).  We in RIME have been led to believe
that we are the only net having this type of problems.  Have the 3' Ku system.

Earl
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 * Valley PC Board - Valley Station, KY [phone]
 * PostLink(tm) v1.20 VALLEYPC (#1066) : RelayNet(tm)

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From: MARK ADKINS                            Number: 926
  To: AL HEDSTROM                              Date: 05/15/94  8:56a
Subj: Pc & desqview                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I ran a six-line PCBoard setup w/ DV/X under DR-DOS v.6 on a single
-> 486-33 for about six months.  Liked the control of DV/X, especially
-> monitoring all nodes at once without touching the keyboard or mouse!
-> Just carefully map out your IRQ's and addresses.

Thanks for the info Al. How was your speed under this setup?

This is going to be for a very simple setup, no file transfers other than a
4000 - 12000 byte dBase III file and only one door on line with two message
bases. There will be four people on line at a time, maybe 6 every once in a
blue moon.

Mark

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From: JON ANDERSON                           Number: 927
  To: MIKE LESTER                              Date: 05/14/94  8:47a
Subj: Lightning arrestor                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ML>
ML>   about the Granite Boulder, i bet it would still be a boulder, even
ML>   after it took a "hit" and still function as a bolder. b=>}


maybe not ... maybe it would become multiple granite boulders ...g...


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 * MR/2 2.0 NR * Boston Gas BBS * 413-539-9834 * Fido 1:321/325 * Rime: 154
===
 * Boston Gas * 413-539-9834 * FidoNet:1:321/325 * Med/Sci/Engnr
 * PostLink(tm) v1.20 GAS (#154) : RelayNet(tm)

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From: OZZ NIXON                              Number: 928
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 05/15/94  8:19p
Subj: Re: Is It Me????                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No


In a message to Ozz Nixon <05-11-94 16:04> Joe Hayes wrote:

JH>
JH> Are you telling me that the sysop's with zoom's don't like them?
JH> I was under the opinion that zooms where "loved by all" <g>..
JH>

        You are joking right?

Ozz
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From: DARYL TURNER                           Number: 929
  To: ANYONE                                   Date: 05/15/94 10:12p
Subj: Anyone receiving files in MSDN file areas?  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Since I'm being asked about it locally, I figure I had better ask the
'higher-ups' about this.

When we initially set up our Planet Connect system here, we were
receiving in MSDN (Macintosh Software Distribution Network), but for
the past few months we haven't seen anything.  Is there a problem here
that we just aren't getting them, or is it higher up?

   Daryl
   Files guy around here.


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From: JIM TAYLOR                             Number: 930
  To: CHUCK WARREN                             Date: 05/15/94 10:13p
Subj: Is it me????                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CW>JL->   I have the same thing happen EVERYTIME I do a F'req. I've tried
CW>JL->   with my 16.8 USR Duals and Zyxels....same thing! I've told Boyd about
CW>JL->   this twice now, no ideas.

CW>     Thanks John.  Seems some of us have problems, some don't.

Can you tell me where I can FREQ the file to change the TVAGENT channels
to our local Cable system???


 * JTEDIT 1.0 * On a clear disk you can seek forever


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From: MIKE NYMAN                             Number: 931
  To: CHUCK WARREN                             Date: 05/15/94 12:35p
Subj: Tossers for .BAG's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >    I found that with DV, I had to setup my task like this:
 >    On the first page:
 >            Memory Size (in K): 290
 >    On the advanced settings:
 >            Maximum Program Memory Size (in K)..: 640
 >            Maximum Expanded Memory Size (in K):    0
 >    Runs just fine here in task 4.  When I tried giving it
 > EMS, it
 >    wouldn't run!
 >    Chuck
Hi Chuck . I am real confused now. I do not run DV and never looked ar it. Even
at 100% of the computers resorces I can not get this thing to run.

                                       .....Mike Nyman

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From: JOHN MORANO                            Number: 932
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/16/94  6:22a
Subj: pcfu                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

05-07-94   PCFU199J     Fixed a bug in detecting DOS 6.21
                        (Thanks John Woodstock)

05-15-94   PCFU200B     Eliminated DOS version detection errors, this version
                        should run under any version of DOS. Sorry to admit
                        it but this little jewel cost a 2% speed decrease in
                        process time.

                        Fixed the bug that caused the program to crash if the
                        number of files being proccesed was very large. I had
                        a few reports on this one. The problem was being
                        caused by an array overflow, and the fix is just a
                        patch, If you process more then 500 files at a time
                        I won't be able to sort them in time and date order.
                        I will be working on a real fix for this one.

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From: DAVID MUENCH                           Number: 933
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/13/94 10:00p
Subj: ILink                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


What's the status on getting ILink up and working on PC?

David

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From: ALEX STUART                            Number: 934
  To: BILL WOLF                                Date: 05/13/94  1:24p
Subj: Tossers for .BAG's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I've been running GIGO under 6.2, 7.03 for quite sometime,
 > and haven't had any problems whatsoever with it.   I am now

MN>I didn't want to alarm you Bill . I am running Lantastics AI
MN>as well . I do not know if this is a part of the problem. The
MN>thing is any software that I run with DOS4GW must be run in a

BW> Yeah, I don't know about running it under Lantastic.  I do
BW> know I've had good success with running it under Netware
BW> Lite..  I'd play around with QEMM, and make sure you enable EMS.
BW> That's all the other help I can offer you.. Try
BW> netmailing Jason about it.  He's as helpful as one can get!

        FWIW, I'm running GIGO under LANtastic without any problems at all.
Works well, does what it should, all's right with the world.

        -- Alex

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From: BOYD GOODIN                            Number: 935
  To: FLOYD DRENNON                            Date: 05/16/94  8:05p
Subj: Re: PCSTATS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> There's been nothing in the PCStats area since last Wednesday.

   Working on it. Is it ok today?


...Boyd

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From: BOYD GOODIN                            Number: 936
  To: ART MACK                                 Date: 05/16/94  8:09p
Subj: Re: U'NI Net                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> MB>   it's not almost 2 days old when we get it via the satellite?

> Yes here here........good point......

   Well first off I get them each morning around 1:15 am. This is a once a day
feed and you will have to get them to update their mail just before the call.

...Boyd

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From: ANTHONY GRILLO                         Number: 937
  To: ROY TIMBERMAN                            Date: 05/15/94  3:43p
Subj: Re: International Genealogy A           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hiya,

JW>>1:274/30. You will be issued an IGA_Net<tm> node number by return
 RT> netmail
JW>>and should/could be operating within a day.

 RT> Do you do Fido style mail using FidoNet node numbers?  I don't
 RT> do other zones... it is a waste of time, unnecessary and has
 RT> proven to be undependable.  But would like to carry the
 RT> echomail areas using FidoNet technology.

I agree, I would also carry it if it used Fido numbers.

Anthony Grillo
NET 272 NEC

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From: BOYD GOODIN                            Number: 938
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/16/94 11:38p
Subj: INBOUND BAD ECHOMAIL AREAS              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Areafix v1.30, (C) 1988-92 by Greg Dawson & George Peace (1:270/101)
  Originally Written by Greg Dawson.

Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Netmail'...
Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Badecho'...
Reading 'C:\Rbbs\Areas.Bbs'...

 Address 157/200 not authorized to create area 'HUB157'
 Address 3663/102 not authorized to create area 'R18FILE'
 Address 109/1 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE'
 Address 109/1 not authorized to create area 'REGION13'
 Address 303/15 not authorized to create area 'NIGHT_SHIFT_CP'
 Address 351/444 not authorized to create area 'LOC.BUYSELL'
 Address 351/444 not authorized to create area 'SPORT-FISHING.WEST'
 Address 351/444 not authorized to create area 'LOC.BUYSELL'
 Address 351/444 not authorized to create area 'SPORT-FISHING.WEST'
 Address 351/444 not authorized to create area 'LOC.BUYSELL'
 Address 147/20 not authorized to create area 'METRO_BUYER'
 Address 303/15 not authorized to create area 'NIGHT_SHIFT_CP'
 Address 109/1 not authorized to create area 'NCRC13'
 Address 109/1 not authorized to create area 'REGION13'
 Address 121/38 not authorized to create area 'CHAT121'
 Address 104/1 not authorized to create area 'EF_HUB'
 Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'COLLECTABLES'
 Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'TFDN'
 Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'COLLECTABLES'
 Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'HORROR'
 Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'COLLECTABLES'
 Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'TRADEWARS'
 Address 348/501 not authorized to create area 'BBSNEWS'
 Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'VIRGINIA_BBS'
 Address 2621/15 not authorized to create area 'SCI.MED.AIDS'
 Address 2621/15 not authorized to create area 'BIONET.MOLBIO.HIV'
 Address 2621/15 not authorized to create area 'SCI.MED.AIDS'
 Address 2621/15 not authorized to create area 'BIONET.MOLBIO.HIV'
 Address 2621/15 not authorized to create area 'SCI.MED.AIDS'
 Address 2621/15 not authorized to create area 'BIONET.MOLBIO.HIV'
 Address 2621/15 not authorized to create area 'SCI.MED.AIDS'
 Address 270/611 not authorized to create area 'STORY_CHAT'
 Address 2230/100 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES'
 Address 2609/3 not authorized to create area 'REGION150'
 Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'R19COORD'
 Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'R19_CHAT'
 Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'R19COORD'
 Address 247/800 not authorized to create area 'RFP'
 Address 300/15 not authorized to create area 'MCAFEE'
 Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'A_MODERATOR'
 Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'A_CELEBNUDE'
 Address 271/320 not authorized to create area 'PLANET'
 Address 100/9999 not authorized to create area 'HN-OVR50'
 Address 0/0 not authorized to create area 'PGRMR'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NESYSOP'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'FORSALE'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NESYSOP'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'FORSALE'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NEAMY_SALE'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NESYSOP'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'FORSALE'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NESYSOP'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NET324'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NESYSOP'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NET324'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'FORSALE'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NESYSOP'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NET324'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'FORSALE'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NET324'
 Address 268/10 not authorized to create area 'MORESOME'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NET324'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NESYSOP'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NET324'
 Address 138/103 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE'
 Address 264/100 not authorized to create area 'FILE_LISTS.264'
 Address 264/100 not authorized to create area 'BOOKMARK'
 Address 109/1 not authorized to create area 'NCRC13'
 Address 109/1 not authorized to create area 'EC13'
 Address 2440/5 not authorized to create area 'DAIRY_FARM'
 Address 233/15 not authorized to create area 'TAND2000'
 Address 3641/1 not authorized to create area 'FLA_COOKS'
Processing new EchoMail area ...
Creating new area 'NEWTFILES' from 1:396/1
Rewriting 'C:\Rbbs\Areas.Bbs'...


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From: HENRY MOORE                            Number: 939
  To: CHUCK GUSTAFSON                          Date: 05/16/94  9:47p
Subj: Re: Your program                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CG>I wonder what would happen if you set up a disk write cache (like Hyperdisk)
CG>about 2 Meg and set up for delayed writes.  That might prove interesting.

 I'm currently running a 2 or 3 meg (can't remember right off hand)
 hyperdisk cache with a 5 second write delay. Makes me feel better to
 see the little hard drive light blink less often. Haven't noticed any
 problems.

 * OLX 2.2 * Participation prolongs the agony


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From: HENRY MOORE                            Number: 940
  To: BILL CLARK                               Date: 05/16/94  9:56p
Subj: KU Band Data Receiver Def               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BC>I've not seen this AGC circuit oscillation problem with the KU band data
BC>receiver mentioned in PCSITES or PLANET_CONNECT, so am interested in whether
BC>the receiver I have is defective and Bruce was "blowing smoke", or if this i

 I had the same problem with the first receiver (KU) I had and have only
 had its replacement running for a couple of days but so far, it's
 running fine.

 I'm sure there are plenty of electronic types in this echo and am
 wondering if the schematic for the receiver can be made available to
 those that would like a shot at redesigning the agc circuit. I'd love
 to have a copy (or better yet a complete service manual) if for no
 other reason than to be able to work on the unit myself.


 * OLX 2.2 * All hope abandoned, ye who enter the Tavern.


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From: MICKEY FERGUSON                        Number: 941
  To: SID BALCOM                               Date: 05/17/94 12:31a
Subj: C-Band Receivers                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to Danny Daniel, Sid Balcom said:

SB>        I'm suspecting that the receivers are the same for
SB>both C-Band and Ku-Band. But, what I know about satellite
SB>stuff could be put in a thimble.

I believe that you are probably quite correct with the exception of an
internal daughterboard....you see, the frequency range sent in to the receiver
from the LNB is the same for either C or Ku, but the METHOD used to modulate
the signal is different.  Sorta like AM vs FM.

Mickey

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From: RF TOLLI                               Number: 942
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 05/10/94  5:38p
Subj: INBOUND BAD ECHOMAIL                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Boyd Goodin to All <=-

<More Addresses ad nauseam, deleted>
 BG> Address 151/1002 not authorized to create area 'ISDN'
 BG> Address 151/1002 not authorized to create area 'SCNET'
 BG> Address 348/501 not authorized to create area 'SWARE348'
 BG> Address 268/10 not authorized to create area 'MORESOME'
 BG> Address 268/10 not authorized to create area 'ISLE'
 BG> Address 268/10 not authorized to create area 'MORESOME'
 BG> Address 2300/90 not authorized to create area
 BG> 'ALT.FOLKLORE.COMPUTERS' Address 373/27 not authorized to create area
 BG> 'SYS_CONF' Address 238/300 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES'
 BG> Address 2612/10 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE'
 BG> Address 2612/10 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES'

Uh, Boyd?  With long lists of Addresses like this (and in PCSTATS), they'd be a

lot more likely to be checked correctly by the individual receivers if you'd
throw the list at a sort routine first.

-RFT-

... Running a BBS is like sex; You still have to support your mistakes!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.11
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From: MIKE LESTER                            Number: 943
  To: JEFF WARD                                Date: 05/16/94  9:38p
Subj: C-Band Receivers                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jeff Ward wrote in a message to Danny Daniel:

 > I have read in this echo of several having their ku band
 > receivers fail. I know one sysop who is on his third one. What
 > I want to know is if the c-band receivers are failing also.  If
 > you are running a c-band let me know. Also has anyone done any
 > comparisons on pros or cons between using c or the ku.

JW>  Well, I've been on the C-Band system since day one and have
JW> had the same receiver since then also. No problems here. As
JW> far as pros and cons, that would be difficult for me to make
JW> a proper judgement even though I have been in the satellite
JW> business for over 10 years. The mail and files coming in is
JW> the same and as long as you receive them, it would make no
JW> difference. The major difference will be in outside
JW> hardware, mainly a C-Band dish versus a Ku dish. That would
JW> be personal preference. Later!

   Just to continue the discussion, i opted for a C band, simply because
   should i ever get tired of the satellite feed, i could use it for
   TV reception, and there are more C band transmissions...i bought my
   unimesh dish locally, a 7 1/2 pole mounted, 20 feet in the sky to get
   above a local obstruction... i have clear sky to G3....works well,
   and i get very little trashed files....if any, without logging, i cant
   be sure...


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From: NATE CHASE                             Number: 944
  To: RAY SNOW                                 Date: 05/14/94  5:37a
Subj: Re-zipping                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

       In a Message to BOYD GOODIN
       on 01-01-94 (00:17) in Conference (458) PlanetConn
       regarding RE-ZIPPING

       RAY SNOW wrote...

 RS>   Suggestion: Transmit all mail net packets/files thru TWO full
 RS>   cycles. Then transmit the other "regular" files. Mail integrity
 RS>   is my *first* and *foremost* concern. I delete most of the junk
 RS>   files and my reasons for use of your PC services focuses around
 RS>   the RIME mail in super-crucial mode.


Ray,
        I'll agree with you. All of the rest other than RIME and USENET is
useless to me as well. I've been getting ALOT of flack from my users that the
mail is missing or days old. They want me to dump PC and go back to my old
hub... which I hate to do since I've invested all this time and expense. Hope
PC and Bonnie get on the ball before this all backfires on them. Once you get a
bad rep it's almost impossible to beat it...
        I personnaly wish them the best and want to see this thing succed.

                                                        Nate

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From: JON ANDERSON                           Number: 945
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 05/14/94  8:30a
Subj: Re: dongle and os/2                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> This is intolerable: that there should be knowledge available to some
> which PC might be aware of which at the same time is unavailable to other
> os/2'ers who've invested in PC equipment, etc , and who cannot run it...
BG>
BG>    I have heard this since the beginning but have yet to see any broken
BG>version of our software.
BG>
BG>...Boyd

Thanks for allaying any fears, Boyd ... Would you go so far as to advertise
here for any 'code input' from any person(s) who might have managed to solve
the OS/2 problem, without recriminations, of course?

My dish has sat here unusable for many months... am getting very antsey....
Have heard of a beta solution w/ new dongle... Could ya please assuage my fears
a bit??

tnx...

jon

___
 * MR/2 2.0 NR * Boston Gas BBS * 413-539-9834 * Fido 1:321/325 * Rime: 154
===
 * Boston Gas * 413-539-9834 * FidoNet:1:321/325 * Med/Sci/Engnr
 * PostLink(tm) v1.20 GAS (#154) : RelayNet(tm)

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From: JOHN PLEGGE                            Number: 946
  To: GUY VANDELL                              Date: 05/15/94  2:27a
Subj: Microcom/Spitfire/PC                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Guy,
   No, I haven't heard of any problems like that locally.  Currently in
Frontdoor 2.12, I'm using ~ATH0 and ~ATH1 for on-hook and off-hook
respectively.  You might try using DTR instead of ATH0; this seems to work on
some systems.

        --John
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From: JOHN PLEGGE                            Number: 947
  To: BOB WATSON                               Date: 05/15/94  2:28a
Subj: Microcom                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Bob,
   You can call Microcom at 1-800-822-8224.  I received the info on the modem
within 2 working days.

        --John
* SPITFIRE v3.4
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From: LARRY LABRANCHE                        Number: 948
  To: ROY TIMBERMAN                            Date: 05/16/94  2:42p
Subj: Re: International Genealogy A           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 13 May 94  16:30:11, Roy Timberman said this to Jack Williams.
RT> Do you do Fido style mail using FidoNet node numbers?  I don't do
RT> other zones... it is a waste of time, unnecessary and has proven
RT> to be undependable.  But would like to carry the echomail areas
RT> using FidoNet technology.
It is a fido compatible Net, and is very reliable, but it does use zone 440.
I belong to several nets, that use their own zone numbers, and it is very
needed because some sysops never get into fido.
-Larry +-)

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From: MURRAY PLETSCH                         Number: 949
  To: RANDY EDWARDS                            Date: 05/15/94  5:41p
Subj: Re-zipping                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >    This is interesting.  I'll be curious to see how Boyd and the
 > folks at PC handle this.  For myself, and, logically, people who
 > I do mail with, our first and foremost concern is the FidoNet
 > mail.  My system simply tosses the Rime mail into the bit
 > bucket.

 >    Boyd obviously has his hands full dealing with two groups who
 > in many ways have different priorities.  Sort of makes me glad
 > I'm not in his shoes... :-)

BINGO....it seems to me that 26,000 Fidonet nodes could possibly be a little
more of a priority than 1,400 Rime Nodes......:-)

Regards....Murray

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From: DENNIS POWERS                          Number: 950
  To: CHUCK GUSTAFSON                          Date: 05/16/94 11:50p
Subj: Your program                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Chuck!

15 May 94, Chuck Gustafson writes to Don Bosman:

 CG> I wonder what would happen if you set up a disk write cache (like
 CG> Hyperdisk) of about 2 Meg and set up for delayed writes.  That might prove
 CG> interesting.

I am running with Novell Lite's Cache set to 5 seconds delayed write on the
Satellite receive system and have no problems (that I didn't cause <G>).  The
hard drive is only active every 5 - 8 seconds now instead of the continous
activity when I was running without the cache.

Dennis

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From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY                        Number: 951
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 05/17/94  1:03a
Subj: Re: Inbound Bad Echomail                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BG>  Address 238/300 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES'

ACK!  Boyd, HELP!  What is this?

--jah

... 98% of Constipated People don't give a crap!
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From: LEE BONNIFIELD                         Number: 952
  To: CHUCK GUSTAFSON                          Date: 05/17/94  3:18a
Subj: disk cache                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 CG> I wonder what would happen if you set up a disk write cache (like
 CG> Hyperdisk) of about 2 Meg and set up for delayed writes.  That might
 CG> prove interesting.

I use Norton Utilities Version 7 and liked the result of turning on 1
meg in the Norton cache -- the hard disk light doesn't blink at all
for the first several hundred blocks of a file. There's a flurry of
activity whenever a file ends. I just watched it swallow a 800+ block
PCUSENET without blinking at all until the end. On a 1400+ block file,
it went to about block 950 without blinking, then it blinked once every
10-20 blocks until the end.

Here's the line in my AUTOEXEC.BAT.

C:\NORTUTIL\NCACHE2 /INSTALL /INI=C:\NORTUTIL\NCACHE.INI

I think I didn't even do any experimenting; the stock configuration
includes delayed writes and it worked fine.

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From: SID BALCOM                             Number: 953
  To: TIM FIERRO                               Date: 05/14/94  8:20p
Subj: Re-zipping                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <May 13 13:56>, Tim Fierro (1:138/[e-mail]) writes:
RE>  RS> is my *first* and *foremost* concern. I delete most of the junk
RE>  RS> files and my reasons for use of your PC services focuses around
RE>  RS> the RIME mail in super-crucial mode.
RE>
RE>    This is interesting.  I'll be curious to see how Boyd and the folks at
PC
RE> handle this.  For myself, and, logically, people who I do mail with, our
first
RE> and foremost concern is the FidoNet mail.  My system simply tosses the Rime
RE> mail into the bit bucket.

 TF>>Let RIME fit in the picture, not all of us bend to let them have
 TF>>their way.  There is plenty of room for them, but not at the
 TF>>expense of delaying the rest of us.  Besides, I like you just use
 TF>>the K:\NUL/ to send it right on it's way and never touch my
 TF>>drive. :)

        I don't see how they can get accurate mail delivery with updated
packets during the day. I'm seeing too many variables that keep delivery from
being reliable. For some reason, the satellite computer went to gibberish this
morning and I lost all of the mail files on the first pass. Second pass brought
in all but 4, and I figure to get them on the 3rd pass.
        Point is, if new mail were inserted for the second pass, and a bird
flew by; or there was a rainstorm; or someone walked in front of the dish; or
there was a power outage; or.. well, you get the point - wouldn't all of those
updates be lost?
        From what I've seen, so far, I believe that we need 3 full passes.

++ Sid ++





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From: SID BALCOM                             Number: 954
  To: DANNY DANIEL                             Date: 05/14/94  9:04p
Subj: C-Band Receivers                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <May 12 10:14>, Danny Daniel (1:19/166) writes:
 DD>>I have read in this echo of several having their ku band receivers fail.
 DD>>I know one sysop who is on his third one. What I want to know is if the
 DD>>c-band receivers are failing also.  If you are running a c-band let me
 DD>>know. Also has anyone done any comparisons on pros or cons between using
 DD>>c or the ku.
 DD>>I am waiting on a c-band to be delivered now but delivery has been
 DD>>pushed back another week.  I hope to be on the bird next week.
 DD>>                                    Thanks DD

        The wait is VERY frustrating! I know!

        I'm suspecting that the receivers are the same for both C-Band and
Ku-Band. But, what I know about satellite stuff could be put in a thimble.

        My Ku-band set-up has been running since April 19th. The only problem
was operator head-space.

        I urge EVERYone to write down the switch settings on the bottom of the
receiver. I carried mine out to the dish and bumped several of the switches,
and of course couldn't receive anything until Boyd straightened me out.
        Write down those settings that are working for you!

++ Sid ++




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From: MICKEY FERGUSON                        Number: 955
  To: CURTIS COLEY                             Date: 05/15/94  2:52a
Subj: Link test                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CC>  Just out of curiousity, I was wondering if you could help me out
CC>  with a few questions.  I am getting ready to set up a BBS on a
CC>  Novell 3.12 Network, and am ordering PC next week.  Could you
CC>  please recommend any software, mailtosser, or whatever that would
CC>  ease my transition into this.  I am an absolute novice when it
CC>  comes to getting my mail in this manner. I will be running
CC>  10 nodes under DesqView and or OS/2.  Thanks in advance..

Well, I was already running FrontDoor & GEcho.  Neither complained when we
 went to Novell.  If I tell you any more, I'll have to make it up as I go. ;)
 Because I'm certainly no expert.

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From: BILL WOLF                              Number: 956
  To: SID BALCOM                               Date: 05/16/94  7:27p
Subj: C-Band Receivers                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > In a message of <May 12 10:14>, Danny Daniel (1:19/
 > 166) writes:
 >  DD>>I have read in this echo of several having their ku band receivers
 > fail.
 >  DD>>I know one sysop who is on his third one. What I want to know is if the
 >

 > right down the switch
 > settings on the bottom of the receiver. I carried mine
 > out to the dish and bumped several of the switches,
 > and of course couldn't receive anything until Boyd
 > straightened me out.


I thought all data receiver units HAD the little DIP Switch Settings sticker on
the underside.   Infact I have an extra one that they mailed out with their
Christmas Card.  :-)

But, yes, they do come in handy, as I found that those dip switches don't take
much to move!


TakeCare!
Bill

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From: JIM DUNMYER                            Number: 957
  To: DANNY DANIEL                             Date: 05/15/94  9:29a
Subj: C-BAND RECEIVERS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Danny,
 My 'C' band setup has been online since late in September, 1993, and seems to
be operating flawlessly. Regarding pros and cons 'C' band vs. 'Ku' band, you've
no doubt read the main ones: 'C' band is a bit more immune to dropouts due to
"frog-strangler" rains. However, 'Ku' band dropouts are NOT all that common in
any event; it's nearly 6 of one, half-dozen of the other.

It is important with any electronic component to keep it cool. If it feels HOT,
it's in need of cooling. Also, it's been my experience and that of many others
that a good UPS is worth its weight in gold when it comes to system
reliability. Chances are real good that your power isn't nearly as good as you
might think it is, and many little problems with modems and your BBS go away
after connecting things to a decent UPS. One might help folks who have problems
with their PC receiver, too.

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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 958
  To: RANDY EDWARDS                            Date: 05/16/94  5:44p
Subj: Re: Is It Me????                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RE>   Of course not.  I own one and I know they're not loved by all.  But
RE> then again, I don't know of any modem that is...
RE> .
RE> Randy                                 BBS [phone] (V.FC)
RE> FidoNet 1:325/806 1:325/805           InterNet [e-mail]

Well either way I just ordered a couple to try out.
I just put the Zoom cenference on and it looks like there are a lot of problems
with them, at least thats what most of the messages are about..
One thing I have noticed right off is FD doesn't have an errorlevel for 28800?
Is that going to be a problem?

-Joe
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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 959
  To: OZZ NIXON                                Date: 05/16/94  5:45p
Subj: Re: Is It Me????                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ON>        You are joking right?

You tell me! I guess I am going to find out huh?

-Joe
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From: TIM FIERRO                             Number: 960
  To: SID BALCOM                               Date: 05/16/94  6:04p
Subj: Re-zipping                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SB> RE>  RS> is my *first* and *foremost* concern. I delete most of the junk
SB> RE>  RS> files and my reasons for use of your PC services focuses around
SB> RE>  RS> the RIME mail in super-crucial mode.

SB>  TF>>Let RIME fit in the picture, not all of us bend to let them have
SB>  TF>>their way.  There is plenty of room for them, but not at the
SB>  TF>>expense of delaying the rest of us.  Besides, I like you just use
SB>  TF>>the K:\NUL/ to send it right on it's way and never touch my
SB>  TF>>drive. :)
SB>
SB> I don't see how they can get accurate mail delivery with updated
SB> packets during the day. I'm seeing too many variables that keep
SB> delivery from being reliable.

If a network wants realtime like this, should PC offer it?

My question really is do all of the hubs in RIME currently call
their hubs upstream during the daytime and make multiple calls
per day?  I don't think so, especially for LD lines.  Now why
change it now that the bird is here?  Just send a large packet
daily or a few packets chopped up to a good size, but I don't
think the time is going to matter.  As long as you get the mail
via the bird, great!  If you want mail that is RIGHT NOW, then
don't go to the bird and keep the land line based hookup.



The Racer's Edge Network Delivery System * TRENDS! [phone]/939-7876

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From: GEORGE VANDERVORT                      Number: 961
  To: BILL CLARK                               Date: 05/17/94  7:29a
Subj: KU Band Data Receiver Deficiencies      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Bill!

Sunday May 15 1994 20:17, Bill Clark wrote to All:

 BC>
 BC> I've read with interest the comments regarding problems/failures of the KU
 BC> Band data receiver and can concur with problems related to heat buildup in
 BC> the receiver without use of a cooling fan, inexplicable errors in
 BC> receiving files when weather is not possibly a factor (and no apparent
 BC> reason to have block errors during receipt, i.e., no bird on LNB, no
 BC> airplane in the path between the receiver and satellite), etc. However, I
 BC> am more disturbed by design deficiencies in the Automatic Gain Circuitry
 BC> of the KU Band data receiver.  Here, if signal gets reduced by weather to
 BC> the point where the receiver alarms, if there is a lightning strike within
 BC> two to three miles of the data receiver/dish, or something else blocks
 BC> receipt of the signal from the satellite and the receiver alarms, when the
 BC> signal is restored, the AGC circuit in the receiver begins to oscillate.
 BC> The signal strength meter dips to zero and then quickly rises far upscale,
 BC> only to drop back to zero, then quickly rise, ad infinitum.  When the AGC
 BC> circuit is oscillating, no data gets received, or what data does get
 BC> received is trashed blocks.  The only way to stop oscillation of the AGC
 BC> circuit with the receiver here is to reduce the "meter sensitivity"
 BC> control all the way to zero and then slowly turn the control clockwise
 BC> until the meter is in the range for normal reception. Note that this AGC
 BC> oscillation can also be triggered here by a complete power loss, or by
 BC> unplugging the data receiver power supply, waiting until the capacitors in
 BC> the power supply drain off, and then plugging the power supply back in.
 BC> I've not mentioned the loss of AC power earlier, since my Planet Connect
 BC> receiver and computer are run off an uninterruptible power supply capable
 BC> of totally powering the system for up to one hour or longer with total
 BC> loss of AC power.

  To repeat my favorite tech support maxim:

"The Quality of the HELP you will receive is directly proportional
to the Quality of the Information you provide
in your help request/problem report..."

Sorry to hear your having problems with the KU-band setup...
You did not say what size KU-Dish you have? 2 ft, 3 ft, 4 ft?
and your geographical location may be another factor?

in the 5 months or so that I've been connected, I have not had those problems,
I set my sensitivity between 6 & 7, and so far, several power outages, thunder
storms, high winds up to 60 mph, and rain under 1 inch per hour has no
significant effect on my setup, it keeps on bringing in the mail to my 386dx40
with a 16550afn Uart, with very few CRC errors..

both power failures and a few times when we had heavy Rain of 3 inches per hour
or greater, do cause my receiver to go into Alarm, but as soon as the rain lets
up, or the power is restored, my receiver contenues to function, without any
adjustments from me...

and ever since I lined up my KU-Band dish, I have only had to re-adjust it
twice in five months...

in my setup, I have a 3 foot KU-Band dish on a Floor Mount with eight Cendar
blocks to hold in in place.. located about 50 feet from my computer, but on a
100 foot cable due to the routing of the cable..

I have a UPS for my two Computers, but no room to plug the PC-Receiver into
it.. so the Receiver is pluged into a good Surge protector..

as you have probable seen on the evening News, Central TEXAS has had a lot of
heavy rain, lightning, hail and tornadic winds in the last few weeks..

 BC> about a swapout of the receiver I have, and he indicated a swapout would
 BC> do no good, as the replacement would likely have the same identical
 BC> problem. I've not seen this AGC circuit oscillation problem with the KU
 BC> band data receiver mentioned in PCSITES or PLANET_CONNECT, so am
 BC> interested in whether the receiver I have is defective and Bruce was
 BC> "blowing smoke", or if this is a common problem.

I'm shure it's possible for different factors to be relivant to the geographica
area that you live in?

Something else comes to mind.. just a though?
where do you live in St Charles, MO??

Near an industrial park, where thers lots of line noise? how Clean and stable
is your electrical power feed into your hows, and or circirty in your house or
appartment...?

is there a Microwave Tower for celular Phone transmtions near you?


Regards,
George Vandervort
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From: GARY CRAIN                             Number: 962
  To: BOBBY TROTMAN                            Date: 05/17/94 12:23p
Subj: Lightning arrestor                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On May 15, 1994, at 23:08, Bobby Trotman of 1:369/32@fidonet wrote:

 BT> What you can do is loop the coax about 5 times at each end,
 BT> make loops about 8 inches round. To over simplify what this
 BT> does is to say Lightning can not go in circles.

  Thanks, now I can easily explain the 30 or 40 feet of cable coiled up in the
closet. ;-)  Before this I had to explain how I didn't have any connectors on
hand when the dish arrived, now I can explain how innovative I was in using the
excess to deter lightening strikes.

Gary

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From: BOYD GOODIN                            Number: 963
  To: ED BOSTON                                Date: 05/17/94 10:43p
Subj: Re: ILink                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> I have been in contact with my ILink feed, who also has Planet Connect,
> and he didn't know anything about it.  Is the feed now active or is it
> still being tested?

   I am not sure. As I stated please contact the Ilink Admin for information. I
have not been told by them if they are all done with thier testing.


....boyd

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From: FLOYD DRENNON                          Number: 964
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 05/17/94  4:29p
Subj: PCSTATS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Boyd,

16 May 94, 20:05, Boyd Goodin wrote to Floyd Drennon:

 >> There's been nothing in the PCStats area since last Wednesday.

 BG>    Working on it. Is it ok today?

Seems to be, thanks.



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From: CHUCK GUSTAFSON                        Number: 965
  To: LEE BONNIFIELD                           Date: 05/17/94  2:09p
Subj: Re: disk cache                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


On Tue 17-May-1994 03:18 thus spake Lee Bonnifield unto Chuck Gustafson:

 CG>> I wonder what would happen if you set up a disk write cache (like

 LB> I use Norton Utilities Version 7 and liked the result of turning on 1
 LB> meg in the Norton cache -- the hard disk light doesn't blink at all

Guess maybe I will dump the 286 setup (which works perfectly except for the
disk writing all the time) and use a 386.  No way to setup the cache on the
286, it only has room of 1 meg of DRAM  (an oldie but goodie).

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From: CHUCK GUSTAFSON                        Number: 966
  To: SID BALCOM                               Date: 05/17/94  2:13p
Subj: Re: Re-zipping                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


On Sat 14-May-1994 20:20 thus spake Sid Balcom unto Tim Fierro:

 SB> from being reliable. For some reason, the satellite computer went to
 SB> gibberish this morning and I lost all of the mail files on the first pass.
 SB> Second pass brought in all but 4, and I figure to get them on the 3rd

Happened here too.  Just walked into the room and saw what was going on.
Dropped out of the program, reloaded it and everything was OK.  Picked up the
missed packets during the next feed.    Hmmmmm?????

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From: GEORGE HANNAH                          Number: 967
  To: JAMES JOHNSON                            Date: 05/16/94  5:44p
Subj: Re: Pc & The Far East                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting James Johnson to All <=-

 JJ> I heard a rumor that Planet Connect is working on getting
 JJ> connectivity with the Far East.  I am the NEC for South Korea and the
 JJ> chance for getting relatively cheap echos into country is something I
 JJ> cannot let slip by! Has anyone heard this rumor and know if it has any
 JJ> basis in fact? Thanks much in advance!

 Hi James. I hope you don't mind me bugging you here. I've been
 trying to connect with Dong De Cheon city in S. Korea for months,
 and we can never get a decent connect. Do you call North America
 often? If so do you have any info that may assist?


... "Let's win this one and go home." - George A. Custer
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From: MICKEY FERGUSON                        Number: 968
  To: BILL CLARK                               Date: 05/18/94  1:10a
Subj: KU Band Data Receiver Deficiencies      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to All, Bill Clark said:

BC>if signal gets reduced by weather to the point where the
BC>receiver alarms, if there is a lightning strike within two to
BC>three miles of the data receiver/dish, or something else
BC>blocks receipt of the signal from the satellite and the
BC>receiver alarms, when the signal is restored, the AGC circuit
BC>in the receiver begins to oscillate.  The signal strength
BC>meter dips to zero and then quickly rises far upscale, only
BC>to drop back to zero, then quickly rise, ad infinitum.  When
BC>the AGC circuit is oscillating, no data gets received, or
BC>what data does get received is trashed blocks.  The only way

Mine has been on line since mid October and it has never done that.  Yours
_must_ be defective.  And, yes, mine is Ku.

Mickey

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From: ART MACK                               Number: 969
  To: DARYL TURNER                             Date: 05/17/94  9:18p
Subj: Anyone receiving files in MSDN file areas?  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Daryl!

In a message to Anyone <05/15/94> Daryl Turner wrote:

DT> Since I'm being asked about it locally, I figure I had better ask the
DT> 'higher-ups' about this.

DT> When we initially set up our Planet Connect system here, we were
DT> receiving in MSDN (Macintosh Software Distribution Network), but for
DT> the past few months we haven't seen anything.  Is there a problem here
DT> that we just aren't getting them, or is it higher up?



I was wondering the same here, I checked my setup and it seems OK but I
havent seen one MAC file yet. I would like to know whats going on.


                Art

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From: ART MACK                               Number: 970
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 05/17/94  9:23p
Subj: Re: U'NI Net                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Boyd!

In a message to Art Mack <05/16/94> Boyd Goodin wrote:

BG> > MB>   it's not almost 2 days old when we get it via the satellite?
BG>
BG> > Yes here here........good point......
BG>
BG>    Well first off I get them each morning around 1:15 am. This is a once
BG> feed and you will have to get them to update their mail just before the c


Thanks for the feedback Boyd, they changed hubs on me without letting me
know!

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From: CHUCK WARREN                           Number: 971
  To: MIKE NYMAN                               Date: 05/17/94  7:02a
Subj: Tossers for .BAG's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MN->Hi Chuck . I am real confused now. I do not run DV and never looked ar it.
MN->at 100% of the computers resorces I can not get this thing to run.

   Are you using EMM386 or something.  If so, try adding the NOEMS
   switch, and if you're using NOEMS, then remove it.

   Chuck


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From: PAUL CORMIER                           Number: 972
  To: ED BOSTON                                Date: 05/17/94 10:19a
Subj: ILink                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EB>Hi Boyd.  What is the status of ILink?  I have been seeing the packets
EB>showing up in the transmission, but I haven't heard anything about it

Do you know which compression method they use?  I wanted to sample a
packet to see if it's worth keeping or not.

.Paul

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From: PAUL CORMIER                           Number: 973
  To: BILL WOLF                                Date: 05/17/94  6:16p
Subj: C-Band Receivers                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> the underside.   Infact I have an extra one that they mailed out with
-> Christmas Card.  :-)

You got a Christmas card!!  Lucky you!!  :)

-> But, yes, they do come in handy, as I found that those dip switches d
-> much to move!

Yes, and the sticker is also handy when you have to align your dish once
and a while, you know exactly which switch to move...

.Paul


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From: GLENN VERMETTE                         Number: 974
  To: BILL CLARK                               Date: 05/17/94 11:18p
Subj: Re: KU Band Data Receiver Deficiencies  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*** Quoting Bill Clark to All ***

BC> I've not seen this AGC circuit oscillation problem with the KU
BC> band data receiver mentioned in PCSITES or PLANET_CONNECT, so am
BC> interested in whether the receiver I have is defective and Bruce
BC> was "blowing smoke", or if this is a common problem.  If the

Hi Bill,
     I have experience the exact same problem you describe, but only once, and
it was when I un[lugged the reciever to move it to another part of the house.
When I plugged it in, it began to oscillate as you describe.  I thought it
might be broke, but once I pulled the plug, waited for a few seconds and
plugged it back in, it worked fine.
     I have not had the ability to see if this does it when the receiver goes
into alarm, because it has only happened twice (both during heavy snowfalls)
and with the receiver being in my bedroom, I simply unplugged it to stop the
noise so I could go back to sleep.....but I see your concern.
     The only other "problem" I can say about the Ku receivers is that when you
plug them in (after being powered down) it sometimes takes up to 15 seconds for
the alarm to stop and for the siganl to get locked in....this has sent my blood
pressure up more than once, wondering if the receiver was ever going to lock
on, but it has.  Guess I'm just a little parinoid because this is my second
receiver...the first one only worked for about 2 minutes and then something
blew, leaving me with the ipression that they are all very, very fragile, which
may not be the case.
     Anyway, good to hear your story....glad to hear mine is acting "normal" so
to speak.

Glenn

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From: DAVE PETRUCCI                          Number: 975
  To: STEVE OLIVER                             Date: 05/17/94 12:02a
Subj: Re: Tossers for .BAG's\Gigo             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >Mike, the best BAG program out there is Jasons GIGO.  You can pick it up
 >from Planet Connects BBS.  We just registered it for use here.  IT works
 >great and fast.  It converts them to Fido style and then I use Fastecho
 >(also registered recently) to toss them.

Steve,
       How have you handled the FastEcho 900+ echo limit?
Dave P.

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From: MARK ADKINS                            Number: 976
  To: TIM FIERRO                               Date: 05/17/94  6:06a
Subj: Re-zipping                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Besides, I like you just use the K:\NUL/ to send it right on it's way
-> and never touch my drive. :)

Better look at your drive again. Check you !!!ST!!!.!!! file while RIME is
coming down then tell us all that it never touches your drive.

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From: BONNIE ANTHONY                         Number: 977
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 05/16/94 11:36a
Subj: Re-zipping                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BG Question. What makes RIME any more special than FIDO, or ROSENET, or
BGUNINET, or INTELECT? Your Admin wanted them to be added during

Nothing makes RIME "more special" Boyd.  I hope that all networks get the best
service they can possible get in the most timely manner they can get it in.  I
am pretty sure that is what everyone wants. Every network has its own "flavor"
and we at RIME just want to keep our "flavor," just as I am sure other networks
wish to keep their "flavor." Asking for dependable, reliable, timely service is
not asking for anything special, is it?

BGthe day. We did not (and still dont) have the uplink program BGsetup for
adding files on the fly. We do not uplink from here.

Is this something that you are going to improve in the future?  It is my
understanding that there are files that you already "add on the fly" several
times a day, so there must be some mechanism in place to do that with those
other files, no?

BGis hard to tell you "Your files will be going over at 8 am and BGat 8 pm for
any new files sent in during the day." Files were BGadded at 8 pm on the 11th
and only went over the sat at 1:30 am BGon the 12th. Did you get them? Not
everyone (in rime) that uses

why not?  why can't folks know within some time span, of say 30 mintues to an
hour, when specific mail files will be sent?  It is pretty standard from day to
day isn't it?  Also, it is my understanding that some files circulate for long
periods of time, i.e. some files are not removed on a daily basis.  What are
the constraints that prevent you from allowing a mail packet, regardless of
when it was added, to circulate for 24 hours before it is removed?  Or even 48
hours?  Can the receiving software recognize whether a file has been received
and not receive it again? Making the distribution of mail files "intelligently"
handled by the software would help all networks, no?  Nothing special there
right?

BGour system is receiving 24 hours a day. Has your admin taken BGthis into
concideration? Has your admin told you all what we

yes, we have taken it into consideration.  In fact, it was something that is
important to our network and has been from the start.  If the files would come
down in some organized fashion, within limits, folks could have their systems
"listening" at the correct times. No?  That might appeal to all folks on all
networks, no?

BGHas your admin told you how we bent over backwards to make BGchanges for them
and then they go and make the files available BGthru FTP on the internet? There
goes your security. We are

I didn't realize that you were all that knowledgeable about how RIME was using
the Internet and whether the files are secure or not.

Your information, even if it is based on something someone told you, is
inaccurate. The files going over the Internet are more secure than those coming
over the satellite; they are not going in the manner you may have imagined they
were.

In addition and talking about security, I understand, from reading Tom
Tcimipidis's message in here that the security on the donegal has been violated
and a gentleman from FIDO, who is not a member of RIME stated in this
conference:

"This is interesting.  I'll be curious to see how Boyd and the folks at PC
handle this.  For myself, and, logically, people who I do mail with, our first
and foremost concern is the FidoNet mail. My system simply tosses the Rime mail
into the bit bucket."

I wonder how he has access to the RIME mail to toss it out?  Could you help me
out here and explain to me how he has it in the first place or was that simply
an idle comment?  Is there security then or not?

In addition, you actually developed the security for ILink, so it was not
something you did, uniquely, just for us.

BGdoing our best here to make everything work for everybody. We

We also are doing our best to work within the limits imposed.

BGhave problems and we are working on fixing them. By doing BGthings to suite
RIME we have to be very carefully that we dont BGscrew things up for everone
else. I appreciate your ideas and BGwill follow up on them.

We would not want you to "suite <sic> RIME" and mess things up for others.  I
simply don't know where you got that idea.  Not from anything I said I hope.

However, we also would not want you to do things for others and mess us up
either.  I would hope you would always consider each and every network as
"special", unique and important and you would be striving to satisfy each and
everyone of them as much as you possibly could.

We all want to work together to make this cost effective for the sysops and to
enhance their BBSs with the bottom line being user satisfaction. To do that
most effectively, we have to know what the limits of the system is and you have
to know what we want from the system and we have to strike some grounds that
works for both ends.
===
 * The Running Board *Bethesda, Md* 301-229-5623/5342
 * PostLink(tm) v1.20 RUNNINGA (#2) : RelayNet(tm)

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From: SEBASTIAN ACOSTA                       Number: 978
  To: CHUCK GUSTAFSON                          Date: 05/18/94  7:41p
Subj: Re-zipping                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


On 17 May 94 02:13pm, Chuck Gustafson wrote to Sid Balcom:

 CG> On Sat 14-May-1994 20:20 thus spake Sid Balcom unto Tim Fierro:

 SB>> from being reliable. For some reason, the satellite computer went to
 SB>> gibberish this morning and I lost all of the mail files on the first
 CG> pass.
 SB>> Second pass brought in all but 4, and I figure to get them on the 3rd

 CG> Happened here too.  Just walked into the room and saw what was going on.
 CG> Dropped out of the program, reloaded it and everything was OK.  Picked
 CG> up the missed packets during the next feed.    Hmmmmm?????

So I wasn't the only one huh?  I don't recall this ever happening before,
I have a Ku receiver is that what you have?

Maybe that new software will take care of this.  When is it coming Johnny?

Internet: [e-mail]

... Ever wonder why Oprah spelled backwards is Harpo?
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From: JOHN MORANO                            Number: 979
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/16/94  6:22a
Subj: pcfu                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

05-07-94   PCFU199J     Fixed a bug in detecting DOS 6.21
                        (Thanks John Woodstock)

05-15-94   PCFU200B     Eliminated DOS version detection errors, this version
                        should run under any version of DOS. Sorry to admit
                        it but this little jewel cost a 2% speed decrease in
                        process time.

                        Fixed the bug that caused the program to crash if the
                        number of files being proccesed was very large. I had
                        a few reports on this one. The problem was being
                        caused by an array overflow, and the fix is just a
                        patch, If you process more then 500 files at a time
                        I won't be able to sort them in time and date order.
                        I will be working on a real fix for this one.

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From: DAVID MUENCH                           Number: 980
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/13/94 10:00p
Subj: ILink                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


What's the status on getting ILink up and working on PC?

David

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From: ALEX STUART                            Number: 981
  To: BILL WOLF                                Date: 05/13/94  1:24p
Subj: Tossers for .BAG's                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I've been running GIGO under 6.2, 7.03 for quite sometime,
 > and haven't had any problems whatsoever with it.   I am now

MN>I didn't want to alarm you Bill . I am running Lantastics AI
MN>as well . I do not know if this is a part of the problem. The
MN>thing is any software that I run with DOS4GW must be run in a

BW> Yeah, I don't know about running it under Lantastic.  I do
BW> know I've had good success with running it under Netware
BW> Lite..  I'd play around with QEMM, and make sure you enable EMS.
BW> That's all the other help I can offer you.. Try
BW> netmailing Jason about it.  He's as helpful as one can get!

        FWIW, I'm running GIGO under LANtastic without any problems at all.
Works well, does what it should, all's right with the world.

        -- Alex

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From: BOYD GOODIN                            Number: 982
  To: FLOYD DRENNON                            Date: 05/16/94  8:05p
Subj: Re: PCSTATS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> There's been nothing in the PCStats area since last Wednesday.

   Working on it. Is it ok today?


...Boyd

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From: BOYD GOODIN                            Number: 983
  To: ART MACK                                 Date: 05/16/94  8:09p
Subj: Re: U'NI Net                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> MB>   it's not almost 2 days old when we get it via the satellite?

> Yes here here........good point......

   Well first off I get them each morning around 1:15 am. This is a once a day
feed and you will have to get them to update their mail just before the call.

...Boyd

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From: ANTHONY GRILLO                         Number: 984
  To: ROY TIMBERMAN                            Date: 05/15/94  3:43p
Subj: Re: International Genealo               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hiya,

JW>>1:274/30. You will be issued an IGA_Net<tm> node number by return
 RT> netmail
JW>>and should/could be operating within a day.

 RT> Do you do Fido style mail using FidoNet node numbers?  I don't
 RT> do other zones... it is a waste of time, unnecessary and has
 RT> proven to be undependable.  But would like to carry the
 RT> echomail areas using FidoNet technology.

I agree, I would also carry it if it used Fido numbers.

Anthony Grillo
NET 272 NEC

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From: BOYD GOODIN                            Number: 985
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/16/94 11:38p
Subj: INBOUND BAD ECHOMAIL AREA               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Areafix v1.30, (C) 1988-92 by Greg Dawson & George Peace (1:270/101)
  Originally Written by Greg Dawson.

Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Netmail'...
Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Badecho'...
Reading 'C:\Rbbs\Areas.Bbs'...

 Address 157/200 not authorized to create area 'HUB157'
 Address 3663/102 not authorized to create area 'R18FILE'
 Address 109/1 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE'
 Address 109/1 not authorized to create area 'REGION13'
 Address 303/15 not authorized to create area 'NIGHT_SHIFT_CP'
 Address 351/444 not authorized to create area 'LOC.BUYSELL'
 Address 351/444 not authorized to create area 'SPORT-FISHING.WEST'
 Address 351/444 not authorized to create area 'LOC.BUYSELL'
 Address 351/444 not authorized to create area 'SPORT-FISHING.WEST'
 Address 351/444 not authorized to create area 'LOC.BUYSELL'
 Address 147/20 not authorized to create area 'METRO_BUYER'
 Address 303/15 not authorized to create area 'NIGHT_SHIFT_CP'
 Address 109/1 not authorized to create area 'NCRC13'
 Address 109/1 not authorized to create area 'REGION13'
 Address 121/38 not authorized to create area 'CHAT121'
 Address 104/1 not authorized to create area 'EF_HUB'
 Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'COLLECTABLES'
 Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'TFDN'
 Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'COLLECTABLES'
 Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'HORROR'
 Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'COLLECTABLES'
 Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'TRADEWARS'
 Address 348/501 not authorized to create area 'BBSNEWS'
 Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'VIRGINIA_BBS'
 Address 2621/15 not authorized to create area 'SCI.MED.AIDS'
 Address 2621/15 not authorized to create area 'BIONET.MOLBIO.HIV'
 Address 2621/15 not authorized to create area 'SCI.MED.AIDS'
 Address 2621/15 not authorized to create area 'BIONET.MOLBIO.HIV'
 Address 2621/15 not authorized to create area 'SCI.MED.AIDS'
 Address 2621/15 not authorized to create area 'BIONET.MOLBIO.HIV'
 Address 2621/15 not authorized to create area 'SCI.MED.AIDS'
 Address 270/611 not authorized to create area 'STORY_CHAT'
 Address 2230/100 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES'
 Address 2609/3 not authorized to create area 'REGION150'
 Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'R19COORD'
 Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'R19_CHAT'
 Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'R19COORD'
 Address 247/800 not authorized to create area 'RFP'
 Address 300/15 not authorized to create area 'MCAFEE'
 Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'A_MODERATOR'
 Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'A_CELEBNUDE'
 Address 271/320 not authorized to create area 'PLANET'
 Address 100/9999 not authorized to create area 'HN-OVR50'
 Address 0/0 not authorized to create area 'PGRMR'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NESYSOP'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'FORSALE'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NESYSOP'
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 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NEAMY_SALE'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NESYSOP'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'FORSALE'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NESYSOP'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NET324'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NESYSOP'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NET324'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'FORSALE'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NESYSOP'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NET324'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'FORSALE'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NET324'
 Address 268/10 not authorized to create area 'MORESOME'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NET324'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NESYSOP'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NET324'
 Address 138/103 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE'
 Address 264/100 not authorized to create area 'FILE_LISTS.264'
 Address 264/100 not authorized to create area 'BOOKMARK'
 Address 109/1 not authorized to create area 'NCRC13'
 Address 109/1 not authorized to create area 'EC13'
 Address 2440/5 not authorized to create area 'DAIRY_FARM'
 Address 233/15 not authorized to create area 'TAND2000'
 Address 3641/1 not authorized to create area 'FLA_COOKS'
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From: HENRY MOORE                            Number: 986
  To: CHUCK GUSTAFSON                          Date: 05/16/94  9:47p
Subj: Re: Your program                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CG>I wonder what would happen if you set up a disk write cache (like Hyperdisk)
CG>about 2 Meg and set up for delayed writes.  That might prove interesting.

 I'm currently running a 2 or 3 meg (can't remember right off hand)
 hyperdisk cache with a 5 second write delay. Makes me feel better to
 see the little hard drive light blink less often. Haven't noticed any
 problems.

 * OLX 2.2 * Participation prolongs the agony


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From: HENRY MOORE                            Number: 987
  To: BILL CLARK                               Date: 05/16/94  9:56p
Subj: KU Band Data Receiver Def               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BC>I've not seen this AGC circuit oscillation problem with the KU band data
BC>receiver mentioned in PCSITES or PLANET_CONNECT, so am interested in whether
BC>the receiver I have is defective and Bruce was "blowing smoke", or if this i

 I had the same problem with the first receiver (KU) I had and have only
 had its replacement running for a couple of days but so far, it's
 running fine.

 I'm sure there are plenty of electronic types in this echo and am
 wondering if the schematic for the receiver can be made available to
 those that would like a shot at redesigning the agc circuit. I'd love
 to have a copy (or better yet a complete service manual) if for no
 other reason than to be able to work on the unit myself.


 * OLX 2.2 * All hope abandoned, ye who enter the Tavern.


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From: MICKEY FERGUSON                        Number: 988
  To: SID BALCOM                               Date: 05/17/94 12:31a
Subj: C-Band Receivers                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to Danny Daniel, Sid Balcom said:

SB>        I'm suspecting that the receivers are the same for
SB>both C-Band and Ku-Band. But, what I know about satellite
SB>stuff could be put in a thimble.

I believe that you are probably quite correct with the exception of an
 internal daughterboard....you see, the frequency range sent in to the receiver
 from the LNB is the same for either C or Ku, but the METHOD used to modulate
 the signal is different.  Sorta like AM vs FM.

Mickey

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From: BOBBY TROTMAN                          Number: 989
  To: NATE CHASE                               Date: 05/15/94 11:08p
Subj: Lightning arrestor                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Nate!

01 May 94 13:06, Nate Chase wrote to All:

 NC>        In a Message to STEVE ADAIR
 NC>        on 04-28-94 (18:00) in Conference (458) PlanetConn
 NC>        regarding SAT COMPUTER SHOW

 NC>        JIM DUNMYER wrote...

 JD>> The coax cable can act as an antenna and pick up a pretty
 JD>> good voltage spike, even if the lightning hits only "close
 JD>> by". This spike can fry your receiver or LNB, or perhaps
 JD>> other connected equipment. They suggest that you install a
 JD>> lightning arrestor device in the coax; it can be bought from
 JD>> the Planet Connect folks or probably any local satellite
 JD>> dealer.


 NC> Boyd (et all),
 NC>         Whats the price of your Arrestor and is it guarenteed?


What you can do is loop the coax about 5 times at each end, make loops about 8
inches round. To over simplify what this does is to say Lightning can not go in
circles.

Best wishes,
Bobby

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From: RF TOLLI                               Number: 990
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 05/10/94  5:38p
Subj: INBOUND BAD ECHOMAIL                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Boyd Goodin to All <=-

<More Addresses ad nauseam, deleted>
 BG> Address 151/1002 not authorized to create area 'ISDN'
 BG> Address 151/1002 not authorized to create area 'SCNET'
 BG> Address 348/501 not authorized to create area 'SWARE348'
 BG> Address 268/10 not authorized to create area 'MORESOME'
 BG> Address 268/10 not authorized to create area 'ISLE'
 BG> Address 268/10 not authorized to create area 'MORESOME'
 BG> Address 2300/90 not authorized to create area
 BG> 'ALT.FOLKLORE.COMPUTERS' Address 373/27 not authorized to create area
 BG> 'SYS_CONF' Address 238/300 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES'
 BG> Address 2612/10 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE'
 BG> Address 2612/10 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES'

Uh, Boyd?  With long lists of Addresses like this (and in PCSTATS), they'd be a

lot more likely to be checked correctly by the individual receivers if you'd
throw the list at a sort routine first.

-RFT-

... Running a BBS is like sex; You still have to support your mistakes!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.11
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From: MIKE LESTER                            Number: 991
  To: JEFF WARD                                Date: 05/16/94  9:38p
Subj: C-Band Receivers                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jeff Ward wrote in a message to Danny Daniel:

 > I have read in this echo of several having their ku band
 > receivers fail. I know one sysop who is on his third one. What
 > I want to know is if the c-band receivers are failing also.  If
 > you are running a c-band let me know. Also has anyone done any
 > comparisons on pros or cons between using c or the ku.

JW>  Well, I've been on the C-Band system since day one and have
JW> had the same receiver since then also. No problems here. As
JW> far as pros and cons, that would be difficult for me to make
JW> a proper judgement even though I have been in the satellite
JW> business for over 10 years. The mail and files coming in is
JW> the same and as long as you receive them, it would make no
JW> difference. The major difference will be in outside
JW> hardware, mainly a C-Band dish versus a Ku dish. That would
JW> be personal preference. Later!

   Just to continue the discussion, i opted for a C band, simply because
   should i ever get tired of the satellite feed, i could use it for
   TV reception, and there are more C band transmissions...i bought my
   unimesh dish locally, a 7 1/2 pole mounted, 20 feet in the sky to get
   above a local obstruction... i have clear sky to G3....works well,
   and i get very little trashed files....if any, without logging, i cant
   be sure...


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From: SEBASTIAN ACOSTA                       Number: 992
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 05/18/94 10:29p
Subj: Dupes!                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Boyd, take a look at the path line of this message:

Bobby Trotman wrote in a message to Nate Chase:


 BT> Best wishes,
 BT> Bobby

 BT> --- GEcho 1.02+
 BT>  * Origin:  Bits and Pieces BBS  (1:369/32)
 BT> @PATH: 275/34 1 3615/50
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I am bringing this up because *I* feed net 369.  Someone at 275/34
is importing old mail back to you and possibly removing seen-by
lines.

Take care,
           Sebastian
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From: ED BOSTON                              Number: 993
  To: BOYD GOODIN                              Date: 05/17/94  3:52p
Subj: Re: ILink                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BG>    You will have to get in contact with the Ilink admin on this.

I have been in contact with my ILink feed, who also has Planet Connect,
and he didn't know anything about it.  Is the feed now active or is it
still being tested?
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From: BOYD GOODIN                            Number: 994
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/17/94 10:00p
Subj: INBOUND BAD ECHOMAIL AREAS              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Areafix v1.30, (C) 1988-92 by Greg Dawson & George Peace (1:270/101)
  Originally Written by Greg Dawson.

Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Netmail'...
Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Badecho'...
Reading 'C:\Rbbs\Areas.Bbs'...

 Address 2215/1 not authorized to create area 'CRIMP'
 Address 0/0 not authorized to create area 'PGRMR'
 Address 324/288 not authorized to create area 'NESYSOP'
 Address 2621/15 not authorized to create area 'AIDS.FILES'
 Address 229/2 not authorized to create area 'OS2WPS'
 Address 147/20 not authorized to create area 'METRO_BUYER'
 Address 229/15 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE'
 Address 351/444 not authorized to create area 'LOC.BUYSELL'
 Address 351/444 not authorized to create area 'SPORT-FISHING.WEST'
 Address 351/444 not authorized to create area 'VI_4SALE'
 Address 2621/15 not authorized to create area 'SCI.MED.AIDS'
 Address 2621/15 not authorized to create area 'BIONET.MOLBIO.HIV'
 Address 348/501 not authorized to create area 'SWARE348'
 Address 348/501 not authorized to create area 'BBSNEWS'
 Address 109/1 not authorized to create area 'EC13'
 Address 109/1 not authorized to create area 'REGION13'
 Address 109/1 not authorized to create area 'EC13'
 Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'VIRGINIA_BBS'
 Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'TW_MACINTOSH'
 Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'VIRGINIA_BBS'
 Address 151/157 not authorized to create area 'BACKBONE'
 Address 151/157 not authorized to create area 'LAUGH'
 Address 151/157 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES'
 Address 151/157 not authorized to create area 'BACKBONE'
 Address 151/157 not authorized to create area 'LAUGH'
 Address 151/157 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES'
 Address 326/409 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES'
 Address 2607/15 not authorized to create area 'REGION13'
 Address 270/611 not authorized to create area 'STORY_CHAT'
 Address 213/213 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE'
 Address 373/27 not authorized to create area 'SYS_CONF'
 Address 323/150 not authorized to create area 'NUT-HOUSE'
 Address 151/1002 not authorized to create area 'GENREPLY'
 Address 151/1002 not authorized to create area 'SCNET'
 Address 151/1002 not authorized to create area 'SC_SYSOP'
 Address 264/100 not authorized to create area 'BOOKMARK'
 Address 300/15 not authorized to create area 'MCAFEE'
 Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'R19COORD'
 Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'R19_CHAT'
 Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'R19COORD'
 Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'R19_CHAT'
 Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'R19COORD'
 Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE'
 Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES'
 Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE'
 Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'A_CELEBNUDE'
 Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'A_MODERATOR'
 Address 104/1 not authorized to create area 'SCANNER'
 Address 104/1 not authorized to create area 'EF_HUB'
 Address 104/1 not authorized to create area 'SCANNER'
 Address 3807/104 not authorized to create area '3807STAT'

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From: GEORGE VANDERVORT                      Number: 995
  To: SID BALCOM                               Date: 05/17/94  9:07p
Subj: C-Band Receivers                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Sid!

Saturday May 14 1994 21:04, Sid Balcom wrote to Danny Daniel:

 SB>
 SB>         The wait is VERY frustrating! I know!
 SB>
 SB>         I'm suspecting that the receivers are the same for both C-Band and
 SB> Ku-Band. But, what I know about satellite stuff could be put in a thimble.
 SB>
 SB>         My Ku-band set-up has been running since April 19th. The only
 SB> problem was operator head-space.
 SB>
 SB>         I urge EVERYone to write down the switch settings on the bottom of
 SB> the receiver. I carried mine out to the dish and bumped several of the
 SB> switches, and of course couldn't receive anything until Boyd straightened
 SB> me out.
 SB>         Write down those settings that are working for you!
 SB>
 SB> ++ Sid ++

That's good advise..

as luck would have it....
both my KU-Band Receiver and the Box the receiver came in, have a sticker on
them that has all the Correct Dip-switch setting listed on it.

Regards,
George Vandervort
 ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb
    InterNet: [e-mail]

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From: JIM DUNMYER                            Number: 996
  To: AL HEDSTROM                              Date: 05/17/94  5:05p
Subj: PC & DESQVIEW                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


 > I ran a six-line PCBoard setup w/ DV/X under DR-DOS v.6 on a single
 > 486-33 for about six months.  Liked the control of DV/X, especially

Might I ask why you stopped doing this? (you kinda imply that you no longer
operate in this fashion)

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From: MARTIN BELCKE                          Number: 997
  To: MURRAY PLETSCH                           Date: 05/17/94 11:24p
Subj: Re-zipping                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> BINGO....it seems to me that 26,000 Fidonet nodes could possibly be a
-> more of a priority than 1,400 Rime Nodes......:-)

Only if all 26,000 Fidonet nodes feed directly from PC, or if all 1400
RIME nodes feed direcctly from PC, etc....  What about the several
million people involved with Internet and the Usenet Newsgroups?  Using
your logic, they should be the first priority.....

"You can please all of the people some of the times and some of the
people all of the time, but you cannot please all of the people all of
the time."  A. Lincoln

--Martin--

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From: RANDY EDWARDS                          Number: 998
  To: BILL CLARK                               Date: 05/18/94  8:33a
Subj: KU Band Data Receiver Deficiencies      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On May 15 20:17 94, Bill Clark of 1:100/602.1 wrote:

 BC> I've not seen this AGC circuit oscillation problem with the KU band
 BC> data receiver mentioned in PCSITES or PLANET_CONNECT, so am interested
 BC> in whether the receiver I have is defective and Bruce was "blowing
 BC> smoke", or if this is a common problem.

   I've never heard of that one.  I've been runnng the KU-band IDC receiver for
about a month (it runs 24 hours a day) and haven't had any problems.  The only
time it makes any noise is if I turn it off -- when plugged back in it'll
squeal for a couple of seconds until it calms down and goes back to work.
.
Randy                                 BBS [phone] (V.FC)
FidoNet 1:325/806 1:325/805           InterNet [e-mail]

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From: RANDY EDWARDS                          Number: 999
  To: DARYL TURNER                             Date: 05/18/94  8:36a
Subj: Anyone receiving files in MSDN file areas?  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On May 15 22:12 94, Daryl Turner of 1:348/701 wrote:

 DT> When we initially set up our Planet Connect system here, we were
 DT> receiving in MSDN (Macintosh Software Distribution Network), but for
 DT> the past few months we haven't seen anything.  Is there a problem here
 DT> that we just aren't getting them, or is it higher up?

   I haven't gotten a single file in them since getting PC; so I've been
wondering the exact same thing (and so have my Mac users, who are starting to
get restless :-).
.
Randy                                 BBS [phone] (V.FC)
FidoNet 1:325/806 1:325/805           InterNet [e-mail]

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From: RANDY EDWARDS                          Number: 1000
  To: JOHN MORANO                              Date: 05/18/94  8:38a
Subj: pcfu                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On May 16 06:22 94, John Morano of 1:391/1180 wrote:

 JM> 05-15-94   PCFU200B     Eliminated DOS version detection errors, this
 JM> version should run under any version of DOS. Sorry to admit it but this
 JM> little jewel cost a 2% speed decrease in process time.

  Ahh, what's 2%!? :-)  Kudos John; your utility is a god-send.  I don't know
how I could get along without it.

   Will this version be sent out over the bird or should we fetch it land-line
from you (he asks hoping the former:-)?
.
Randy                                 BBS [phone] (V.FC)
FidoNet 1:325/806 1:325/805           InterNet [e-mail]

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From: RANDY EDWARDS                          Number: 1001
  To: JON ANDERSON                             Date: 05/18/94  8:40a
Subj: Re: dongle and os/2                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On May 14 08:30 94, Jon Anderson of 1:105/285 wrote:

 JA> Thanks for allaying any fears, Boyd ... Would you go so far as to
 JA> advertise here for any 'code input' from any person(s) who might have
 JA> managed to solve the OS/2 problem, without recriminations, of course?

   Gee, I sure hope we can get things running under OS/2.  I know that with
Linux soon to be released over the bird, I'd *love* to run PC on this machine
so I can use my now-running-PC machine to play with Linux!

   Does anyone know if the beta-test dongles work under OS/2 2.11?
.
Randy                                 BBS [phone] (V.FC)
FidoNet 1:325/806 1:325/805           InterNet [e-mail]

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From: RANDY EDWARDS                          Number: 1002
  To: MURRAY PLETSCH                           Date: 05/18/94  8:43a
Subj: Re-zipping                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On May 15 17:41 94, Murray Pletsch of 1:351/[e-mail] wrote:

 MP> BINGO....it seems to me that 26,000 Fidonet nodes could possibly be a
 MP> little more of a priority than 1,400 Rime Nodes......:-)

   I was going to add that but was trying to be tactful. <SEG:->
.
Randy                                 BBS [phone] (V.FC)
FidoNet 1:325/806 1:325/805           InterNet [e-mail]

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From: RANDY EDWARDS                          Number: 1003
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 05/18/94  5:03p
Subj: Re: Is It Me????                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

On May 16 17:44 94, Joe Hayes of 1:2290/70 wrote:

 JH> I just put the Zoom cenference on and it looks like there are a lot of
 JH> problems with them, at least thats what most of the messages are
 JH> about.. One thing I have noticed right off is FD doesn't have an
 JH> errorlevel for 28800? Is that going to be a problem?

   No, you can tell the Zoom to report back the modem-to-modem speed, or else
you can have it report back your locked port speed (e.g. 38400 or 57600 or
whatever).  It's flexible as far as what it reports when it connects.

   About the Zoom modem echo, from what I've seen there a lot of the users
don't have a clue about modems -- period.  Basic things like setup strings give
some people in the echo fits.  It's nothing like the caliber of users in, say,
the HST echo.

   I'd say that 70% of the people complaining there just don't have a clue as
how to set up a high speed modem and so have "operator" problems; about 20% are
victims of disinformation (such as people falsely reporting that the Zoom
supports Caller ID (it doesn't yet) or that people need to swap their ROMs out
for the ROM version that is only used in external modems, etc.).  I'd guess
about 5% of the people in the echos with problems are simply complaining about
not being able to get a full 28.8k connect on real dirty phone lines, leaving
5% or less with "real" problems.

   <trying to get back on topic:->  But since the ZOOM echo is on Planet
Connect, I'll see you there.
.
Randy                                 BBS [phone] (V.FC)
FidoNet 1:325/806 1:325/805           InterNet [e-mail]

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From: GARY CRAIN                             Number: 1004
  To: SID BALCOM                               Date: 05/18/94  6:34p
Subj: Re-zipping                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On May 14, 1994, at 20:20, Sid Balcom of 1:275/[e-mail] wrote:

 SB> I don't see how they can get accurate mail delivery with
 SB> updated packets during the day. I'm seeing too many variables

 SB> From what I've seen, so far, I believe that we need 3 full
 SB> passes.

  Now, here I go again.  I'm gonna ASS-U-ME that if Boyd and PC adds mail to
the upload list during the day that they are gonna keep track of it somehow and
deliver it at least 3 times, even if it carries over into the next days mail.
This is the only way that real time mail is gonna work.

Gary

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From: GARY CRAIN                             Number: 1005
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 05/18/94  6:38p
Subj: Re: Is It Me????                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

On May 16, 1994, at 17:44, Joe Hayes of 1:2290/70 wrote:

 JH> Well either way I just ordered a couple to try out.
 JH> I just put the Zoom cenference on and it looks like there are a

  They're 28.8 modems and they don't work out of the box like a 2400. :)  Once
you get them setup you're gonna be very pleased.  I've been running one for a
month now and couldn't be happier with a modem.  Now the phone lines are
another deal. ;-)

 JH> One thing I have noticed right off is FD doesn't have an
 JH> errorlevel for 28800? Is that going to be a problem?

  You're gonna have to upgrade to FD 2.12 to get the 28.8 connects to work
correctly.  Or you could just go ahead and get a really nice mailer, Intermail.

Gary

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From: JACK WILLIAMS                          Number: 1006
  To: JOHN HERRBACH                            Date: 05/17/94  8:15a
Subj: Re: Tossers for .BAG's                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Mike Nyman <05-15-94 12:21> John Herrbach wrote:

JH> Fred will toss them to *.PKT, and will also ignore conferences that

Please tell me the name of the program which will convert .BAG files to .PKT
files....and where I may obtain it.....

Regards, Jack

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From: RANDY EDWARDS                          Number: 1007
  To: BONNIE ANTHONY                           Date: 05/18/94  9:36p
Subj: Showing your ignorance                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BA> In addition and talking about security, I understand, from reading Tom
 BA> Tcimipidis's message in here that the security on the donegal has been
 BA> violated and a gentleman from FIDO, who is not a member of RIME stated
 BA> in this conference:

 BA> "This is interesting.  I'll be curious to see how Boyd and the folks at
 BA> PC handle this.  For myself, and, logically, people who I do mail with,
 BA> our first and foremost concern is the FidoNet mail. My system simply
 BA> tosses the Rime mail into the bit bucket."

   Well, you don't understand, do you?  Try reading what is written instead of
reading your conspiracy theories into what is there in text.  I'll ignore the
fact that you're talking about me in the third person when I'm right here in
the echo "with you," but I can't really ignore your reading words into what I
said.

   If you were more familiar with the way the Planet Connect software works,
all files are saved to disk before being deleted;  In computerese, something
that's deleted has been "thrown into the bit bucket."  Hence, "my system simply
tosses the Rime mail into the bit bucket."

   I have not broken the security of the Planet Connect software -- and I do
not like your implying that I did!

   You can rest assured that if I ever did break the Planet Connect software
the last damn thing I'd want from it would be the files from a two-bit
dictatorial mail network like Rime.
.
Randy                                 BBS [phone] (V.FC)
FidoNet 1:325/806 1:325/805           InterNet [e-mail]

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From: BOYD GOODIN                            Number: 1008
  To: BONNIE ANTHONY                           Date: 05/19/94  1:46a
Subj: Re: Re-zipping                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> am sure other networks wish to keep their "flavor." Asking for
> dependable, reliable, timely service is not asking for anything special,
> is it?

   I understand that, but you must also understand that there were networks on
here way before Rime came on line. That is were my alliance lies. Ask some of
the fido guys/gals in here what would happen if I sent a fidonet mail bundle
over at 8 pm in the evening. It is hard to tell someone that your new mail will
be going over the satellite at 8 pm when you dont know how much data you have
to send over the satellite. One day we can have as low as 40 megs going and the
next day as high as 60.

> Is this something that you are going to improve in the future?  It is my
> understanding that there are files that you already "add on the fly"
> several times a day, so there must be some mechanism in place to do that
> with those other files, no?

    These are the weather files which are produced at the uplink and copied
over the network to the outbound at certain times of the day. Since these files
are always the same name and extention it is quite simple to do. When you have
a file that has different names everyday then that is quite harder to do, as
then you do not have anything constant to work on.

> why not?  why can't folks know within some time span, of say 30 mintues
> to an hour, when specific mail files will be sent?  It is pretty standard

   Because there is no constant in the amount of data we send each day.

> recognize whether a file has been received and not receive it again?
> Making the distribution of mail files "intelligently" handled by the
> software would help all networks, no?  Nothing special there right?

   Like it was nothing special to added the encryption for the rime files
right? Also there are a couple of good utilities that were written by a few of
our users that handle the file dupes. 

> yes, we have taken it into consideration.  In fact, it was something that
> is important to our network and has been from the start.  If the files

   Well then when a set of files only went out at 1:30 am how come the next day
I got calls from Rime users asking why it was this way. When I told them they
would have to leave there system on 24 hours a day just to get Rime mail they
were quite upset. Did you take into concideration those out there that use
thier dish for both data and tv?  

> would come down in some organized fashion, within limits, folks could
> have their systems "listening" at the correct times. No?  That might
> appeal to all folks on all networks, no?

    If we had 48 megs going over every day, day in, day out, then it would be
no problem. We could say "Well Rime will go over at 8:45 am and 8:45 pm." Since
we move about 6 megs and hour you can judge it. But what if one day it is 35
megs and the next 56? Hard to put a time frame now on it.

> I didn't realize that you were all that knowledgeable about how RIME was
> using the Internet and whether the files are secure or not.

   Well I know a bit about Internet and how it functions.

> Your information, even if it is based on something someone told you, is
> inaccurate. The files going over the Internet are more secure than those
> coming over the satellite; they are not going in the manner you may have
> imagined they were.

    Do tell! Please Bonnie, you are not talking to someone who knows nothing
about the internet.

> I wonder how he has access to the RIME mail to toss it out?  Could you
> help me out here and explain to me how he has it in the first place or
> was that simply an idle comment?  Is there security then or not?

   I suggest that you do not quote any of the boys in here if you do not have
any understanding of the terms or sayings that are used on here. I believe the
gentleman that you quoted has replied to you about this. Also on the DONGLE. I
have heard rumours since day one that the LOCK has beeen broken. I have yet to
see a broken copy. You know, rumours are a great conversational piece.

> In addition, you actually developed the security for ILink, so it was not
> something you did, uniquely, just for us.

   I think you should take one step back and refresh your memory real good. We
were not even out of beta when you were contacted to allow us to send Rime over
the satellite. We got back from One-bbs-con and there was a message on the
answering machine from you stating that RIME can be sent but changes to Rime's
software had to be developed first. We said ok. Ilink was not in the picture as
of yet. Your memory getting better? Good. We also talked about a secure means
and we started working on encryption which led to the 02/16 release of the
software. Just to set the record straight, Ilink is now going over the
satellite but are not using our encryption format. There have thier own type
and goes over the satellite in the clear.

> We also are doing our best to work within the limits imposed.

   Satellite delivery will never be like the landbase system.

> We would not want you to "suite <sic> RIME" and mess things up for
> others.  I simply don't know where you got that idea.  Not from anything
> I said I hope.

    Remember the phone conversation we had when I told you how the system
works? Remember how upset you got when I told you that things are setup for a
once a day drop-off to the satellite? Remember how upset I got when you told me
that Joe said that it could be added at anytime to the cycle? I got quite upset
because I know that Joe would never say that to anyone. So Joe said we will try
to add it after each cycle. And that is what we are doing. So we did do
something to "suite <sic> RIME". We were lucky that it did not cause and major
problems.

> However, we also would not want you to do things for others and mess us
> up either.  I would hope you would always consider each and every network
> as "special", un